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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 1 week ago #1308712813

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Hi all -

I'm still newish to the forum and recently had enhancements done. Since that time I've been spending a fair amount of time reading other posts in the recovery & support section and one thing which I keep wondering to myself - and please forgive me if this comes across as naïve or even insensitive - but why do so many guys go SO BIG with their fills that the result ends up looking unnatural?

I've seen a fair amount of dicks in my days [gay guy] and some of the Girth enhancements being done are so giant and bloated that there is just no mistaking that they couldn't be real. This may be a SUPER unpopular opinion and I'm sorry in advance if so. It's also just more of a general observation and not directed at any one person or treatment type.

I'm just trying to understand the rationale a bit more. I got my enhancements done because I was smaller than average and wanted to be bigger, but I also personally don't really want it to be super obvious that I got work done when all is healed and I would imagine most feel the same way? Or is it that a lot of folks just don't give a shiz that others find out and the intent is just to be as large as humanly possible for other reasons.

Thanks and appreciate the POVs.

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 1 week ago #1308712817

SouthBay612 wrote: Hi all -

I'm still newish to the forum and recently had enhancements done. Since that time I've been spending a fair amount of time reading other posts in the recovery & support section and one thing which I keep wondering to myself - and please forgive me if this comes across as naïve or even insensitive - but why do so many guys go SO BIG with their fills that the result ends up looking unnatural?

I've seen a fair amount of dicks in my days [gay guy] and some of the Girth enhancements being done are so giant and bloated that there is just no mistaking that they couldn't be real. This may be a SUPER unpopular opinion and I'm sorry in advance if so. It's also just more of a general observation and not directed at any one person or treatment type.

I'm just trying to understand the rationale a bit more. I got my enhancements done because I was smaller than average and wanted to be bigger, but I also personally don't really want it to be super obvious that I got work done when all is healed and I would imagine most feel the same way? Or is it that a lot of folks just don't give a shiz that others find out and the intent is just to be as large as humanly possible for other reasons.

Thanks and appreciate the POVs.


A few things to consider for those who do choose to go very big: Many men are in long-term relationships and/or happily married, the aesthetics are of no consequence when the goal is to provide more sexual stimulation, and added Girth provides that. These men aren't seeing multiple partners and their significant other is usually aware of the decision and ultimately benefits from it.

Another reason would be for those who have always desired to achieve a certain benchmark that they otherwise couldn't achieve through PE exercises (e.g. pumping, Hanging, Clamping, etc.). They are willing to sacrifice some aesthetics if it means hitting that "coveted 6-Inch circumference."

Some may be suffering from dysmorphia, and in these instances I would not recommend male Phalloplasty.

Lastly, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the penises you've seen here aren't as obvious to women as they might be to gay men who have seen exponentially as many penises in their lifetime. I personally think most enhanced units on this site can be passable to the unknowing or unsuspecting woman.

There may even be other motivations as well, like alternative lifestyles and such. In the end we may never understand everyone's motivation. What perplexed me for the longest time wasn't why men wanted to go so BIG, but why men of average or above-average endowment even contemplated penis enlargement to begin with. I've learned over the years no longer to judge (not saying you have) and that until I'm in their shoes, I'll simply learn to respect their adult-made decision(s).

I definitely went on "the big side" especially relative to my length. My motivation? I was never going to be the longest she's ever had, but if I can be the "thickest" she's most likely ever going to have, it makes it all the more worthwhile for a variety of reasons. It's like entering the Top 1% realm, where 1 out of 100 people in the room are as thick or thicker than me, and the other 99 aren't. This is not much different than picking up a date in a Porsche 911 knowing that in all likelihood she hasn't been picked up in a nicer car, it's the ambition of achieving whatever competitive edge you can in the dating market. Keeping yourself well groomed, teeth straight & clean, and fashionable are lesser expensive means of the same kind of idea.
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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 5 days ago #1308712847

Hi!

Regarding irregularities i judge one round is not better than multiple rounds - i don't think multiple rounds make more irregularities necessarily (i think in each round Doc and you try to 'correct' irregularities of the last round, and never succeed perfectly - altough i have seen some very nice enhanced penisses here, i judge more symetrical and stuff than mine.)

Regarding being found out or it looking unnatural - i prefer looking a bit unnatural but much more Girth / having a very small Girth penis.

Or do you mean Ratio of Penishead-size and shaft-size? Personally i think in most people, eg myself, i have to do very many rounds till this is a ratio-problem / not aesthetic to me.

Btw if you click my profile page and look at my created topics, i thought very long and hard / obsessively how big i would like to be and why, there are some special topics and also it's mentioned in my journal, if you are interested in motivations of why and how big

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 3 days ago #1308712875

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Skeptical_One wrote:

SouthBay612 wrote: Hi all -

I'm still newish to the forum and recently had enhancements done. Since that time I've been spending a fair amount of time reading other posts in the recovery & support section and one thing which I keep wondering to myself - and please forgive me if this comes across as naïve or even insensitive - but why do so many guys go SO BIG with their fills that the result ends up looking unnatural?

I've seen a fair amount of dicks in my days [gay guy] and some of the girth enhancements being done are so giant and bloated that there is just no mistaking that they couldn't be real. This may be a SUPER unpopular opinion and I'm sorry in advance if so. It's also just more of a general observation and not directed at any one person or treatment type.

I'm just trying to understand the rationale a bit more. I got my enhancements done because I was smaller than average and wanted to be bigger, but I also personally don't really want it to be super obvious that I got work done when all is healed and I would imagine most feel the same way? Or is it that a lot of folks just don't give a shiz that others find out and the intent is just to be as large as humanly possible for other reasons.

Thanks and appreciate the POVs.


A few things to consider for those who do choose to go very big: Many men are in long-term relationships and/or happily married, the aesthetics are of no consequence when the goal is to provide more sexual stimulation, and added girth provides that. These men aren't seeing multiple partners and their significant other is usually aware of the decision and ultimately benefits from it.

Another reason would be for those who have always desired to achieve a certain benchmark that they otherwise couldn't achieve through PE exercises (e.g. pumping, hanging, clamping, etc.). They are willing to sacrifice some aesthetics if it means hitting that "coveted 6-inch circumference."

Some may be suffering from dysmorphia, and in these instances I would not recommend male phalloplasty.

Lastly, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the penises you've seen here aren't as obvious to women as they might be to gay men who have seen exponentially as many penises in their lifetime. I personally think most enhanced units on this site can be passable to the unknowing or unsuspecting woman.

There may even be other motivations as well, like alternative lifestyles and such. In the end we may never understand everyone's motivation. What perplexed me for the longest time wasn't why men wanted to go so BIG, but why men of average or above-average endowment even contemplated penis enlargement to begin with. I've learned over the years no longer to judge (not saying you have) and that until I'm in their shoes, I'll simply learn to respect their adult-made decision(s).

I definitely went on "the big side" especially relative to my length. My motivation? I was never going to be the longest she's ever had, but if I can be the "thickest" she's most likely ever going to have, it makes it all the more worthwhile for a variety of reasons. It's like entering the Top 1% realm, where 1 out of 100 people in the room are as thick or thicker than me, and the other 99 aren't. This is not much different than picking up a date in a Porsche 911 knowing that in all likelihood she hasn't been picked up in a nicer car, it's the ambition of achieving whatever competitive edge you can in the dating market. Keeping yourself well groomed, teeth straight & clean, and fashionable are lesser expensive means of the same kind of idea.


Thanks SO! That's a good point on some not doing it for aesthetics. TBH that was my primary motivation so this is likely why I wonder the most.

Also likely true on being less obvious to many women. Certainly I would have NO IDEA if a woman got vaginal work done.

As I was thinking further and in my follow-up appointments this week I think there is also the common desire to keep improving as @Dream mentioned in his post - whether fixing irregularities or just adding a 'bit more' size. I could certainly see myself doing that. This is why people get addicted to surgeries, or even bodybuilding, etc... the quest for perfection!

Thanks for the insightful response.

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 3 days ago #1308712876

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Dream wrote: Hi!

Regarding irregularities i judge one round is not better than multiple rounds - i don't think multiple rounds make more irregularities necessarily (i think in each round Doc and you try to 'correct' irregularities of the last round, and never succeed perfectly - altough i have seen some very nice enhanced penisses here, i judge more symetrical and stuff than mine.)

Regarding being found out or it looking unnatural - i prefer looking a bit unnatural but much more girth / having a very small girth penis.

Or do you mean Ratio of Penishead-size and shaft-size? Personally i think in most people, eg myself, i have to do very many rounds till this is a ratio-problem / not aesthetic to me.

Btw if you click my profile page and look at my created topics, i thought very long and hard / obsessively how big i would like to be and why, there are some special topics and also it's mentioned in my journal, if you are interested in motivations of why and how big


@Dream just saw your most recent recovery thread and it looks great! You're all bruised up but I do not think I would be able to tell that you've had work done otherwise. I think perhaps ratio of shaft to head is part of it - i.e., if very (very) girthy at the base and almost forming a triangle downward to the head - I have never seen a real penis with this shape.

BTW - what's your flaccid & erect length if you don't mind me asking? Couldn't find it on the thread. Looks like you're on the longer side - this also helps with symmetry I think.

Appreciate the response. Also very insightful for me!

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Dream wrote: Hi there, i am 15.5cm x 13.5cm (last round, current round it's still swollen)

Some threads where i talk about my 'why' / old threads that could be interesting regarding that question:
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...like-them-to-be.html
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...wanna-be-bigger.html
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...-rough-sex-anal.html
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...female-pleasure.html
phalloboards.info/forum/general-discussi...o-another-round.html


Wow - a lot of really good analysis here. I've only just skimmed everything and will dig in a bit more later, but for a guy who likes to give anal, did you reach any conclusions about ideal girth for anal only? Seems like optimizing for anal & oral is quite different than optimizing for vaginal penetration.

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 3 days ago #1308712884

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SouthBay612 wrote:

Dream wrote: Hi there, i am 15.5cm x 13.5cm (last round, current round it's still swollen)

Some threads where i talk about my 'why' / old threads that could be interesting regarding that question:
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...like-them-to-be.html
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...wanna-be-bigger.html
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...-rough-sex-anal.html
phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...female-pleasure.html
phalloboards.info/forum/general-discussi...o-another-round.html


Wow - a lot of really good analysis here. I've only just skimmed everything and will dig in a bit more later, but for a guy who likes to give anal, did you reach any conclusions about ideal girth for anal only? Seems like optimizing for anal & oral is quite different than optimizing for vaginal penetration.


Also now after reading your threads & seeing your results I suddenly want to go bigger. Lol. It begins...

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 3 days ago #1308712885

Wow - a lot of really good analysis here. I've only just skimmed everything and will dig in a bit more later, but for a guy who likes to give anal, did you reach any conclusions about ideal Girth for anal only? Seems like optimizing for anal & oral is quite different than optimizing for vaginal penetration.


Yes, totally!

My conclusion:
For ideal anal Girth i am already too girthy at 13.5cm!
One round before at 12.5cm was much better.
Two women specifically stopped giving me anal cause after that change. Cause it hurt them too much.
One new woman that says she loves anal, i could only fit the small penishead in.

But: i imagine guys in general can take much more than women

Btw some female pornstars say they can take much more analy than vaginally, but i imagine these are anal professionals and do a ton of pre-stretching

I dont optimize for oral cause i dont like it much. Sure i guess i feel more teeth now, but no problem yet them taking it in mouth.

Yes i like anal a lot, and i guess i like it cause it is a bit of a struggle to get it in, and because it feels so tight. Now if i get a girthier penis and these things also happen vaginally, i think i am a happy camper. And thats not the case now.

I think the 'main' thing for women is vaginal, i guess 60-70% dont really like anal, perhaps 20% really enjoy it (i should look my diary and get more accurate numbers).
So i also want to optimize for vaginal.

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 3 days ago #1308712887

Dream wrote:

My conclusion:
For ideal anal Girth i am already too girthy at 13.5cm!
One round before at 12.5cm was much better.


I quit at 14.9cm (5.875 in) Girth.
My wife has always been a big fan of anal, and we do it a couple of times a week. I am to the point that it takes time and effort to "get things going".
My end goal was to be 15.4cm (6 in). But after my last round several years ago she basically said okay, it is time to stop. She has played with butt plugs that are that large, but for "activity" she had reached her limit. I am a big fan of anal too. So what the woman says goes!

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 3 days ago #1308712888

I agree with @Dream . The main motivator for us straight men going for these large sizes is the desire to stimulate the vagina the way these girls deserve to be stimulated. So often do you hear of girls not being able to reach orgasm by vaginal stimulation. Heartbreaking. These girls deserve to be worshiped and pleasured and gaining girth is a great way to provide that pleasure for them. Our motivation is demonstrated by going to sizes that limit us in other aspects of sex that is predominantly focused on our pleasure (anal/oral). We are willing to sacrifice some of those aspect of sex in order to provide more stimulation vaginally for our girls. Hope this helps put things into perspective.

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Why so big? (ducks for cover) 10 months 2 days ago #1308712900

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Dream wrote:

Wow - a lot of really good analysis here. I've only just skimmed everything and will dig in a bit more later, but for a guy who likes to give anal, did you reach any conclusions about ideal Girth for anal only? Seems like optimizing for anal & oral is quite different than optimizing for vaginal penetration.

Yes, totally!

My conclusion:
For ideal anal Girth i am already too girthy at 13.5cm!
One round before at 12.5cm was much better.
Two women specifically stopped giving me anal cause after that change. Cause it hurt them too much.
One new woman that says she loves anal, i could only fit the small penishead in.


Ah, perfect. I'm at 5" / 12.7cm right now. Anal-optimized!

But: i imagine guys in general can take much more than women

Btw some female pornstars say they can take much more analy than vaginally, but i imagine these are anal professionals and do a ton of pre-stretching


I think it def varies based on experience level (obviously), ability to relax, and anatomy. I've noticed some guys can just naturally take bigger and enjoy it more - true blood "size queens." Others can only do it if they use poppers or some other kind of relaxant. I suspect same with women.

I dont optimize for oral cause i dont like it much. Sure i guess i feel more teeth now, but no problem yet them taking it in mouth.


Same, actually.

Yes i like anal a lot, and i guess i like it cause it is a bit of a struggle to get it in, and because it feels so tight. Now if i get a girthier penis and these things also happen vaginally, i think i am a happy camper. And thats not the case now.

I think the 'main' thing for women is vaginal, i guess 60-70% dont really like anal, perhaps 20% really enjoy it (i should look my diary and get more accurate numbers).
So i also want to optimize for vaginal.


Yeah, makes total sense. Thanks Dream...

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EricPig wrote: I agree with @Dream . The main motivator for us straight men going for these large sizes is the desire to stimulate the vagina the way these girls deserve to be stimulated. So often do you hear of girls not being able to reach orgasm by vaginal stimulation. Heartbreaking. These girls deserve to be worshiped and pleasured and gaining girth is a great way to provide that pleasure for them. Our motivation is demonstrated by going to sizes that limit us in other aspects of sex that is predominantly focused on our pleasure (anal/oral). We are willing to sacrifice some of those aspect of sex in order to provide more stimulation vaginally for our girls. Hope this helps put things into perspective.


Makes total sense. Thanks @EricPig

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