TOPIC: Looking Into Girth Surgery, Any Reliable Doctors In the Northeast?

Alucard90 wrote: hoddle,

The problem is that I plan on going to medical school, so I won\'t have a decent job for another five years. You\'re telling me there\'s no doctor that\'s reliable enough to not have to seriously consider post-op reconstruction costs? Even that Caravantes guy isn\'t that good?

I\'m not horribly insecure about my size - I know my length is at the high end of average, and I guess my Girth is acceptable, but for some reason I feel the need to have a big Dick. I feel like that give me such a good confidence and ego safety net. I kind of look at it as the male physical equivalent of having a high IQ - sure, there\'s a lot more to being successful than having a large one, but it\'s still impressive and makes the person who has it feel pretty good.

By the way, do you know whether or not the penile traction device has any effect on Girth? I\'ve read some papers that say none at all and others that mention a modest increase.

No, there isn\'t. This is why hardly any Dr\'s do these surgeries. The issue isn\'t the Dr\'s themselves as there are thousands of good surgeons in the US. The surgeries themselves aren\'t particularly difficult. Plastic surgeons and Urologist all over the US perform much more complicated surgeries on a daily basis. Yet of these surgeons only a handful do penis enlargements and it\'s because the complication rate is so high and satisfaction rate so low. For example, rhinoplasty is a very difficult procedure that takes a lot of skill and is easy to do wrong. Yet thousands of Dr\'s do them, as the if they do their job rate, the success rate is high. Yet even if a PE surgery is performed perfectly the satisfaction rate is still low, as so many of the problems that occur are out of the surgeons hands. The main trouble is that the penis is a dynamic organ, so finding a good graft material has so far not been successful.

Dr Casavantes doesn\'t do PE surgery. He injects PMMA, which is something different. It\'s very popular because it avoids so many of the pitfalls of surgery, is permanent and cheap. But it\'s not without risks and we don\'t know what the complication rates will be over the longer term. Therefore anyone who isn\'t \"horribly insecure\" about their size should consider it at the moment.

As I said before, your best bet is to be patient. Even if you don\'t ever have an enlargement, I can assure that the vast majority of women will be far more attracted to a Dr, than they will a guy with a big penis. Just the fact you are at med school will be very attractive to most young girls.

hoddle,

The problem is that I plan on going to medical school, so I won\'t have a decent job for another five years. You\'re telling me there\'s no doctor that\'s reliable enough to not have to seriously consider post-op reconstruction costs? Even that Caravantes guy isn\'t that good?

I\'m not horribly insecure about my size - I know my length is at the high end of average, and I guess my Girth is acceptable, but for some reason I feel the need to have a big Dick. I feel like that give me such a good confidence and ego safety net. I kind of look at it as the male physical equivalent of having a high IQ - sure, there\'s a lot more to being successful than having a large one, but it\'s still impressive and makes the person who has it feel pretty good.

By the way, do you know whether or not the penile traction device has any effect on Girth? I\'ve read some papers that say none at all and others that mention a modest increase.

Unless you have money I wouldn\'t have surgery. The complication rate is crazy high. So you need to be prepared to pay for reconstruction if necessary. In the last 4 years alone I\'ve spent at least $30,000 and probably more, just trying to correct a poorly done PE surgery. We have a member who had surgery with Solomon and had to go back and have the Belloderm removed. He was charged for this and a subsequent surgery. Then there are travel and accommodation expense. On top of that, it\'s highly unlikely you\'d get the gains you want. You\'ll be lucky to still have a 0.5\" gain two years post op. If you read about our members who have had allografts, some will reports decent long term gains, but the majority report continual absorption and some have reported the graft shrinking and causing the penis to bend. I spoke on the telephone to one of our members (pmmapossibly) last week and he\'s seen two surgeons and both are reluctant to try and fix his problems caused by a contacting belloderm graft.

I know it doesn\'t seem like it now, but you are still so young. It must feel as if life is passing you by and you just want to get this issue dealt with, but honestly patience is your best friend. Wait a couple of years, until you\'ve left college and have a decent job. Then start looking at options. So many of our members would give anything to be 25 again as it seems so damn young. You\'ve still got a couple of years until you get there.

There are many studies about traction devices, they all show length increase but only a few of them report Girth increase and they are not really convincing from a scientific standpoint. There is definitely volume increase though. My results so far are a quarter of an Inch but I have been travelling a lot and I figured out wearing or even carrying the device in an airport/plane is not something you want to do because often times I travel only with cabin luggage.
The andropenis is not a bad device, it just hurts like hell. Unlike vacuum based devices. But the mitogenesis process is the same.

Regarding PMMA, it is the long term effects we are talking about. If your Dick falls off in ten years from now, how will you feel ? I dont think it is going to happen, particularly for those who had the operation with Dr C. who has a proven track record as Dermatologist, but you are still a guinea pig.

PMMA starts a strong immune response, so it is clearly not a neutral product. In bone tissue, Necrosis has been reported as well as chronic inflammation. Circulatory and respiratory disturbances have been observed in patients receiving hip bone PMMA, possibly through biological degradation of the MMA monomer. All this was observed in orthopedy, which is different from cosmetic fillers, but what I am saying is that although PMMA is biocompatible and chemically inert, it is not neutral in your body. I was a long time lurker on the previous version of the forum and this one as well, and initially I thought I\'d jump on a plane to Tijuana. But I prefer to think twice. The book \"Facial Rejuvenation with fillers\" by Steven Cohen and Trevor Born speaks highly of PMMA, and Cohen did a 5 year follow-up which showed a 90% satisfaction for 82 patients treated with PMMA. However, they also report 8,3% mild treatment related issues (of which 80% were lumpiness), 1.4% moderate issues and 0,7% severe issues, for example a subject presenting \"a lumpy inflamed Nodule in each of the nasolabial folds approximately 5 years after implantation\". Tell you what, I dont want intralesional steroid therapy in my penis.

I am glad that things went well for our fellow forum members, and it seems to be the best solution particularly when using 10% concentration to keep satisfactory aesthetic results. Perhaps it is a poor choice from me, but still I will wait another year or two before I go to Mexico.