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TOPIC: Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures

Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697953

Where to start: I've had a very long history when it comes to penile enhancement. In total, I've had a scrotal webbing, multiple Girth procedures and one lengthening procedure.

Scrotal Webbing
Only mentioning this to indicate that if you do this, make sure you're doing it correctly. I had mine done from a physician who was regarded as one of the best in the U.S. and I therefore trusted his judgement. However, he did not use the Z plasty method and the webbing has since returned, but worse.

Lengthening Procedure

After having a few Girth procedures, I wanted to have a lengthening procedure done. At that point in time, everything was great and I should have left things as-is. However, I had it done regardless and the doctor, against my wishes, went through my scrotal sack to do the procedure. This resulted in an almost complete "de-gloving". Due to the prior scrotal webbing procedure, when stitching back up the underside of my penis, there was not enough skin. Afterward, the stitches split and over time, this resulted in a large scar, and worse, significant nerve damage. My dorsal nerve is still intact, but basically I have an almost numbing sensation on my skin where it feels the same way as when your arm is asleep.

Girth Procedure

I explain all this solely as background to discuss my Girth procedure. I had multiple Girth procedures done with what I thought at the time was PMMA. After reading more on this forum and seeing some of the photos, I'm now getting concerned that I was in fact injected with silicone oil. My flacid penis looks similar to those in some of the photos containing silicone oil injections.

That said, however, I had the procedures done over 3 years ago. To this day, I have not had any major complications. Everything works fine, I enjoy my size, etc. There's some discoloration on the surface level of the penis, but that is it. After reading this forum and Dr. C's description of silicone oil as "a ticking timebomb" though, I'm now gravely concerned. So my questions are twofold:

1. How is it possible to determine whether it is silicone oil?

2. What is the process to correct silicone oil injections after this much time as passed?

3. Will that correction result in permanent damage?

Whenever this topic comes up on here, it seems like people get overly side tracked with various other arguments, so I want to be abundantly clear in my messaging: please only respond to this question if you know the actual answer or have seen such procedures done.

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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697954

I wouldn't attempt to have silicone removed unless it's necessary. I think the chances of a problem occurring due to Removal surgery are higher than if you just leave it alone. Removing it might result in the need for a skin graft and you really don't want that.

You sound like a Dan Salas victim.

Thanks for sharing.

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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697956

Thanks. I guess I should mention two other things: I've been thinking about having other procedures done soon to try and regain some of the feeling that I lost. Specifically, I'm looking at a stem cell injection to Repair some of the nerve damage.

Next, when you're referring to a skin graft, do you mean a dermal graft for the penile shaft or are you referring to something else?

What are the complications involved with having it removed? Is it simply draining it or something else?

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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697957

So I think that probably goes towards my original question: How do I determine if it's silicone oil in the first place?

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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697958

R24556 wrote: So I think that probably goes towards my original question: How do I determine if it's silicone oil in the first place?


Could you tell us the Doctor or Clinic who injected you with the alleged "PMMA" ? This will help since we generally have a good idea of what most reputable (or infamous) practitioners employ for girth enhancement and could at least better narrow down what you have.

Pictures don't tell the whole story, but if you are comfortable sharing those, that can help. If you prefer myself & Hoddle (who's also a forum Moderator) to review them privately, send the photo to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - it'll be 100% confidential.

As far as other options to determine what you have ... if it were silicone oil, it'll come out like puss, and wont even require a biopsy (unless there is concern for infection, etc). See this video to see what I mean:
phalloboards.info/forum/avanti-derma-dr-...of-silicone-oil.html
(I'm assuming you've seen the video since you mentioned Dr. C, but I wanted to point out how easily silicone oil could be identified)

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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697962

R24556 wrote: So I think that probably goes towards my original question: How do I determine if it's silicone oil in the first place?


I don't think they'd be able to tell via an MRI scan. Silicone is an oil, but it will still stimulate collagen, so it would be hard to distinguish it from other fillers on a scan I'd imagine. So I guess a biopsy would be the most likely method. But you'd really need to ask a medical professional or hope that someone who actually know what they are talking about (one of our sponsors or an informed poster), see's this thread.

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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697963

R24556 wrote: Thanks. I guess I should mention two other things: I've been thinking about having other procedures done soon to try and regain some of the feeling that I lost. Specifically, I'm looking at a stem cell injection to Repair some of the nerve damage.

Next, when you're referring to a skin graft, do you mean a dermal graft for the penile shaft or are you referring to something else?

What are the complications involved with having it removed? Is it simply draining it or something else?


The main complications can be tissue loss via Necrosis, scarring and infection. They might not be able to remove the silicone and retain the shaft skin, so a skin graft, using skin from your thigh, might be needed to replace the shaft skin. This will be even less sensitive than the skin you currently have. It will also be less aesthetically pleasing. I know Dr Solomon has experience removing silicone and I've recently see photos of a successful Removal which he performed. So it's probably a good idea to consult with him, as I think he is currently offering free skype consults.

I think any surgery is only going to make the issue with lack of feeling worse. How invasive in the stem cell treatment? If it isn't beneath the dermal layer, then I don't think the fact you have filler is a problem. As far as I can see, the only concern I'd have with you having the filler, is that if the stem cell treatment is injected into the same layer, then it has potential to introduce bacteria and you really don't want to get an infection with a permanent filler.

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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697967

hoddle10 wrote:

R24556 wrote: Thanks. I guess I should mention two other things: I've been thinking about having other procedures done soon to try and regain some of the feeling that I lost. Specifically, I'm looking at a stem cell injection to Repair some of the nerve damage.

Next, when you're referring to a skin graft, do you mean a dermal graft for the penile shaft or are you referring to something else?

What are the complications involved with having it removed? Is it simply draining it or something else?


The main complications can be tissue loss via Necrosis, scarring and infection. They might not be able to remove the silicone and retain the shaft skin, so a skin graft, using skin from your thigh, might be needed to replace the shaft skin. This will be even less sensitive than the skin you currently have. It will also be less aesthetically pleasing. I know Dr Solomon has experience removing silicone and I've recently see photos of a successful Removal which he performed. So it's probably a good idea to consult with him, as I think he is currently offering free skype consults.

I think any surgery is only going to make the issue with lack of feeling worse. How invasive in the stem cell treatment? If it isn't beneath the dermal layer, then I don't think the fact you have filler is a problem. As far as I can see, the only concern I'd have with you having the filler, is that if the stem cell treatment is injected into the same layer, then it has potential to introduce bacteria and you really don't want to get an infection with a permanent filler.


I'll get an update but I believe Dr. Solomon's free consultations were during the Stay-At-Home/Quarantine phase as a courtesy, it may be back to regular rates now. I don't recall his default pricing but as soon as I find out I'll update it here and on a separate thread.

I'm with Hoddle on this one too, short of a Doctor's Order (one who's quite familiar with filler complications), I would do nothing at all, which includes future enhancements. I know Dr. C may have said "ticking time bomb," but I'm not sure that it always has to be. He may have been using hyperbole to discourage members from considering the procedure altogether (although that's my impression, maybe he can chime in and clarify), because when complications do happen, they aren't pretty.

Your best bet would be to get multiple opinions, since Hoddle & I are no medical experts and we're chiming in from experience/forum knowledge. I'd recommend both Dr. Casavantes AND Dr. Solomon as I know both have seen their fair share of silicone-filled penises.
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Silicone Oil - How to determine and restorative procedures 2 years 3 months ago #1308697973

Skeptical One wrote:

hoddle10 wrote:

R24556 wrote: Thanks. I guess I should mention two other things: I've been thinking about having other procedures done soon to try and regain some of the feeling that I lost. Specifically, I'm looking at a stem cell injection to Repair some of the nerve damage.

Next, when you're referring to a skin graft, do you mean a dermal graft for the penile shaft or are you referring to something else?

What are the complications involved with having it removed? Is it simply draining it or something else?


The main complications can be tissue loss via Necrosis, scarring and infection. They might not be able to remove the silicone and retain the shaft skin, so a skin graft, using skin from your thigh, might be needed to replace the shaft skin. This will be even less sensitive than the skin you currently have. It will also be less aesthetically pleasing. I know Dr Solomon has experience removing silicone and I've recently see photos of a successful Removal which he performed. So it's probably a good idea to consult with him, as I think he is currently offering free skype consults.

I think any surgery is only going to make the issue with lack of feeling worse. How invasive in the stem cell treatment? If it isn't beneath the dermal layer, then I don't think the fact you have filler is a problem. As far as I can see, the only concern I'd have with you having the filler, is that if the stem cell treatment is injected into the same layer, then it has potential to introduce bacteria and you really don't want to get an infection with a permanent filler.


I'll get an update but I believe Dr. Solomon's free consultations were during the Stay-At-Home/Quarantine phase as a courtesy, it may be back to regular rates now. I don't recall his default pricing but as soon as I find out I'll update it here and on a separate thread.

I'm with Hoddle on this one too, short of a Doctor's Order (one who's quite familiar with filler complications), I would do nothing at all, which includes future enhancements. I know Dr. C may have said "ticking time bomb," but I'm not sure that it always has to be. He may have been using hyperbole to discourage members from considering the procedure altogether (although that's my impression, maybe he can chime in and clarify), because when complications do happen, they aren't pretty.

Your best bet would be to get multiple opinions, since Hoddle & I are no medical experts and we're chiming in from experience/forum knowledge. I'd recommend both Dr. Casavantes AND Dr. Solomon as I know both have seen their fair share of silicone-filled penises.
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Speak for yourself! Here in the UK we have something known as the Cub Scouts. And when we weren't being molested, by the middle aged men who run these things, we learned skills and when a certain proficiency was acquired we were rewarded with a badge. I am the proud owner of an "Emergency Aid" badge, which is a far more prestigious and hard to achieve medical qualification than anything Dr Loria has!

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