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TOPIC: NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection)

NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1277197748

My Urologist who is doing my procedure on Monday also was quite worried about inflammation and cancer.

Asbestos does not cause cancer, it induces a reaction in our bodies (including inflammation) that causes the cancer.

It\'s our bodies reaction to the foreign material that is unfortunately the culprit - not the material itself.

This is one of the reasons I\'m going to get my lump removed, but it is causing my entire penis to be swollen, almost 24x7

I think usually the PMMA swelling is only after sex ... so I\'m not as worried about the steady state of PMMA.

There seems to be a report here that justifies this here

For PMMA patients ... I wonder if it would be prudent to have a Urologist check your junk once a year -- just for safety sake?

With Asbestos it would cause constant chronic inflammation 24x7 ... so if our penises are just getting inflamed after sex.. then maybe its much less often than Asbestos, so less risk

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1276010905

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1276005142

It\'s all about blood supply. The reason why PMMA is an excellent approach is the ability to allow capillaries and blood vessels.

From the pictures you can clearly see the blood supply.

Olive oil does not have the ability to allow blood vessels because there\'s no immediate response by the body for collagen formation and blood supply.

The olive oil caused an asphyxiation of the surrounding tissue and the body did not respond to the lipid in the olive oil. It also lead to the cancer because the tissues were deprived of oxygen.

As for the injury to the penis, if there\'s no blood supply, how do you get healing cells and nutrients to heal it when you have olive oil? Life is in the blood.

No blood supply to any organ or tissue will result in death of the organ or tissue.

I\'ve been here for almost 3 years and done a lot of research before I take the plunge.

The bodies response to the presence of the PMMA is they key to the success.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275798014

I am about 5 hours out before having PMMA bioplasty on my biceps and calves. I just underwent lig cut yesterday. I have spent hours, dollars, research, full-heart prayer and deep soul searching to find the best possible satisfaction to my wants... None of this penis altering is needed to get me from birth through a long life and natural death (best scenarios, of course). Our wants carry the most cost in all aspects. All in all... desperation is sad and sometimes requires the ultimate in cost. My heart goes out to the poor fellow who attempted what sounded no less than an ill-concocted half-assed solution. I\'m doing my very best to tread sure footedly and keep in tune with my body and its signals of distress.

Side bar... I want to return to Tijuana for PMMA in my penis in a few months... conservative aesthetics, no record setting at all.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275794806

Musky wrote: 1000\'s of US plastic surgeons, dermatologists and urologists won\'t inject PMMA. That is not an insignificant factor. The US has many of the finest doctors, medical schools and researchers in the world. Mexico is not known for its medical advances... The lack of consensus by first world doctors that PMMA is safe means that there has not been enough research. I agree that the injection of olive oil was foolish.it likely was not sterile so he injected bacteria into his penis which would explain chronic inflammation. PMMA, properly handled, is sterile.


You kidding me? An effective & permanent Dermal Filler would be the end of the cash cow that is the American Cosmetic Market. These doctors thrive on repeat clients to \"sustain\" their \"treatments\" every 6-12 months or so, continuously bringing in $$. Further, due to PMMA\'s permanency, many of these doctors prefer shying away because if problems do arise, they are considerably harder to reverse/remove. This isn\'t an indictment against PMMA by American doctors as a whole necessarily. And remarkably, there have been physicians reported here to have had little-to-no knowledge of the efficacy or mechanism behind PMMA. And as a matter of fact, PMMA (Artefill) is approved for facial filler in the U.S.

I hope that those who choose not to undergo PMMA do so because they realize that they don\'t have any real size issue, and that the current \"experimental\" state of Phalloplasty doesn\'t justify pursuing such risky endeavors. No one is denying that there aren\'t any risks, but as Miracle7x6.5 points out clearly, no medical procedure is without risk.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275794400

1000\'s of US plastic surgeons, dermatologists and urologists won\'t inject PMMA. That is not an insignificant factor. The US has many of the finest doctors, medical schools and researchers in the world. Mexico is not known for its medical advances... The lack of consensus by first world doctors that PMMA is safe means that there has not been enough research.

I agree that the injection of olive oil was foolish.it likely was not sterile so he injected bacteria into his penis which would explain chronic inflammation. PMMA, properly handled, is sterile.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275785923

@xander86

The truth is if a doctor says he is injecting you with PMMA.... in mexico...can you be 100% sure it\'s not medical grade silicon?

I was shown the product in its original packaging and it was indeed OEM Metacril.

PMMA not approved in US for penis injections and must be for certain reasons.

True. It is still relatively new to US doctors in the grand array of cosmetic fillers though its use in penile augmentation and other areas have well over 10 years of documented history in other countries.

Since it\'s not done in US, there isn\'t any reliable sources to say what happens to injections in the penis years after.

It is a shame that your viewpoint of US medical care is so biased. The fact that you hold it in such high regard and consider only the good ole US of A as \'reliable\' displays ignorance. Some of the best physicians and hospitals in the world are found outside the USA. There are some on this board over 3 years out with no negative side effects. Big Fred is roughly 7 years out without complication. There are some unfortunate incidents of course but that can be said of ANY medical procedure. All Phalloplasty procedures are not without risk.

so Just cause I am sceptical, doesn\'t mean I am against it.

I hope you remain so. Skepticism will serve you well. I do NOT advocate or advise anyone to undergo PMMA Penile Bioplasty. However, in my educated opinion, it is the least invasive procedure and with sound scientific background/principle currently available.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275784910

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I think a lot of guys in here are in denial, as no one wants to envisage themselves suffering. A lot of cancers start from chronic inflammation, and can take even decades to appear, some peoples bodies will react to things other people bodies don\'t react too. People saying that the mexican doctor are safe e.t.c look at the PIP breast implants, these were approved and used in western countries, 10 years later we have problems. The truth is if a doctor says he is injecting you with PMMA.... in mexico...can you be 100% sure it\'s not medical grade silicon? PMMA not approved in US for penis injections and must be for certain reasons. People are saying that it has no side effects, google PMMA and you will see people having problems even 3 years after from injections into their face. Since it\'s not done in US, there isn\'t any reliable sources to say what happens to injections in the penis years after. Like I said, you either lucky or not... depends how your body will deal with it.

I am waiting and watching the guys who have had injections on this board, so far looks good and hope it remains that way. Why, cause I want to have my Cock thickened up, so Just cause I am sceptical, doesn\'t mean I am against it.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275778563

I am worrying guess olive oil was a big thing in Bangkok a guy had his for 19 years and then ran in to problems and had cancer I guess olive oil is scary and cancerous

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275778421

Crazy some guy had it for 19 years then it he had problems

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275776554

Musky wrote: I thought about getting PMMA but the way it works has not been scientifically researched. I wonder if PMMA in the penis merely causes inflammatory swelling rather than collagen growth. If size comes from inflammation then PMMA is like asbestos. Over the long term the inflammation will turn cancerous. We need to see scientists inject PMMA in animal penises and the dissect them to see what causes Girth. There is no way to know if it is collagen or inflammation at this time. I worry that Girth fluctuates then goes down because inflammation. Some guys seem to vary a quarter Inch from day to day. That can\'t be collagen. Do guys notice an increase in Girth after master action or sex...if yes then that is inflammation not collagen. Sorry to be alarmist but every doctor in Canada and the US does not do this. Only one doctor in Mexico does it and I don\'t think Mexican standards of medicine are acceptable to North Americans. We really need more science to investigate this.


I haven\'t seen a more presumptuous and grossly ignorant post...at least it\'s been a while. The sheer amount of information & citation on this forum has long concluded the physiological mechanisms behind bioplasty (via PMMA). Miracle7x6.5 touched on a few examples, but they aren\'t nearly all the examples that could be listed.

All this being said, no one disputes that Phalloplasty (including PMMA penile bioplasty) is experimental by nature. This forum continues to investigate all methods and their respective success/failure profiles. We welcome critical & inquisitive minds to join in on the discussion & investigation, so please, desist from baseless posts in the future. I highly recommend you take some time and thoroughly read both the content on these forums (Phalloplasty.proboards.com & this one), as well as the content linked throughout these forums before rejoining the discussion. Thanks.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275772772

@Musky

I wonder if PMMA in the penis merely causes inflammatory swelling rather than collagen growth.

Post procedure, one can expect swelling and as the collagen process takes time to complete, a variation in size. Biopsies have been performed on PMMA created collagen and I can assure you that it is indeed collagen that is formed around the microsphereric beads. There are photos on this site of these biopsies. I have not experienced any change in size for months. Also, quality of Erection varies greatly for most men.
Only one doctor in Mexico does it and I don\'t think Mexican standards of medicine are acceptable to North Americans.
This statement is unfounded and untrue. There is more than one doctor in Mexico practicing penile bioplasty with PMMA. Medical Tourism is popular for a reason. The best medical care I\'ve ever received was in Brazil. There are many reports of PMMA used in the penis from Brazil that date back 5+ years with no evidence of cancer of any sort. There is a risk down the road of a foreign body reaction but it is a small risk. Also, even in PMMA enhanced patients, a localized infection can and has spread to the penile tissues. When the infection is cleared, so is the infected collagen matrix and penile tissues. This man didn\'t seek medical attention and injected olive oil. Even Popeye would know better. That said, there is a risk with every Phalloplasty procedure and I advise everyone to proceed with extreme caution and research thoroughly before embarking into unknown territory blindly.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275772317

I thought about getting PMMA but the way it works has not been scientifically researched. I wonder if PMMA in the penis merely causes inflammatory swelling rather than collagen growth. If size comes from inflammation then PMMA is like asbestos. Over the long term the inflammation will turn cancerous. We need to see scientists inject PMMA in animal penises and the dissect them to see what causes Girth. There is no way to know if it is collagen or inflammation at this time. I worry that Girth fluctuates then goes down because inflammation. Some guys seem to vary a quarter Inch from day to day. That can\'t be collagen. Do guys notice an increase in Girth after master action or sex...if yes then that is inflammation not collagen. Sorry to be alarmist but every doctor in Canada and the US does not do this. Only one doctor in Mexico does it and I don\'t think Mexican standards of medicine are acceptable to North Americans. We really need more science to investigate this.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275770513

And another key point is I think the olive oil, I doubt thats safe to inject anywhere.

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NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection) 10 years 1 week ago #1275765256

While this sounds scary, the only concrete information here is that the guy got a cut on his penis that he neglected and it got infected. Penile cancer is pretty rare, but the article doesn\'t say how they made the connection between the cancer and the enlargement procedure. There\'s a good chance that these problems were independent of one another.

Also, with all that we\'ve read about PMMA, good or bad, I don\'t recall seeing any connection to cancer. I think the takeaway here is that if something like a cut happens you shouldn\'t neglect it.

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