TOPIC: Would 10% be pointless for R1 on 4.25" girth?

I read about 3-4 threads of bad 30% results & fluid collection under the shaft, etc...

I have been through 4 years of hellish stuff with my Dick (see progress report) - so I think maybe 30% is not the best risk / reward for me...

Then again, people say the first round gives the most gains and you can get things fixed in R2. I just don\'t know what to think... I still have a de-gloving scar (not sure how that will affect things) and even some pain left from my Peyronie\'s surgery. I retract a LOT - 3\" roughly... which never seems to go well for guys. It seems like 30% is adding a lot of risk - which is something I don\'t really want to deal with. Honzee\'s results were awesome at 30% but he had the last suppply of linnea safe...and his penis has been worked on through PE for a long time.

If the difference between 30 and 10 is truly 0.3\" on average...but triple the complications, I really don\'t think 30 is for me... but then a 4.75\" result is kinda lame for all this travel and time off and money, etc... agh this decision is crazy.

Also, I can\'t figure out if my skin is tight or loose or if my circ scar is low or high - I don\'t know how people make these assessments really. I think my skin is actually kinda loose bc my internal penile structures have shrunk (the tunica itself won\'t expand fully due to Peyronies) - but the outer skin is still the size it was from my original penis before Peyronies... and loose skin is usually a problem with the 30% crowd.

The date is coming up - time flies. I\'ll post things later in my log... I need to take viagra for all the \"100% comparisons\" due to bad EQ, and my new insurance doesn\'t cover it - so I hate wasting it for photos only.

What if I asked for 30% but just lower CCs? Or should I just insist on 10% due to all the crap i\'ve had to deal with for the last 4 years?

I\'d rather be disappointed with a small gain yet live to fight another day as it were, than have a big gain but deformed penis. Personally I\'m not at all convinced that round 1 problems can be corrected with a second round. Sometimes they can, but frequently we see guys going back for round after round trying to improve the aesthetics.

I think 10cc of 30% could be an option. I know a couple of the Brazilian Dr\'s use that approach to avoid aesthetic issues. But personally I think Dr C is far too gung ho in his approach. In my opinion slow and steady wins the race. You\'ll probably gain 1 cm from 1 round of 10cc 30%. Two months later you can go back and get another CM.

Yeah, I agree with you. I\'ve seen similar things in my reading here in the last 6 mos - and I know you\'ve been around much longer, so thanks for posting that.

Also, there\'s the issue of less trauma, fewer entry points, less swelling, and thus less migration potential, I think... And, once it is bigger - there will be less retraction at R2 (even if R2 still does need a touch up).

What\'s your take on a \"full round\" of 10% like in those spreadsheets on here? Vs. a 10cc round of 30%?

Do you think Dr. C will only do 10ccs? He\'s so used to putting in 20~ that I wonder if he\'s not experienced w/ 10 and it might still be uneven...or if he\'ll somehow convince me that it won\'t be enough or worth my trip + $2500.

On Flaccid stretch, I\'m like 6\" but Erect maybe 5.5 these days... hard to tell 100% cuz of bad EQ. So, I don\'t think I can be filled up with 20cc 30% - especially given that I retract too...unless I literally stay up for 2 days holding my penis (these extenders and stuff don\'t work perfectly - and the guy who wore the magnetic extender seemed to have the most problems anyway - forgot his screen name now).

Regardless of the number of CCs received, it is imperative that Turtling be eliminated as much as possible for the first 36-48 hours afterwards. My opinion, anyway.
And I do not think you would have to literally stay up watching it, but I probably wouldn\'t go more than a couple of hours without stretching, massaging, etc. You said that you have some Viagra. I think that it would be smart to take that afterwards to assist you.

And, yes, he is used to doing 20cc injections, but I believe he started with much smaller quantities and it grew from there. So I think he would be comfortable giving you a smaller amount of product.

Thanks Briceb...yea I still have both Cialis and viagra from older prescriptions. My new insurance won\'t pay for any of it. My uro said I can take Cialis AND viagra together if I am having \"one of those nights\" - bc viagra makes it much harder, in my experience. But, I don\'t want to keep taking these pills cuz they give me bad headaches. Also - as far as retraction goes, I agree from what I\'ve seen here. So, I have the noose-style stretcher and the suction cup esl40 which falls off...and both will touch the glans ... I haven\'t gotten any replies in the \"how to prevent retraction\" thread I started but I am really looking for advice on it.

Oh - and I have a high circumcision... my urologist made a comment that they didn\'t do my surgery through my original circ scar because it is too low. My circumcision removed shaft skin mostly, not as much foreskin. I don\'t think it\'s tight, but it is \"high\" per this website: www.circlist.com/styles/page1.html

So, I turtle AND have a high circ scar... both not good for this procedure. There\'s no way I can get a high volume of 30%.

If you have some Cialis, I think that would be a better idea than Viagra for post procedure. I would suggest not using a noose style extender while the PMMA is still setting. I believe this would possibly effect the positioning of the PMMA in and adverse manner, possible causing an indentation where the noose rests. Depending on how the els40 fits you, I think this would be a better option. I don\'t really know about the silicone sleeve that others have but that may be a decent option. Otherwise, physically stretching with your hand is always an option.

If you are nervous that the physical characteristics of your penis would lend itself to the possibility of increased complications with high volume of 30%, then go with your gut. You can certainly get good Girth gains from 10%.