TOPIC: Dr. Elist new website (unintended honesty)

sun1 wrote:
Do you know if he has ever been sued over what he does or if their is a class action suit going?

He has been threatened to be sued but he settled out of court and paid back some victims or replaced the implant for free. So far there is no evidence of a class action.

Please tell us your story.

I design websites / I\'m a blogger... SEO (Search Engine Optimization) wise it wouldn\'t be hard to rank for \"PMMA penis enlargement\" my PMMA blog back in the day was consistently near the top of google rankings for PMMA penis enlargement (especially due to google image search).

Looking at his site, yes it\'s sleek... Here\'s some info for those interested:

Platform: Wordpress
Theme: \"Avada\" by themefusion: themeforest.net/item/avada-responsive-mu...z_author=ThemeFusion ($55) <- Though his designer has modified it a little and made it worse in my opinion.
Yoast SEO plugin among others.


I could go on about sites linking in etc but why bother. The point I am trying to make here is that he has obviously paid a web designer to have a search engine optimized site. In which he is purposely trying to rank high for stuff like PMMA to put it down and to make his stuff look great. (All websites for companies should try to out-rank their competition... but I\'d say this is a blackhat marketing method since he doesn\'t even do PMMA and the information he provides is quite damning to PMMA and only meant to embellish his fucked up procedure).

edit: I doubt he got themefusion to build the site... its pretty common practice now days for site designers to just buy themes for wordpress or joomla and charge customers for a site saying they designed it. In reality they just customize it a bit. It\'s not a bad thing... The customer gets a far more powerful site that is better optimized for a shit-ton cheaper than a hand crafted / hand coded site.

edit 2: That being said... yes it only costs $55 for that theme... if you get hosting somewhere for $60 /yr and that theme = $115 is all it would cost for that site... IF you are willing to put in the man hours to put all the content in and design logos and graphics and stuff... I\'m curious as to how much he paid... part of me hopes he does see this because I bet he\'s easily sank $5000 - $10,000+ in it (likely more) if the designer helped with the content. The designer even used the default colour palette.

Do you also find it interesting that another reason he gives for not using PMMA is capsule formation?

Yet at the same time, he pushes this as a benefit of his implant.

And you are correct, SO. His implant is NOT FDA approved for penis enlargement, yet he will gladly tell anyone who will listen that it is.

Why would a guy from Brazil go to him? Also there is no signs of any filler in the first photo. It looks as if he\'s got a skin adhesion following the removal of something. In fact the deformity is incredibly similar to that which Lastime presented following removal of his Elist implant. See the similar crease in the skin where it became adhesed to the shaft:

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/sca...from-implant-5373953

I\'ve never heard of PMMA being injected into the scrotum. I know they do it with silicone.

I honestly would be absolutely stunned if either of those photos are of genuine PMMA patients.

If Elist wants I could provide links to photos of genuine bad PMMA results. In fact he only has to search this site as there have photos in some of the PMMA articles posted.

And for those who are new to the phallo-scene, you missed out on the days when shills would post about their amazing operation with Dr. Elist only to be busted as a shill! None of them showed any pictures, would disappear, or would be flat-out caught making multiple accounts to act as multiple people. The good Doctor also did this on a now-defunct website called MyNewSize, where his cronies ran the show and if you said anything critical, your comments would get deleted (The corruption of that site lead to the creation of this forum for those who don\'t know). I\'m only mentioning this to paint a bigger picture. The Doctor seems to work in cycles. He pushes some new marketing campaign, and when it fails he goes back to the drawing board, only to come up with another idea to push his $10,000 procedure. He did it with MyNewSize, then his shills came here (which we dealt with swiftly), and then he started using Email Newsletters to enter a raffle to win discounted surgeries (maybe even free ones, I can\'t remember), and now he\'s created a new sleeker website and has done supposed patient interviews on Youtube. Curious to know what\'s next, I\'ll be sure to have my popcorn ready!

@smalljay

What\'s amusing (and almost impressive, though it was clearly done out of desperation) is the extent he went to break down PMMA\'s potential issues. But I suppose you have to be well-versed in PMMA in order to find ways to exaggerate or (leave out) information while trying to make it appear credible & legit.

A good example is how the Doctor cites the lack of FDA approval for PMMA\'s use in soft-tissue augmentation. This is presumably referring to Artefill, which FDA\'s approval cites the correction/smoothening of the nasolabial folds of the face. But if we wish to use this argument, we must point out that the Doctor\'s own implant isn\'t FDA approved for penis enlargement either, but instead for the cosmetic correction of soft tissue deformities. One of his own talking points against PMMA can be used against his implant!

But he\'s clever. Making a page that seems to discuss PMMA in a comprehensive manner citing studies and such gives the appearance of legitimacy to the unfamiliar reader. And for this reason, it\'s pretty messed up!

Also, if it wasn\'t already apparent, the majority of his would-be patients are opting to go over the border. He\'s trying to give his failed implant some renewed legitimacy but I\'m not sure why he doesn\'t realize that it is almost impossible to do if the product doesn\'t work! I\'ve noticed online with his new website, his (embarrassingly silly) Youtube videos of supposed patients, and his continued release of newsletters with raffles & prizes that he\'s hellbent on being the world\'s best phallo-doc, despite there being plenty of work for him elsewhere in Urology!

I think you are right, SO. He definitely has eyes and ears here.

On a more serious note, though, since so many people have been harmed by him, I would urge anyone who has had a bad experience to visit these two websites:

www.mbc.ca.gov/consumer/complaint_info.html

and

www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/HowToReport/default.htm


If enough people who have been harmed complain, something can be done to stop him.

briceb wrote: @DC
I just wanted to check and see how long it took him to notice.
I guess in hindsight I should have left it alone and not brought it to anyone\'s attention. But it was too good not to share!

I think it was a good idea. It not only served to give us laughs (no humor intended to any former patients, but rather, the good Doctor\'s unintended honesty), but it has confirmed (with near certainty) that he has someone scanning the forum frequently for whatever reason.

@DC
I just wanted to check and see how long it took him to notice.
I guess in hindsight I should have left it alone and not brought it to anyone\'s attention. But it was too good not to share!

lol so briceb do u check his website everytime? i wish science would just hurry up and make 3 inches in length surgery possible without any retraction risks or weights afterwards. i mean there has to be another way other than lig cut. doctors have to discover another way sooner or later.. rather sooner than later. everybody if u feel me say hallelujah

That was pretty quick... I wonder if he (or someone he\'s hired) lurks here on a daily basis. Actually it wouldn\'t surprise me one bit, after all, he did once employ a shilling operation a while ago.

Well, it looks like he caught wind of the chart and has changed it.
Here is the new one...

That is hilarious! I wonder if he will fire the person in charge of making it...for being honest.

One has to wonder if that\'s a typo, or if there was some court settlement/ruling that required him to state the possibility of deformity for future patients for liability reasons (as in a recent court case we\'re not aware of?). But if it is a typo (likely scenario), it\'s hilarious! What would be even more hilarious is if he finds out about the typo here on these forums first before actually seeing it on his own site

While all of it is tragically misleading, I think the \"length\" perk is the most audacious.

Great spot Bricep!

He lies on virtually every point on that chart. FDA approved! Patented! Permanent! 2 to 3 days recovery! Achieve length! No retraction! It\'s simply unbelievable.