TOPIC: Will one round of PMMA be worth it?

Hmm, I thought the lowest was typically around 6 months. I\'m jealous of your Girth, 6.5in is amazing.

Oh well, we\'ll see!

Why aren\'t surgeons in the USA performing the PMMA procedure? I apologize if this has been addressed, but I\'ve used the search function, googled it, and came up with nothing.

thank you

@cerebril

There is always another viewpoint.
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I agree with almost everything you have posted. I am an omnivore and extremely healthy with T levels over 900 and free T levels of 300+. My cholesterol, triglycerides and all other vitals are tip top.

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@ mustang

my reasons for eggs, a dozen pasture raised organic eggs cost about five dollars for three days and since I want to eat as close to bedtime as possible will be easier to digest than meat, besides grass fed organic red meat of any kind is very expensive to eat every day, but yeah eat your red meat its\' good for you, just make sure that it is grass fed and organic, as for the eggs you don\'t have to eat four but as mentioned you should have at least one, preferably raw

@miracle

I am not aware of statistics showing higher T levels in vegetarians and while it may work for some as pumping works for some. How many competetion/elite level athletes are vegetarians? It is my belief that humans are omnivores and can get by on a vegetarian diet but they must have animal based foods to achieve full genetic potential. There is a certain class of people that have studied humans for thousands of years and believe that humans on vegetarian diets are more docile and easily controlled, that usually means that the menfolk will have lower T levels. Yes, that is correct that organic does not mean grass fed and vice versa. Ideally you want your animal products to be both organic and grass fed. Note above I mentioned free range, which means that the animals will be eating grass or in its\' natural environment. And yes, pasteurized dairy products are inflammatory and along with the other garbage they pump into the cows makes most store bought milk poison. The higher SHBG levels is enough reason to shun a vegetarian diet as free testosterone levels are what count for strength and other manly characteristics. Also, vegetarians by forgoing the concentrated calories of animals based fats will usually substitute those calories with simple carbs that cause a insulin spike causing the body to suck all those excess calories into the cells causing weight gain in the form of fat. As men become fatter, T production drops off favoring higher estrogen levels which in turn favor even more fat gain setting up a viscous cycle. Ironically eating animal fats outright are less likely to make you fat.

Hi Yao. I\'ve had sex numerous times and it\'s almost not worth having--can\'t really feel anything, loss of Erection, same situation as yours. The first sexual encounter that I had many years ago was an epic fail and at the time I had assumed that it was her fault, thought that it was because she had a large vagina or something . So, anyways, I\'ve had sex many times since then and it hasn\'t worked out too well....and then when you get around our age your dealing with women whom have had children and it gets worse. I\'ve consulted so-called professionals about this and they always say something along the lines of \" 4\" Girth is fine, you can satisfy a woman with that\" or \" 4\" and above is the normal range\"---while this might be true in certain parts of the world, it doesn\'t seem to be the case here. But then again there are happily married guys out there with small penises, so there\'s someone for everyone, I guess. My suggestion to you, if you don\'t mind me saying, is to get out there and get laid anyways.On another note, would someone please explain why Phalloplasty with PMMA isn\'t performed in the USA? I used the search function but too much stuff popped up and I\'m short on time. Thank you.Thanks for the replies everyone.

@cerebril

#1 Glad it worked for you. It\'s done more harm than good for most men.

#2 Actually, vegetarians have statistically higher T than their carnivorous counterparts. The studies back this up. Vegetarians that replace meat products with soy products for protein will increase E and decrease T. Your body makes its own cholesterol as it requires (hormonal production included). Excessive intake of dietary cholesterol is not necessary. However... Vegetarians also have higher levels of SHBG which means their free testosterone levels are lowered. I still advise eating at least one egg per day, yolk included... but not from chickens that eat feed. Chickens are supposed to consume insects, seeds, leaves, worms, mice, etc.

You also seem to be repeating what I\'ve already said about organic/grass-fed/ meat/dairy. Also, FYI most supermarkets selling organic/free range eggs/beef etc... don\'t tell you that their beef or chicken is fed a vegetarian diet of GRAIN. Only organic GRASS-FED beef has the T boosting properties and high levels of Growth Factors, Omegas and Zinc. Also the organic milk in the supermarket is pasteurized and homogenized making it essentially lifeless organic milk. You are correct about hops.

Wow, four raw eggs before you sleep? Will eating quality red meat in the evening have a similar effect albeit not as much?

have to chime in here on a few points

#1 I have to disagree with the statement that pumping does not deliver permanent results, while maybe not for everyone, it certainly increased my Girth, albeit over several years of dedicated practice, over about a ten year period I went from a 1.75\" tube to a 2\" tube, my Girth is now pushing the six Inch mark and it is permanent, also it seems now that after a session I am able to hold an over the six Inch Girth mark for almost 48 hours, sometimes 72 hours and while at the outset my erections were soft and squishy, now they are definitely penetration worthy
#2 any man on a vegetarian diet is killing his testosteone levels, your body uses cholesterol to make testosterone usually between 2am to 4 am, the best form of cholesterol for this is ANIMAL based cholesterol, no cholesterol means little or no testosterone production, less or no testosterone is not good if you are seeking to be a manly man, this does not mean an indescriminate consumption of meat and animal products, ideally these should only be organic, free range as conventional feed lot garbage is loaded with estrogen and other crap that will have the opposite effect of what meat is supposed to do, another MANLY pursuit the drinking of beer should also be avoided as hops, a major constituate of beer is highly estrogenic, back to cholesterol, during the day I limit my intake of animal products to those that are low fat, but at night before bedtime I will have four raw eggs to insure that my body has the raw materials to make testosterone

Hi M7.5;

So these tests are good for checking the effectivness of the supplements protocol you described in your other thread?

\" You\'ll want to have testosterone, estrogen, E2, free testosterone, dihydrotestosterone and prolactin checked.\"

Propecia is the worst drug ever created! Stay away. I too took it and 7 years later have sides. The side effects can be permanent and usually are. Please read: www.pfsfoundation.org

Propecia actually turns some genes off permanently! It effects the central nervous system so the signal from the brain to your penis is never sent. It has ruined many mens lives. The only work around I have found is PT-141 due to it\'s action on the CNS. I still get nocturnal erections and morning wood but without manual stimulation, it is hard to achieve an erection. Bremelanotide (PT-141) works great at restoring the signal. Many men (even in their late teens/early twenties) cannot achieve an erection even with a PDE-5 inhibitor (Cialis,Viagra,Levitra) due to use of Propecia. They have no libido and low testosterone and high estrogen. I\'ve managed to conquer estrogen dominance and have very high levels of testosterone but the damage done to the CNS is yet to be resolved. I am currently participating in a class action lawsuit against Merck. This shit is poison. Stay away!

Hi Frank, Nice to read your posts as I have a penis almost identical to yours i.e 5-6 EL and 4.1 EG.I see why you are asking whether one sessions will be enough to gain an Inch since we are starting from low levels of girths.If you give a 20CC to a penis of 4 EG and a penis of 5EG, the gain for the smaller penis is much more than the big one.I will follow your PMMA journey with and hope you get the best result. Regarding the Erection quality, I have also similar problem as yours and I just turned 30.My Erection quality dropped significantly 6 months ago when I gave hair loss (propecia) medicine a chance.After a month, I noticed my Erection quality went down and I quickly stopped taking it.May I ask how your sexual experience is with the 4 EG?

I have had sex once and couldnt feel anything and was keep losing my Erection.Hope we can exchange experiences

PS I am vegetarian too lol

Thanks for the reply Miracle. With the surgery being like $.1,700 bucks, yeah I could probaly swing 2 or 3 sessions if I budget, just hoped I wouldn\'t have to. I\'m not wealthy like many of the members here, I\'m just a regular Joe with a job and small savings, so I\'m looking for the cheapest, safest method with the greatest potential for gain--and it looks like PMMA is it, I guess.

And yeah I have nocturnal erections and wake up with morning wood sometimes but usually it\'s very skinny and pathetic. I have to be extremely aroused (which is rare) in order to achieve a some-what decent Erection--but then I lose it very quickly, no matter what. As for my diet, I\'ve been a vegetarian for several years however these problems began well before the diet change.

thanks

No way!!! You\'ll need at least 2 rounds to achieve a 1\" gain in Girth and may need more for aesthetic touch up.

No. A Penis Pump or Bogus supplements will not produce the results you are looking for. You should see a Urologist and have a color Doppler ultrasound of your penile arteries with an induced Erection. If normal (good blood flow and no venous leakage), have a full hormone profile done via blood work. You\'ll want to have testosterone, estrogen, E2, free testosterone, dihydrotestosterone and prolactin checked. If all of this checks out normal, your problem could be psychogenic ED which is unlikely but does occur. Do you have normal nocturnal erections? Do you wake up with morning wood? How is your diet? At 33, you should have erections of steel. I\'m 40 and have increased my erectile function tremendously. If you need help, we are here. Thanks for the compliment.