TOPIC: Infections, Complications, Risks of PMMA?

@hoddle

i was saying not big deal in terms that for what i understood dosen\'t cause any health risk if left untreated.
Is correct assuming that no health risk can develop form untreated FBG?

marcop83 wrote: @hoddle

i was saying not big deal in terms that for what i understood dosen\'t cause any health risk if left untreated.
Is correct assuming that no health risk can develop form untreated FBG?

I think so seeing as it\'s been mentioned that if left alone that can resolve themselves upto to 5 years later. But that\'s things I want to be sure of. If they don\'t damage the surrounding tissue, which I\'d previously assumed they would and they aren\'t infectious, then I can\'t see why there would be health risks and can see why they can be left untreated.

hoddle10 wrote: I think so seeing as it\'s been mentioned that if left alone that can resolve themselves upto to 5 years later. But that\'s things I want to be sure of. If they don\'t damage the surrounding tissue, which I\'d previously assumed they would and they aren\'t infectious, then I can\'t see why there would be health risks and can see why they can be left untreated.

Occam\'s razor: we compile a list of plastic surgeons and call/email them on this specific question

HoddleI can certainly see what you are saying. Since the shaft skin is independent of the fascia, and the PMMA is placed below the fascia, logically if a granuloma did develop, it should not affect the shaft skin.

i have a question that might be already covered int he old forum, if it is the case i apologize.
I was reading about injectable silicone and that many women that had it developed conditions such as: rheumatoid arthritis, dermatomyositis, severe joint and muscle pain, incapacitating fatigue, swollen lymph glands, skin problems, peripheral numbness, multiple allergies, headaches, hair loss, sunlight sensitivity, central nervous system disorders (similar to multiple sclerosis), and others.
Does PMMA can cause them aswell? or it is limited just to silicone ?

He never said who the other doctor was, just a patient who previously had the procedure with someone else. According to Wade, the guy wanted it out because he realized he had way too much used and his girlfriend didn\'t want to go near him. He didn\'t mention any complication.

I wonder how they removed it, and if there were complications removing it?

There would be consistency if the guy mentioned by Christian wanted it removed for whatever reason (eg the guy fell desperately in love with a tres, tres petite asian lady ) rather than had to have it removed.

Would be quite important to know the details.

I do recall this story as well. Wade said the guy\'s penis looked like an arm... though I can\'t recall the details as well since I was on a few meds that cause drowsiness and poor memory retention.

If anyone goes for an extra huge Girth enhancement with any procedure and also has e.g. a small glans which is not tapered with his shaft\'s size ---> he will have very difficulty (actually impossible IMO) to have sex in the future.
A guy with e.g. > 6 sessions or around 100 cc of PMMA ---> he will have e.g. >3.5\" extra gain in his Girth so imagine somebody with 8-8.5\" Girth with 3.5-4\" glans Girth how can he use his penis ---> No sex for the rest of his life ifhe didn\'t remove it .
I had around 48cc ---> 6.75\" EG , imagine if I go for another 50 cc --> sure there will be no sex life for me then.
It is mostly our mistake we should know our limit and to say it is enough and no more PMMA , I think it is better to wait for a longer period than 6 wks after the 2nd session ( it will be no harm if you wait for few months use your tool and enjoy it for a period of time and then decide if you want more or not ???) unless you are so sure it will be only for touch-up and thats it (even that I will wait for 3-4 months to see the end result) .

And it is also the doctor\'s mistake if he agreed to the patient\'s request for a huge Girth , an experienced doctor (and worried about his reputation) wouldn\'t do that .
So you can always add some PMMA in the future but it will be very difficult to remove it without a risk of complication (this is very important for all of us and esp. the young guys here) so be careful.

Two key articles on granulomas authored by Dr. Lemperle. Please, take a look, as they are very informative.

Thanks for the links Supa! Looking forward to finding some time to thoroughly review these articles, the \"G\" word is of considerable importance to many on this forum that\'s for sure!

From reading those articles, it seems that if one wanted they could just accept the granulomas and not suffer any health risks because of them. My biggest concern with PMMA has always been that it might have to be removed and then there is a high risk of Necrosis leading to loss of the shaft skin, which would be uttelry devestating. But if one can just leave the granulomas indefinitely, then why have surgery to remove them?

As someone who has experienced lumps in my penis from both fat and scar tissue I can tell you that it really isn\'t that terrible. I\'m not saying they didn\'t effect me, but that they are something one can live with and much less terrible complication than Necrosis. However, if they caused the penis skin to go red, as in some of those photo\'s then it would be a different story, as the penis would not be presentable and the skin would probably be sore. So, I\'m wondering if the redness only shows if the PMMA is injected into the skin as oppossed to below the fascia? My thinking is that if one has a red lump in the skin, it is going to visible, but if the red lump is below the skin, I\'m assuming the redness wont show through.

What I\'m saying about lumps in the penis not being that bad is hard to explain unless you\'ve actually experienced it. I\'ve currently got several lumps of thick scar tissue. I\'m assuming seeing as it\'s collagen it will feel similar to a granuloma. And to be honest, I have to feel around at times to even find it. Lastime posted the other day that his scar tissue feels like a leech stuck to the shaft of his penis. Mine is the same, but I seriously doubt anyone would be able to detect it unless they knew it was there. When I had fat lumps they were much more noticeable, but that was because the fat was soft and it contrasted with penis, makig it more obvious to touch. But I\'m assuming granulomas would be much firmer, like scar tissue. Dr C says he hasn\'t had any granulomas when injecting below the fascia, but I\'m now wondering if that is the case, or that his patients simply aren\'t aware they have developed granulomas. I guess much of this depends of the shape and size of the granuloma, but from my experiecne, many of those shown in the photos in Dr Lemperle\'s article, wouldn\'t be such a big deal in the penis and certainly not worth the risk of surgical Removal.

@hoddle

I can relate to your viewpoint: for me, if granulomas don\'t have to be removed and don\'t hurt, then I would not have problems with them having produced a few lumps here and there on the shaft.

There is a paper written by Dr. Almir Nacul (the father of pmma blunt micro-cannula bioplasty and Dr.C. learned from him this technique as far as I remember) he replied to Dr. Salles\'s paper about the 32 cases , he mentioned :-
He used PMMA since 1992, more than 5000 patients, he said in the last 6 years the rate of nodules and FBG is 0.01% for Newplastic (this statement is what we are looking for 0.01% FBG with an experienced doctor).
It is safer to use PMMA in the deeper plane than in the superficial ones ( this is another paper which mentioned injecting PMMA in a deeper plane is better than superficial plane).
In conclusion :- Newplastic has 0.01% a chance of FBG under an experienced doctor.
journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/fulltext/...methacrylate.79.aspx