TOPIC: Pmma erect gain more than flaccid - why ?

Haven't been to these boards in a long time. I had one round of PMMA with Dr C about 7 or 8 years ago. I can't remember what concentration or volume I had, but the result was pretty good :

Erect Girth
Original 4.7"
Now 5.8"
Gain 1.1"

My Flaccid Girth is harder to ascertain as the size varies from one minute to the next due to anxiety, temperature and physical exertion. And sometimes for no apparent reason it just shrinks. Normally it's about 4" but varies between 3.7" and 4.2". (hate it when it's 3.7). And from memory my original Flaccid Girth probably averaged around 3.5" So:

Flaccid Girth
Original 3.5"
Now 4"
Gain 0.5"

So what intrigues me is the fact that I seem to have grown far more Erect than Flaccid. My Erect Girth has increased 1.1", whereas the Flaccid only 0.5". This is counter intuitive. I have always assumed the new collagen which is created by the PMMA doesn't expand when we become Erect. So why would I have a bigger increase in the Erect state ?

Also if you believe size surveys they suggest a Flaccid Girth of around 4" and Erect Girth of 5". That's a ratio of 1.25, whereas my ratio is 1.45

Anyone have any ideas what's going on here ?

I'm also curious to know how much others have gained in the Flaccid state compared to Erect.

I surprised you got no answers to this with the fact that you got a 1” gain in 1 round of PMMA. It usually takes guys maybe 2-3 rounds to get 1 Inch. Do you remember the concentration and amount you received? Do you have a posting on the other forum documenting your progress? I’d want to take a look at it.

Well this is interesting. I did find my original posts on PhalloBoards 2. My previous name was Mikehok and my first report post op was 17 Oct 2011. And it seems I had forgotten some of the numbers with the passing of time. It was actually 2011 that I did the procedure.

In several of my posts a few weeks after the procedure I report my new Girth was 5.5", however I am definitely 5.8" now, I have measured many times. In fact on one occasion recently I was 6" after taking Cialis. So it looks as if I must have gained more over time, which seems odd.

Also I originally started out at 4.7" but I had a near disaster procedure when I went to Serbia for PLGA scaffolds. Unfortunately I had an unusual allergic reaction and had further surgery to have it removed. This was a traumatic time in my life. However after that incident for a while my penis shrunk considerably for some unknown reason, so I started pumping quite intensely during the healing period and amazingly I managed to gain somewhere around a quarter of an Inch in Girth. So by that stage I was around 5.1".

Apparently I received 17ml of 10%

So it looks as if I gained approx 0.5" initially from PMMA and over time I must have become bigger still, which is a bit of a mystery to me.

It also appears my original Flaccid was 3.5 to 3.9, say average of 3.7. Now my average Flaccid is 4". So I've gained only 0.3" in Flaccid but around 0.8" Erect. This makes little sense to me.

I Definitely remember the mikehok name from PB2. So you was one of the first round of people to revive PMMA if it was around 2011. I’m surprised you’ve had that much gain. 10% usually don’t do much. Did you continue to pump after recieving PMMA? That could have helped with growth as well.

No I didn't pump at all after getting PMMA.

Generally I don't think pumping yields permanent results but on this occasion it did. May have had something to do with being in a healing state, I have no idea though really.

I stopped posting on PB not long after getting PMMA as I wanted to try and put the whole size thing behind me. However as I've since learned once you've been affected by this issue it's difficult to forget it entirely.

In the years that followed the procedure I had one or two women tell me I had a good size, that's something that never happened before. However I moved to Asia a few years ago and met a girl who had been quite promiscuous. She made a few negative comments which messed with my head again.

Jim54321 wrote: No I didn't pump at all after getting PMMA.

Generally I don't think pumping yields permanent results but on this occasion it did. May have had something to do with being in a healing state, I have no idea though really.

I stopped posting on PB not long after getting PMMA as I wanted to try and put the whole size thing behind me. However as I've since learned once you've been affected by this issue it's difficult to forget it entirely.

In the years that followed the procedure I had one or two women tell me I had a good size, that's something that never happened before. However I moved to Asia a few years ago and met a girl who had been quite promiscuous. She made a few negative comments which messed with my head again.

What negative be comments did she make. Did she say it was small?

Not exactly, she has at some point told me I was bigger than average. But one time she started talking about some guy she said she had really good sex with. When I asked why, she said something to do with size and shape. She also told me my glans were small.

Honestly I'd rather meet a woman who wasn't so focused on superficial stuff like this. For many women and even men sex has a big emotional component and things like size do not completely determine whether the quality of the sex. I mean looking back on the women I've had sex with in no way do I equate vaginal tightness with the best sex.

But her comments are completely dumb and totally lack sensitivity. She wants me to have a relationship with her but comes out with shit like this. If you want someone to stick around it's usually better to make them feel good about themselves, not the opposite. I even put it to her recently that she has slight sociopathic tendencies, which she agreed.

On another note, I took a Cialis last night and measured at 6" mid shaft EG. I had recently been taking HGH for a short time and I'm wondering if this has given me another 0.2"

The big thing I'm curious about it whether you've had any side effects after ten years. You've had it longer than almost anyone currently active on this board.

The only issue really has been nodules, I've got about 5 that developed with a year of having the procedure. The largest is about the size of half a pea and is only noticeable in the Erect state. They haven't got any worse over time and I've had no other issues.

2 women commented on them and I just brushed it off. Others may have noticed but never said anything.

My penis is now widest midshaft, the base being slightly smaller. When having sex I am aware of having to push a bit harder to get the midshaft section in.

Jim54321 wrote: The only issue really has been nodules, I've got about 5 that developed with a year of having the procedure. The largest is about the size of half a pea and is only noticeable in the Erect state. They haven't got any worse over time and I've had no other issues.

2 women commented on them and I just brushed it off. Others may have noticed but never said anything.

My penis is now widest midshaft, the base being slightly smaller. When having sex I am aware of having to push a bit harder to get the midshaft section in.

Why do you have to push harder with the mid shaft? Is it because it’s wider?

basically yes

The Erect gain have to be more. –> Think about it - If not, the filler wouldn‘t be compressed through your Erection.

So let me try to be clearer.

As we know the body creates collagen to encapsulate the PMMA microspheres. This collagen is what gives up the extra volume and hence extra Girth.

However I am assuming this collagen is not the same as normal erectile tissue which expands greatly when getting an Erection. I am assuming the volume of this collagen is more or less the same whether Flaccid or Erect.

If my assumption is correct the same volume is added to either the Flaccid penis or the Erect penis. So the increase in Girth should be at least the same for the Flaccid as it is for the Erect. In fact it could be argued the Flaccid should gain more since it is shorter and there fore the collagen is covering a shorter length.

However this doesn't seem to be what happens. I think most people gain more in the Erect state. At least for me that happened.

Anyone have theories for this ?

It s not the same volume which is added to the Erect state. While you have an Erection die PMMA-Volume gets compressed.

Yeah everyone gains a little bit more in Erect state.