Alright y'all, just wanted to share because somehow I've decided talking to strangers on the internet about enlarging my Dick is what I need right now! Weird but I appreciate this forum and want to share my experience and somehow feel that if I write it down and put it out there I'll be committed.
From my research here and elsewhere I'm planning on doing the full surgical length procedure, and hopefully the glans procedure as well, with Dr. Carney at Morganstern. I'm calling in tomorrow to set it all in motion. Hopefully I can get scheduled for the spring or early summer.
Personal BS feel free to skip:
I am going to post my measurements below which is somehow still embarrassing for me to do anonymously on the internet but this has always been my biggest obstacle in life. My penis size is constantly on my mind and has affected my confidence my entire life. Let me tell you, middle and high school boys are not known for restraint in mocking each other's size in the locker room after practice. Especially in small town America! I'm 26 with a Masters degree and I'm fairly successful in my career, and so, I am going to do what I can to make me feel confident with my body and try to remove this constant thought in my head of wishing I had a bigger penis. I am a well adjusted and emotionally mature person and I'm not holding onto hurt feelings from HS lol. I reference this because it was the only time I have ever let anyone but my significant others see me naked and it sticks in my mind as the moment I realized I would struggle with this throughout my life. I'm honestly terrified of messing up what I do have but the potential psychological benefits far outweigh the risks.
For the record, I've seen some guys complaining about the cost of the procedure for "just an Inch of FL gain" but let me tell you I would gladly pay double for an Inch. Guys with this mindset absolutely do not have small dicks or have any inkling of an idea of what it's like to be small.
If anyone has similar stats to me and has gone through a similar procedure I'd like to hear or see (so weird to ask but proof is proof) your results. The pictures on the Rejuvall site, and correct me if I'm wrong but Rejuvall is the Morganstern developed procedure, seem too good to be true. I see pictures of micropenis enlargements that look exactly like me before but the after is just unbelievable. If those pics are an accurate indication of what I could end up with I wouldn't have words. So, feel free to crush my hopes and dreams with your guy's thoughts on what is realistic based on my stats below. So, what do you think is my realistic outcome?
I am completely inexperienced with any kind of Hanging, stretching, or weights. I have read that you are required to stretch 3 weeks prior to and for some time after the procedure but my hope is that this won't be a new permanent thing I do. Is there a benefit to longer term stretching before the procedure or would the recommended 3 weeks get me the max benefit of stretching?
I am fairly certain I fall into the micropenis category based on the definition provided on the Rejuvall site. Correct me if I'm wrong. That's just such a negative term and I wish I never learned it because, wow, I know I am small but y'all really gonna hit me with micropenis ffs!
Flacid Length: almost 2.5" but varies greatly in the cold and when I am correctly using my adhd meds it's basically a "button."
Erect Length: nearly exactly 5" and I am fine with this. It's not what I want but it could be worse and my goal is FL gains. I just want to feel like I have something in my pants! I want a bulge and ffs I want my damn underwear to fill up. Every morning I get dressed and the crotch fabric is just empty. It sucks and it's a constant reminder. Something small guys deal with that has probably never crossed an average guys mind is how frustrating and even painful it is to have your jeans rub and chafe the head of your penis. An average sized penis hangs and the head points down. I am constantly shoving my hands down my pants to pull on my Dick to try and make it hang so the head is not pointing straight out and getting rubbed by the fabric.
Circumference: I have never measured this but I estimate < 3."
Lastly, I am moderately toned at 6' and 165 lbs. so it's not as if losing any weight would greatly benefit me.
Y'all saved me from a horrible pneuma mistake so if nothing else I am grateful for that. I am posting hoping to find someone with similar stats to me who has gone through this experience. Most of the pics I've seen here are of guys who have insanely nice dicks and want to be even bigger. But thank you for reading my overshare and I'll post my experience when I go through the procedure!
Hey man, thanks for sharing your situation. First off, if you're 5" Erect you do not in any way, shape, or form have a micropenis. An actual micropenis is like your Flaccid length when Erect. So don' affix that label to yourself.
Secondly, from what I know of this proecedure you sound like an ideal candidate. You're mostly going for Flaccid gains and that's what it stands the best chance of giving you.
Third, if I invested all that money into a lenght procedure I'd definitely keep stretching afterwards as part of a permanent standard operating procedure to ensure that I cement / continue getting the gains. Why not? It's cheap, not difficult, and only requires dedication. Then again, I'm stretching and Hanging everyday anyway, so make what you will of this advice.
There are physicians popping up left and right nowadays offering Girth and/or length, and as someone who has monitored this scene for over a decade, it worries me. Fortunately this industry still has a few genuinely talented physicians, Dr. Carney being one of them, so that's a good start.
I'd be careful to assume your circumference without having ever measured it. If people have a hard time judging penis length with their eye, I promise you circumference is that much trickier. As Jack pointed out, your penis is not qualified for micro-designation; Flaccid size varies for men, and a lot of guys turtle and its normal.
Either way, it appears you've been doing your research and I am looking forward to following your progress reports.
Thanks for posting. I will say, I did look at doing the length procedure as well. But just couldn't do it. Horror stories of having to hang forever, and in some cases actually losing length. (not with Morganstern, but elsewhere)
Have you looked at fillers at all? Since you are happy with Erect length, I know for a fact that Ellanse and PMMA help with Flaccid hang (and obviously Girth) WAY less invasive, very little after care (after the first few weeks)
Might want to check and see how having fillers would impact doing the length procedure after the fillers and give it a shot. HUGE confidence boost.
Thanks for sharing. I'm right with you! I scheduled the ligament release procedure with Morganstern last week (after having a phone consultation with them in December, a ton of back and fourth emails, and lots of time researching and stewing on the decision). I'll be getting the lig release done in March.
My stats are similar to yours. I'm obsessed with wanting to be bigger and look hung when naked, but I haven't ever considered myself to be less than average. I think you could try to look at this procedure more of as a "body enhancement" rather than "correcting of a deficiency", as I don't think you or I are lacking anything that the average guy is supposed to have.
I've been stretching on and off for the past 2 years or so. It's definitely helped with Flaccid retraction, but I'm not sure if I gained much real length. My Erect length measures 1/2" longer when measured bone-pressed, however, the stretching brought my Erection angle down, causing a bone-pressed measurement to contact the bone in a different spot, so I'm also not sure how much of this is real new length. My understanding is that successful stretching just IS slow (for guys who stretch naturally without surgery), so that's what interested me in the ligament release procedure--being able to stretch more of the penis should speed up gains. Once you get a routine down it's not that bad. The Foreskin restoration community has a lot of good ideas for stretching devices that you can conceal under your clothes, are easy to take on and off, and have "safety" features to prevent them from falling out of your pants if they become detached. The only difference is that their attachments grip the penis such to stretch the outer skin, where as we want to grip the penis behind the head to stretch the inner "core" of the penis for length.
Have you looked into why your meds cause so much retraction or if there's anything you could do about that?
Really excited to follow your journey on this one. I've been in the exact mindset, my entire teenage and adult life. Similar stats, nearly exact actually, and I finally broke down and confessed how insecure and unhappy I was with my size, to my soon to be wife. Mentioned that I have been researching for years, and I'm leaning towards the permaxl or megamaxl length and Girth surgery just like you. Fiance totally does not see eye to eye on it, thinking I'm at a great size, but it's more than that. It's for our own sanity and self confidence that we need this. It's never not on my mind, just as you said, so it will be nice to feel the relief. I didnt sign up for the premium account, so I can't see photos, but I'm thinking about it. It's weird as hell trying to find photos of other guys dicks, but it's for my own research to find the best & similar scenarios to my own. Can't wait to find out more from you! Really hoping that you provide updates along the way. Thanks for being brave to tackle this, and hopefully it can give us some great motivation to pull the trigger, too. Thanks so much!
What stretcher are you going to use after the procedure? I own several popular stretching devices and I’ve tried to use them on and off for years with no success. Each device has major downsides that I couldn’t get over unfortunately.
Morganstern sent me something that they call PSX2. It's basically a less-fancy version of the Phallosan, with tension applied via a leg strap. Their instructions say to work your way up to wearing the device 8 to 10 hours per day after the procedure. I tried on the device, and it seems to apply surprisingly mild tension, so it'd definitely be tolerable to wear for that length of time--I think the bigger issue would be the inconvenience of having to take it on and off.
I've also recently started Hanging using a Bib Hanger. I want to ask Dr. Carney's opinion regarding Hanging as a means of post-surgical stretching, as it seems like the added tension would be much more effective.
"My understanding is that successful stretching just IS slow (for guys who stretch naturally without surgery), so that's what interested me in the ligament release procedure--being able to stretch more of the penis should speed up gains." @madmatt
Yes, that's what got me to start looking at Morganstern's lig release procedure as well. For dudes who already have a stretching routine, this could be a way to expedite the gains / gain more than what you could have otherwise. I will have to look into it a lot more but i'm really looking forward to following yours and @jaymar