gamblinsam wrote: oh really? I did talk to them on the phone and they said the change in erection angle is an unavoidable side effect of the surgery. I got the information from Dr. Carney's post here:
Where he describes the 'looseness' at the base of the penis after the procedure. When I spoke to the rep on the phone he said that you can't have normal sex in certain positions unless you hold your cock with your hand but although I tried asking him to describe it several times I wasn't really satisfied that I fully understood what I would be getting myself into in considering this procedure. Thus I really want to speak to someone, preferably a few people who have actually had it done. Is this very uncommon? I would think a lot of guys here would have done it, considering they charge $9800 for the procedure alone, but they bundle it into their girth procedures for 'only' $3000 more I would think a lot of guys would go for it.
When I read your question initially, I pictured a guy always having to hold his dick to have functional insertion/coitus, perhaps I misunderstood.
As you can see in his answer (below), the degree of change (erection angle) in his opinion doesn't necessarily warrant concern and very select positions may pose a problem for recipients of lengthening surgery. I've been told by other practitioners who've also performed this procedure a multitude of times that reports and/or complaints of significant angle deviations are non-existent.
In other words, while there may (or may not) be a change in erection angle, the idea that such change would prove prohibitive of comfortable sex is something I haven't really come across much (if at all) in my time reading thousands of posts. I was a member of the Yahoo Phalloplasty Group, MyNewSize Forums, mid-2000's Thundersplace (when topic was more pravelent), and moderated nearly a decade of PhalloBoards; erection angle was "a thing," but I never came across anything that suggested it was "extreme" or "undesirable."
Then again, how risk-averse are you? There isn't anything saying that a small percentage of lengthening patients aren't prone to complication or severe angle deviation... or heck, even the paradoxical shortening due to scar tissue buildup (yes, that's something I've read before). I suppose if "her-on-top" is your thing, as Dr. Carney points out, you may have more reason to care, otherwise it seems more-or-less benign to me.
For what it's worth, I've had to use my finger at the base of my shaft for a number of sexual feats and I haven't even had lengthening surgery lol. I'll be quite frank, I could use some length but I'm still very much on the fence about the procedure. Flaccid gains are far more reliable than length gains (which are also dependent on the use of a stretching device post-op), and despite having access to many authentic reports, I still feel like the sample size (of progress reports) are too insufficient for me to "pull the trigger." I'm going to first work on my fat pad and see if that yields any length before re-considering this procedure type.
For me personally, the risks of undergoing a surgery (of any type, but especially one that is elective), may not necessarily be worth erect length gains short of an inch. Personally, I feel like these are best for the under-average & micro designated patients, but I'm not judging those with longer endowments for their decision to consider the procedure regardless. That all said, erection angle was probably toward the bottom of my "concerns list" when having considered this option and will likely remain toward the bottom when I re-consider (short of any new revelations).
There is a recent lengthening progress report that's being updated regularly, I advise PM'ing the author of that thread for more info as well.
Excerpt from your link: The fear of a significant change in erect angle while standing up is most often promulgated by doctors who don’t perform penile lengthening procedures. The angle changes 5-20 degree’s depending upon your present angle when standing up straight. It drops more on a percentage basis if your engorgement points near straight upward and less if you’re presently situated me straight ahead. Most men are prone on a bed when erect and never notice that difference.
A bigger consideration for some if the subsequent “looseness” at the base of the shaft following a ligament release. While most sexual positions are still fine in this state, the force of a partner coming down at an angle as with “cowgirl and reverse cowgirl” are challenging without putting your fingers at the base of the penis to add support. Thus, if “rodeo” sex is your favorite pastime, you need to think long and hard before considering a penile lengthening procedure. .