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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271396120

Not sure if anyone else saw this, but it\'s an article on some guy dying from getting a silicone injection from a non-practicing \"dr.\"
main.aol.com/2011/12/12/botched-penis-injection-_n_1145698.html
Just shows that you need to really trust the person doing the procedure and research what\'s going inside you.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271450978

Is it really possible to remove PMMA? Isn\'t it so widespread and miniscule that it would do more harm than good to try to remove it? If I have it right doesn\'t the PMMA act as an agent to stimulate more Collagen growth thus bolstering or creating more elastin resulting in thicker, more bulbous skin? Isn\'t the percentage when it has finally settled in to a particular area of the body 80% new Collagen growth and 20% PMMA?
It would appear to be very difficult to remove PMMA. On those microscopic images on Casavantes site the PMMA specks are spread out. Dr. C calls it an implant but it is not a solid silicone implant like Elist\'s (which apparently is a very dangerous option). It obviously would be so much more difficult to remove the (apparent) tiny specks of PMMA than it would be to remove the silicone implant.
I guess my point is that once you make the decision to get PMMA it is almost impossible to extract the remaining PMMA. If you have complications 5,10 or 15 years from now I don\'t know that you would be able to extract it. That is why I remain on the fence about the procedure. If I knew I could get it safely removed then I might jump to do it. I really want this to be the magic bullet for Girth enhancement but I just don\'t know yet
Having said that I will never get that Elist implant. Too many nightmarish stories even if he can safely remove it. Even then there seems to be retraction problems. But God bless anyone who has it and is happy with it. I\'m sure some guys are better candidates than others and it works out for them. Sometimes body chemistry matters and the silicone implant could be a nice fit. Just not for me.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271449872

The silicone victim\'s death had little to do with the \"safety\" of silicone itself. Embolism can occur when any foreign substance is injected into the bloodstream. It could be caused by ordinarily-harmless substances like air, fat, oil, talc, petroleum jelly, or Synthol.
So, relative to this thread\'s topic, the risk of getting a procedures done by an unlicensed practitioners in their home is that they are by definition medical amateurs. They can\'t engage in the critical procedures to protect the patient against embolism, and often they don\'t even appreciate the importance.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271408616

I would agree with your findings EP as the echo mine. On a side note, some members feel uncomfortable sharing complications (whether major or minor) with the board. However, most everyone with a positive outcome will shout it from the rooftop. This is typical and expected.

... Hey... I just noticed your \"Premier Forum Donor\" title. Unfair. HA!

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271405486

If you look at the people who reported their experiences on this forum, then it is easy to see that, so far only, the complication rate is not alarming enough to judge against this procedure. Of course this is my own opinion and I back it up by having two sessions already. I am a risk taker thu, so your experience WILL vary.

Having said that, remember that we are talking about ONLY the people who reported here. There may be tens and even hundreds who have not reported on this particular forum, hence their data is missing and can effect our knowledge either way if that data ever becomes available!

On the other hand, a lot of patients who came to this site asking about PMMA with Dr C, ended up going to Dr C and had their sessions. Again, so far the data suggests a high percentage of success....so far!

Good luck to all of us anyway.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271402252

While I fully agree with the cautious approach (if anything, I want my fellow forum brothers to err on the side of caution), a few facts need to be reiterated:

Veterans can correct me if I am mistaken but my understanding is that Dr C. has performed penis bioplasty via PMMA for at least five years and bioplasty to other body parts for much longer (rate of performed procedures to the penis appears to have dramatically increased over the past year and it would only sound logical that this forum played a role in that). So far, no catastrophic results of penis bioplasty (ie necessarily requiring excision of PMMA) have been reported (except one patient requesting Removal of the product, for unclear reasons).

This is not to say that potentially problems could not arise over a longer horizon (late onset of granuloma after 10 years or so?). My point is that the track record looks good in my opinion, and trivially so compared to any other available procedure, with the exception of FFT.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271399825

While I would love the idea of my EG going from 4.75 mid shaft, to 5.75 EG, the thought of developing an embolism or PMMA migrating scares the living hell out of me. Whatever anyone does, do not take medical advice from the Dr. who will be performing on you. While I absolutely see that Dr. C. has a good reputation, the fact is he should be considered a car salesman selling you a new car with all the bells and whistles, because he is the one profiting. I am in no way implying Dr. C. is not credible, I am merely implying this for any type of surgery, especially cosmetic surgery like penis augmentation.
Do not think for a minute that PMMA is risk free because it\'s not. Any type of surgery involves risks, especially one involving injecting millions of tiny plastic beads into your manhood. This is a very serious decision to make and should absolutely be treated as such.
I, myself, have been calling as many plastic surgeons as I have the past week trying to understand as much as I can about PMMA. I am leaning towards a no to this operation as of now. That may change later, but as of now there\'s just so many unknowns about PMMA being injected into the penis. And that\'s what everyone should remember. The short term looks to be safe. However, that\'s just the short term. Long term is unknown and the unknown would drive me absolutely insane just thinking about it.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271399736

I agree with big meat. Do not RELY on other people online to make a decision. The support from a lot of the guys on here helped me a lot, but I still did a lot of my own research on Dr. C and PMMA. You\'re going to see the extreme story because it is rare. Some random nut job is injecting stuff into random people. That isn\'t going to have a good outcome.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271399590

Yes, PMMA is different from silicone. That is not to say that it is free from any risk.

Either way, you should not be making medical decisions based off of advice you receive on a message board. If you are naive enough, and happen to stumble upon a forum with bad intentions you could be convinced to do all sorts of unsafe stuff to your penis.

Regardless of what you read, do your own homework before having any operation. No one is going to care more about your penis than you are.I feel bad for the poor guy. Our obsessions can take us to dangerous places.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271397629

What are your thoughts on this guys? Please tell me that PMMA is 180 degrees from silicone. Can it cause an embolism like it said in the article. I really am thinking seriously about getting this done but when I see this article I am taken aback. Please tell me that getting this procedure done is nothing like getting silicone, or fix-a-flat or any of this crap that I see these corrupt people inject into others. I have read a lot about PMMA and Dr. C and have been very encouraged but then I see this article and I get scared. Thanks.

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Article on guy dying from a penile injection (silicone) 10 years 11 months ago #1271587539

I am not a doctor but I assume they would try and deglove the penis to reveal the deep tissue and cut away the excess collagen that has been formed...I have seen pictures online of bothced FFT and Aloderm surgeries being \"fixed\" this way. You are propably stuck with what ever outcome for the first several years. You are more likely to absorb some of PMMA and this may cause lumps toi appear like FFT. i would rather absorb my own fat and not some chemical who\'s name I cannot pronounce, however.

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