My idea of keeping stretched is to keep it Erect, semi Erect stretched by hand or a stretcher and if you have GF.wife can keep you excited as long as possible but not continuously. Next day go to Dr C for a check up and even a possible quick fill-up the spots, yes it can be done safely. Since this is more work for him, I would feel he should charge a little extra for the work and of course for the PMMA...This will benefit all. Nurse Wade can do the actual check up, he has a great eye, while Dr C can pop in if there is a problem hence keeping free for other sessions he may be doing at that time...get me?
Also, I should add, there does seem to be general trend of diminishing returns. It seems that quite often, in the end, guys go back for 3rd and 4th rounds, involving lots of PMMA being injected, but gaining not much. Whether this is the case with 30% I\'m not sure. Fred and Olafspo seemed to get fairly consistent gains from 30%.
I think the key is to gain as much as possible, with as little PMMA as possible. If one insists on multiple rounds, I think it makes sense to start with 10% and then have each following round with 30%. Personally I\'d not consider that, as I\'d be scared to have so much injected. But if you want bigger gains, then that\'s what I\'d do. The gains achieved by round 1 10%, seem to be no smaller than what Olafspo and Fred got from their first round with 30%. I guess this is because the initial immune reaction is the most dramatic, therefore the difference is seen more in density than volume.
carljohnson wrote: So is it reasonable to assume 10% over 2 rounds would yield 1\" on average, or would you not get as much gain on the second round? I\'d like 1\" total and 2 rounds is fine but I\'d rather not go more than that.
From my observation 10% isn\'t ideal for 2nd round procedures. This is why I think 10% has a bad reputation. It doesn\'t seem to do much on the second round. Many of the guys who got 10% and were disappointed with their results were those going for a second round, after having 20% the first time. So they were essentially having half as much PMMA, to cover a greater surface area. Some guys reported virtually no gains at all. If you compare 2nd round 10% guys, with those posted above, I\'d imagine there will be a big negative difference.
I think 1st round sessions will yield the most whatever is used, as the beads get encapsulated in collagen. But by the second round, part of the capsule is already in place.
So is it reasonable to assume 10% over 2 rounds would yield 1\" on average, or would you not get as much gain on the second round? I\'d like 1\" total and 2 rounds is fine but I\'d rather not go more than that.
I took the furthest post op measurements. In most cases that tended to be when members were checking in just before round 2.
10% seems to get a terrible wrap, but I can\'t see why. It certainly seems to give terrible results for second rounds, but on a virgin penis, I don\'t think the gains are that bad at all. Obviously there are none of the 1\" gains we\'ve seen recently with 30%, but then again, very few of these guys had over 20cc\'s injected and most of the guys getting 30% seem to get about 25cc\'s.
I think in most cases, a single session of 10% PMMA wont give the gains most guys want. This is why I\'m not really a fan of PMMA anymore. I just don\'t think it can produce the gains most want, whilst still offering a decent risk/reward ratio. That\'s just my opinion, but I\'m no expert on Biolplasty anyway, so really my opinion has very little value. It\'s just based on what I\'ve read over the last couple of years. I liked PMMA as an alternative to the likes of Alloderm/Belloderm and FFT and still do. But it seems that most guys want greater gains than the old procedures were usually able to offer and thus a hell of a lot more PMMA is injected than what I\'d personally be comfortable with.
It would be interesting to see how many of these guys maintained these results with one round of 10%. Depending on when these measurement were taken, size could fluctuate. I am just thinking of guys like M7 who had higher concentrations and decreased in size as time went on, until holding steady.
\"Here is a list of our members that received 10% for round 1 and their results:Pmmaalltheway 16cc ' 0.6Eqstudent 20cc ' 0.75Rondo 21cc ' 0.4JAM 19cc ' 0.6Edupd 15cc ' 0.275Zayne 20cc ' 0.6Mikehok 17cc ' 0.5Andy 20cc ' 0.6Austin Peter 15cc ' 0.75Cosminc 14cc ' 0.75Pr2005 18cc ' 0.4Bernardil 17cc ' 0.5Jacko 19cc ' 0.75Mustgetbigger ' 20cc ' 0.5ZOL ' 18cc ' 0.5CHL 19cc ' 0.375Imbignow 23cc ' 0.2
There are others who had 10% round 1, but I can\'t find their stats.
The average gain of the 17 members above is 0.53\"
I\'m not sure of the answer to your question but there was a post not long ago that had a listing of the 10% folks and each of their gains. Someone aggregated the data into one post. Anyone remember this one?
The gist of it was most people were getting pretty good results from just 10%.