TOPIC: Temporary fillers

I know 2 guys who have had very successful FFT. Every time I see photos like this I find it very tempting to have another go.

hoddle10 wrote:
Basically he\'s just talking about the difference between Macrolane and Restylane. Macrolane is used for the body and comes in bigger syringes, while Restylane is a facial filler, much more expensive and come is 1ml syringes.

I still don\'t understand why he is half the price of the Dr in Nice, who also uses Macrolane.

When researching did you find any guys on French forums who had had any PE surgery?

Can\'t tell you concerning the price.

I haven\'t searched much french testimonies but tried again tonight and found a big thread, mostly about fat injection (surgery), I don\'t know if you count it into temporary fillers. Here it is:

forum.doctissimo.fr/forme-beaute/chirurg...s-sujet_152712_1.htm

They talk a bit about hyaludronic acid, only saying there are testimonies from people unhappy about it... The post is on page 20 by Alex932.
If I find the threads in question I\'ll post links here.

If you need translation google can\'t provide, just tell me.

Sorry, can\'t get translate to work on the page for some reason. What do they say about fat injection?

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Interested.. Have u heard back of the doc.
How many here would be interested in eadiesse?

In praise of Hyaluronic Acid: apparently, not even by insane self-administration of the product you can royally fuck up for life: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3483579/?report=classic

I found one of the negative reports, I post it directly here, traduced in english (by google), then you can judge better (it\'s not precised if macrolane or not):

Hi, I am a week ago, it is painless Erect against the effects are not top, just after the tassel on the left I have a residue that make a ball of acid, it\'s said to not hesitate to crush \"with the thumb and forefinger\" I tried but it did not work,acid is still malleable for about 4weeks It says that you can resume sexual activity after 48 hours but I do not believe it, the acid is not fixed, they especially recommended to avoid baths, sauna, pool, steam room, and sex not before the 5th day \"little booklet provided after injection (they finally against-say). the general appearance Flaccid is pretty well.Negative, it is soft to the touch, to this day, I hesitate to have this acid removed .. I do not know,Frankly if the acid doesn\'t correctly propagates along the penis it is ugly Erect. That\'s why I hesitate to have it removed

I think the guy has been fooled by the advertising. Maybe it\'s not that bad, just needs better aftercare... I\'ll try to find the others to see if they are revelant.

The study has been posted before and the video of the dr\'s involved in the study has also been posted.

Sadly these studies don\'t seem to count for much, as they are usually written by Dr\'s who perform the procedures for a living. The results of the PLGA Scaffold study were amazing, but in reality when guys went to Serbia to have it done, the results were 1/5 as good in terms of gains and with a much higher complication rate. There in a study by a Dr called Panalov (sp?) who did a study on FFT and he reported excellent results, but as we know, in reality FFT is very inconsistent. Going by what we\'ve seen with guys who have had Macrolane and what Jelq Nicholson has reported from French forums, it suggests that this study is again way out of sync with reality.

I\'m yet to come across an independent study (such as those carred out by David Ralph et al) that hasn\'t reported low satisfaction rate for an PE procedure. Yet every study carried out by Dr\'s who make money from these procedures seem to report great results!

Food for thought (I don\'t think this was mentioned yet, excuses me if it was):
Study-
Use of Macrolane VRF 30 in Emicircumferential Penis Enlargement.

RESULTS: The circumferential enlargement obtained from both techniques ranged from 3.2 to 4.5 cm, with a decrement during Erection. In all patients, the increase in penis length ranged from 1.8 to 3.6 cm. No complications were seen in patients treated with HA, whereas 8 patients treated with lipofilling developed granuloma, and another experienced fat Necrosis. The vast majority (n = 72) of patients reported being \"very satisfied\" with the results.

Look it up for more info...

@hoddle

ok thanks.

@aestheticgirth

I\'m not considering FFT myself, just reporting what I read in the thread I linked (initially to find testimonies on Macrolane or equivalents). I\'ve never been interested in FFT, didn\'t read much on the subject and don\'t advise anyone on doing it.

I don\'t understand why you guys even talk about fat injections. I do not belive that it is firm in Erect state. The other problems everyone who has read abit on pe speak for themself aswell (lumpy, unevenly resolving, simply shit imo). If people are happy with it, that is the exception. And therefore i would not count on beenig one of those lucky people.


The other 3 filler options we are talking about in this thread are way more promising. Everything reason for this is written already in this thread.At least to me it is clear where the investigation should go and fat is just like \"what the heck?!\" to me at this point.


ps excellent idea of asking greenwald for a video of his performance hoddle. its so simply these days.

FFT is fat injection. It stands for Free Fat Transfer.

Well I don\'t really know, I am because of a specific problem, skin wouldn\'t slide along the shaft.

Ok that\'s what you call FFT, it will help my understanding.

Thanks. There seem to be a lot of Dr\'s in France doing FFT.

Do you know how common Circumcision is in France?

They say they are happy about it.

Soft when flaccid, hard when erect as it seems. Which surprised some as it\'s fat, Ididn\'t know as well.

The major concerns are the price, they say 2000 ' to be cheap.

The fact that it\'s temporary. A guy says he losts 1cm in one year and that it happened suddenly, he is quite pissed off but he has still 1.5 cm gain, which means he got near a full inch increase for one year and then lost a little more than 0.5.

They say it mostly resorbs over time but a little remains permanently, and the more times you do it, the more remains long term.

As the fat is taken on your own body, if you\'re too fit this will not be possible.

They talk about a pioneer of this procedure: Dr Abecassis (french dr)

www.chirurgie-intime.com/docteur-abecassis/

I havn\'t read the whole thing, maybe there are bad experiences I didn\'t see.