TOPIC: Buyers Remorse/ Too great of gains

Concelhaut wrote: Wish I had your problem...

Guess we have to see how she likes the size eg after lot of warmup and after some months acclimatizing.
If then the size is still uncomfortable for her and you still wish to be in his shoes of being 'too big' then i imagine one thing is true: her pleasure is not your top priority, it's something else? Which i think is ok, and i think self-awareness is never bad.

123abc wrote:
Right… feel like we’re all being pranked here.
OD - not making fun of your situation at all.
..just blown away after having read so many comments where the exact opposite is being said..

Guys wishing they’d followed the post-op instructions better because it’d have given them more girth, guys going in for second, third, fourth treatment, their ladies going from hesitation to total approval.. etc., etc.

..and then we see your post so yeah, it’s rare..

We don't know how she will like it, she didn't even try yet.
And i am shocked about 'their ladies going from hesitation to total approval' and commenting 'it's rare' - implying to me that it's rare that women are not extremely happy about bigger bigger bigger always.
I obsessed a lot about the size topic, and from the data i have seen and read, also reports from many men with big girths it seems extremely believable to me that a specific woman prefers 5.6 to 5.9 inches (which is top 3% girth of western men) or finds 5.9 inches uncomfortable - here is a thread about my reasoning: phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...like-them-to-be.html

And i am 5.5 right now and i would like to be bigger (and i even didn't test it out much yet)

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@Odouble :
It makes sense to me to stop collagen right away when you want it to become less big. Unfortunately i personally think adding collagen as supplement doesn't help girth anyway, there was an old thread about it.

I think the final size will only be seen at around Day 20 and that it will be a bit less than Day 12.

I would tell her i want to kiss and carass her and not put it in yet cause it still has to heal anyway. And then do all the things to make her maximum horny for an hour or something but don't let her cum. Then tell her i imagine it would be supernice to superslowly putting my dick in her. And play with my glans on her clit. And perhaps already in that session she says something positive, like that she would like to try. Then doing the old 'i'll just put one centimetre in... how does that feel.. is that ok for my little baby?.. that's enough, is it?.. can you take another centimetre..? Yea, i think so too.. that's a good girl' - just a random possibility. Or she is not so positive in this session, then let her lie there without cumming and give her mind some time to think about it and i do another 'i will not put it in' session eg 2 days later. Basically trying to make her superhorny and ideally making her beg for it. And going superslow, and i like the centimetre game for that. And putting on a lot of pjur silicone lube before entering. And perhaps giving her her favorite vibrator if she has one.

I personally would not jerk off beforehand, cause when i jerk off i take so much longer fucking till i finally cum, that's not good in this case i think)

ps there is a not un-common effect of pmma after some fucking that there is some swelling and that penis becomes even girthier than normal

Isn't Day 20 too early to measure. I read you should at least wait 2 months.

Concelhaut wrote: Isn't Day 20 too early to measure. I read you should at least wait 2 months.

Yea.. it's just an observation from my second to last round - i was 'really small' at day 21, then i got bigger again, but after one year i had size again like at day 21.
While Day 12 is still i think a bit in the swelling phase.

Haha, thanks @Concelhaut and @123abc . That was hilarious! I actually needed that laugh. I had my talk with Ian and Dr. M yesterday and the conversation went really well. It definitely put my mind at ease a whole lot. Part of the conversation was about how women's vaginas adjust - and I know that they're not specialists on this, nor do they know the specifics of my wife's canal - but to be assured that the difference would eventually adjust did bring some peace to me, and then relaying that information to my wife I think also helped. They didn't have any advice about slowing collagen formation, they just mentioned to continue as recommended and see how things end up. I did ask about drinking coffee but they couldn't say if it helped or not. And as for the kenalog shot, that would not be a good option because I would need high doses per Ian's recommendation and that the result would cause unevenness. And yes, surgery is an option if its just too much but that would be a last resort.

Like many of you on this thread have referenced, we just have to take it slow and lube/foreplay before I enter. To be patient is the most rewarding thing we can do. What I'm learning right now is that the pressure to resume being sexually active is not welcome right now. My wife stated that she's still processing it all but to give her time. So as long as it takes, I'll still be here.

The second part of our conversation was about the collagen formation - Dr. M. feels that given my age and with not taking any collagen supplements, I should be able to experience collagen stop forming around the end of week 4. I know they state that it could continue on for about 6 weeks or more, but she said it really depends on how young patients are. She said the younger guys around ages 22-25 are the ones who experience this continuing on for longer than expected. As of this morning on day 15, I'm holding still at 5.9 inches erect mid-shaft and I'll be updating my log with pics. I know it's strange to stop taking collagen but here I am, with hopes that it might go down some more.

The third part of our convo was about lumps/nodules. I will log that conversation and ask for any advice you folks might have on this.

Thank you guys for all your support. I can't begin to tell you how important this conversation is for me mentally.

Hey @Dream just you responding means a lot to me. And I really appreciate your response because it's fair and thoughtful.

I'm on day 15 today (got my injections 7/04) and I'm still at 5.9, which has been what I've been reporting for at least a week now. At swelling I was at 6.2, then down to 6, and am holding steady at 5.9. Ian and Dr. M. said that I should be done with swelling by now. But I also know that things might fluctuate another couple of weeks. And that's a great point @Dream , just speaking for myself here - to each their own. I saw it as a win-win in my head: I become a show-er with a flaccid bulge, I no longer have to pump to achieve those gains, and she gets more pleasure out of it. But truth be told, I should have better explored being at 6 inches girth with her BEFORE I took the plunge. That would definitely have saved the predicament I'm in right now, and that's why I see this conversation as valuable insight for those of you in my boat of having a dedicated partner and testing things out first before moving forward.

And you're right about foreplay. I definitely have to work her up and enter slowly and carefully. That's going to be the trick I think to eventually getting motion going. I know for sure I won't be able to thrust away or pound deep because at my base I'm thicker. It's just going to be like having a new lover and I have to slowly introduce her to it.

And you are right about the swelling post PMMA sex - Dr. M. said that it's typical for swelling to occur post-sex. She said don't get freaked out about it and that it should go away after a bit or so. I think it's because Ian told her about me freaking out on day 3 when my sack was the size of a massive gfruit!

I'm 31 so I guess my collagen formation will stop at week 4 oh well.

@Concelhaut Everyone's different. I wouldn't give up. I know @Dream mentioned that collagen supps might not be useful, but for me I think they might've been. Just my own reporting, is all. I was taking the quality Mexican pharmacy stuff of two 525 mg pills the first week. I also know that there's plenty of articles online about foods/diet you could eat to help produce more collagen naturally. What are your stats?

It's OK. I don't care for much gains since I only do anal.

Oh, gotcha. No judgement here. But how many days has it been since you were injected? Was it PMMA? And what was your pre-and post-gains mid-Erect?

I don't measure. I'm satisfied but I'll go back for the touch-up

Anything to report on the sex front? Did you give it a go with the wife?

You won't have a problem with 5.9. Women can take 7 or even 8 and love it.

jrod wrote: You won't have a problem with 5.9. Women can take 7 or even 8 and love it.

*Some* women can under normal circumstances. And I say "normal" because when this convo comes up, people like to cite how women give birth so surely they can handle a 7 or 8 Inch Girth, but that's not what we're talking about lol.

I have my fair share of "vaginal varieties" and trust me, for some even 6" is monster thick. I've had two instances (and they were absolutely aroused and wanting to do the deed), but it just wouldn't work.

Now I'm not saying there aren't women who can't handle a watermelon, I'm just not a fan perpetuating size myths, the kind of stuff that probably gave many of us performance anxiety in our younger years. Furthermore, this site is so spoiled with fat specimens because of the work of talented doctors, that we start raising the bar of what's really thick. I know this is something that will never have a final agreement (and I'm not looking to argue this upcoming assertion, although it is informed from life experiences and having followed the online PE scene since the mid 2000's), but I think 5.5-5.75ish is the sweet spot. It's Magnum XL thick but not so coke-can-like that you begin to eliminate prospects, anal, and quickies, or have to ever deal with teeth..

The best (and arguably only) time to want to go beyond that sweet spot range is if you are locked in with a significant other and you won't have to worry as much about much larger girths because your partner will anticipate, prepare, and and accommodate. Short of having an "I want a monster Cock" fantasy, single men should not look to go much farther than the 6ish realm, you'll only get diminishing returns as you get thicker.

Hi,

Yeah, no updates as of today. But the good thing is, she told me to hold off on any revisions/removals until she's ready to try it. I spoke to Dr. Solomon's office and Dr. Carney's office. Dr. Carney's office said that they offer a lot of options - like a cream to lessen the Girth, or a Revision to reduce/smoothen out any imperfections, or a complete de-gloving. But they'd need to see me and their offices are located in Atlanta, which is a flight for me. As for Dr. Solomon, he offers a 1-hour consultation for a fee but after talking with their rep, he feels like I should just give it time and after we try it out and it's just not enjoyable, then for sure I will move forward on options. I think the good thing is, my worry/stress about it not fitting has gone down some. I've gotten a lot of reassuring news that it's just going to take time. And we're in no rush . Aesthetically, it's a real difference for sure. And we're both adjusting to it.

Hey man - I’ve enjoyed reading your stories and sympathize with your predicament. Getting GE is primarily exciting for the increased sexual performance. If my partner didn’t enjoy my Dick it would be devastating. That said - you got to take a pause here and let things settle, including your wife who is also likely reacting emotionally bc she is afraid she won’t enjoy sex with you. Both of you have just made a big change and now need to collect data and calmly asses. My advice is give it 6 months before doing anything. Again - we don’t know each other and I’m just an internet stranger but it seems to me (independent 3rd party) that you are moving WAY too fast.

You’ve made a big decision and there is no harm in letting it ride for a little while you survey the situation. You can always do something tomorrow but you can’t take back yesterday.

Be well.