TOPIC: Ellanse w/Dr C.

I won't give an in depth journal of this experience, many others have done that, so if you are going to Avanti Derma, you should have a good idea of what to expect. Clean, bright VERY professional office, Dr C and Ian are amazing. Honestly, you couldn't ask for a better experience.

I have been on the boards for quite a while. And besides a half assed attempt at manual PE, the only other procedure I've had is the PRP + Stem Cells. Which, by the way, I need to go back and amend my post on. I thought I might have realized some small gains from that, but although it felt heavier and looked great for about 2 months, it eventually all went away.

I've been going back and forth on the PMMA idea for quite some time. But I just can't get past the fact that if something does go wrong, it's surgery to remove (and even then it's not a guarantee) I researched the other fillers. Almost ended up doing HA, but the "squishy" reports made me balk.. and in addition to that, some report only lasting 12 months.

Enter Ellanse. Seems to be as close to perfect for my situation as is available right now, or anytime in the near future. I scheduled a business trip to San Diego with a three day stay in TJ for the procedure.

Had a nice conversation with Dr C before the procedure, and as everyone else has mentioned, they opened the packages in front of me and gave me one of the lot number stickers so I could have it for my records. Very professional. The procedure itself wasn't bad at all. Numbing crème was applied, blood was drawn for PRP, and a few lidocaine injections that weren't fun, but the actual injections of the Ellanse wasn't bad at all, just feel the pressure etc.

I was originally scheduled for 12 CC's, but as we got to the end, Dr C asked if I cared if we did one more. Being a little longer than average (7.75 BPEL) there was a low spot that needed to be filled in, I agreed (obviously) so, ended up with 13cc's total.

Ian showed me how to massage everything, but honestly, I have no idea if I'm doing it right. It so hard to tell where the low and high spots are due to the swelling and bruising. I did get the LED treatment, that's supposed to help reduce swelling quicker, so we'll see if that helps. Hopefully before the 5 days are up (the mallable phase of the Ellanse) I'll get it reduced down to where I can tell what's the new me, and the swelling .

So, I find myself in my room at the Grand typing up a report for my Phalloboard brethren, while trying to sit forward on my chair enough that the noose Hanger can hang off the edge of the chair. And wonder, what the Hell did I just do? By all accounts I have an above average Cock. What drives us to go do this extreme? I think in my case, I was such a Grower, I wanted a bulge super insecure about that I guess. Don't really care about increasing Erect size that much. Afraid of pricing myself out of the market for oral etc.

I worry seeing my Cock the way it is now that it will ever be normal again. I know the swelling will go down, but I don't want to be trapped in this cycle of coming down for "touch ups" etc.

Anyway, overall pleased with the experience, I guess a little bit of self doubt is creeping in, I really believe this is more art that it is science, and I'm grateful that there were a lot of guys that went before me, so Dr C could hone his craft.

I'll upload some pictures as we go. But no lie, the first couple days of bruising and swelling are a little nerve racking.

More later.

Thanks Dstern22,

We are here. Keep in touch and let us know how you are going. It is normal to be nervous at this stage!

Day three.. bruising is starting to go away. But man.. the swelling. Hard to tell what's swelling and what is product. Anyone have a timeline on when swelling will subside??

This is what kind of confused me with stretching down. It seems like it’d be better for swelling to stretch horizontal. When I got my circ they advised keeping the penis upright to reduce swelling. Obviously post op doesn’t recommend Hanging vertical for too long and some recommend not doing it at all.

What has your diet been like before and after procedure? Do you drink? Are you in good health? Are you taking any vitamins? If not, have you been out in the sun?

It’s hard to get a grasp on what’s normal for swelling on day 3. There are various reports but from what I’ve read you’re swelling definitely isn’t unordinary. If you’re saying it hasn’t gone down at all I’m just trying to troubleshoot as I’m going in October for Ellanse. You could have been doing all the right things and it’s just genetics that causes more edema.

Hyperbol wrote: This is what kind of confused me with stretching down. It seems like it’d be better for swelling to stretch horizontal. When I got my circ they advised keeping the penis upright to reduce swelling. Obviously post op doesn’t recommend Hanging vertical for too long and some recommend not doing it at all.

What has your diet been like before and after procedure? Do you drink? Are you in good health? Are you taking any vitamins? If not, have you been out in the sun?

It’s hard to get a grasp on what’s normal for swelling on day 3. There are various reports but from what I’ve read you’re swelling definitely isn’t unordinary. If you’re saying it hasn’t gone down at all I’m just trying to troubleshoot as I’m going in October for Ellanse. You could have been doing all the right things and it’s just genetics that causes more edema.

I see what you are saying about the stretching down. However, day 3 and the bruising is almost gone (80%). The swelling really does feel like edema, just fluid retention. And since it is mainly on the underside (near the glans) And their wasn’t product injected there, I’m assuming it will go away.

You read all the progress reports, but when it’s your Dick, you start to really wonder wtf you did to yourself.


Onward and upward!

Would you say that your gains seem to be worth it ? Is it a lot more bigger? Are you feeling any pain? Are you feeling excited that this is your new Girth or are you more worried about your penis health at this moment?

Hey man, its the lil dude who sat and chatted with you in the back of the van yesterday. You didnt make a mistake man! Its all part of the journey dude. And even if you dont like the results this time, thats why touch ups are the rule of thumb. This isnt a quick fix game, although the Girth gain is instant, the rest of everything else is a process. We will be good. You got this.

wannabebig1 wrote: Hey man, its the lil dude who sat and chatted with you in the back of the van yesterday. You didnt make a mistake man! Its all part of the journey dude. And even if you dont like the results this time, thats why touch ups are the rule of thumb. This isnt a quick fix game, although the Girth gain is instant, the rest of everything else is a process. We will be good. You got this.

Hey bud! Yeah, I’m better today. Everything seems to be healing up ok. Thanks for the pep talk.. just want to get past this and move on...

Just wanted to know if it was worth it man and if you feel satisfied with Girth man that’s all..I will be doing this soon so I do feel nervous about the aftercare

Drewwflexx wrote: Just wanted to know if it was worth it man and if you feel satisfied with Girth man that’s all..I will be doing this soon so I do feel nervous about the aftercare

Worth it? Definitely.. 5 to .75 increase is a huge gain and totally noticeable. I wouldn't give back my gain for anything and looking forward to going for a second round soon!

Drewwflexx wrote: Just wanted to know if it was worth it man and if you feel satisfied with Girth man that’s all..I will be doing this soon so I do feel nervous about the aftercare

Ask me again in a week or so.. when everything settles. But man, this morning, it looked WAY better and I could see the finish line. Probably end up with at least .5 in gains. Possibly a bit more. My main concern is just seeing how it settles out. (Bumps etc) I’m really not in a position to come back for touch ups etc. just taking a week off work and so forth, so hopefully this will do it. The. We’ll see how long it lasts..

Thank you noxcuse I’ll be paying attention to your thread to stay updated with your healing

Hey bro how you been feeling lately?

Doing much better.

I will post up some pics here in the next couple of days. A few thoughts... the aftercare instructions seem to be geared for PMMA, so kind of got some conflicting info between the sheet Dr. C's office gave me, what Ian said, and of course advice from other forum members.

The main problem I had was figuring out how hard to massage, and where to move product. Because of all the swelling, it was really difficult to see where it really needed to go, and I was a little worried about making some odd shape. In the end, I ended up using the noose Hanger they gave me, for as long as I could each day. Probably 5-6 hours a day or more for the first few days, then probably 3-4. And was massaging about every hour to 90 minutes. Basically stretched out, and feeling for any lumps or uneven spots.

It became a little easier to do toward the 5-7 day mark. By 7-8 days the swelling was down probably 90+%. I had ALOT on the underside under the glans. Looked like I had been pumping for a day straight. I was really worried that it wasn't going to go down. But everything went down nicely.

For sure a little panic the first day or two, but I think all of us go through that.

I'm two weeks out today, still trying to use the Hanger for 30 min to an hour a day. I've also started light pumping, just two sets of 5 min at a 5-7. I have a 2 Inch tube, and yesterday had a bit of a struggle getting it all the way in Flaccid. So yeah, that made me feel good.

I am Circumcised, and had a bit of loose skin. I post up some pictures so you can see, but when I'm Flaccid you can see a bit of a "crease" in one side, and every now and then I will get the pig in a blanked look, but I just shake it out and it's fine. (hopefully that goes away) but when Erect.. that's the art right there! Perfectly smooth, as hard as before, not squishy AT ALL, no dips or valleys. I have one hard spot at an injection point on the left side right under the glans. Wife hasn't noticed it, and it's not visible, doesn't bother me at all.

And gents, let me tell you, .50 to .75 of Girth make a HUGE difference in sex.

More later

Right now Erect I'm sitting at 6.5 (maybe a hair more) at mid shaft, and 7 inches at the base. Top is 5.85.

what was your starting Girth size