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Greetings Messageman & the Phalloboards crew,

I\'m new to this site, i use to contribute to BTC\'s board mynewsize way back in the day, but this PMMA proceedure for enlargement has me intrigued. At any rate, I\'m a Socal native and i regularly travel from Los Angeles to Tj & Ensenada between my school breaks to visit some ex-lovers. I\'m very well versed in the quality of the hotels out in Tj for those that are interested in staying on the mexico side.
If your interested in a Safe, yet modern Hotel like the Holiday Inn Express, that also has a very nice bar in the lobby, I would recommend HOTEL TICUAN, here\'s the link: hotelticuan.com/ . If you book online, the rooms cost $53-55 USD based upon the current exchange rate, if you go without a reservation it\'ll cost $70.
My Second recommendation is a 4-star hotel, that has a nice gambling hall in the lobby. The Hotel is Pueblo Amigo, its owned by Caliente Casinos, here\'s the link: www.hotelpuebloamigo.com/ , whats great about this hotel is the room service, and that its nearly 3min away from the border line, if your driving in they have a safe parking lot but tip the attendant. The basic suite will cost 80 USD if you book online, $100 without reservations. They also have a massage parlor with plenty of senorita\'s next door thats owned by the Hotel\'s upper management.

My 3rd recommendation is a new hotel that i\'ve been to, it\'s closer to the TJ\'s airport, its modern, the parking situation is super safe 24/7 security, awesome baja style lobster, avg cost of a room when booked online is $60 USD, here\'s the link: www.realdelrio.com/

I don\'t work for any hotel industry, most of the hotels can be found on tripadvisor. A little about me, I\'m a Bio undergraduate major here in the states, with a previous background in healthcare. Tj has been my backyard of fun when i want to get away from the Los Angeles college scene, if you have any questions and you want some young Americans\' take on the City, or references of good places to eat hit me up. by the way i\'m planning on having this proceedure done as soon as i receive the cash flow, when that happens hopefully i can call some of the board members who have had this proceedure done in Tj. Cheers gents!

~Coolhandluke

Messageman, if you have made your decision, this probably means an entirely new chapter is in the works to follow up your story thread? Remind me to copy & paste your thread here if you don\'t get to it first.
I\'m not familiar with hotels in San Diego but I\'d take E.P.s suggestions.

@MM have you made your descion?

I know that this was somewhat covered on the last site'but could I have some recommendations for a hotel to stay in San Diego' Thanks guys'. Messageman

Also I will ask Dr C in ten days or so whether PMMA presents a risk with intracavernous injections such as those done for erectile dysfunction. This is a treatment I am seeking to pursue, not to get rock hard but for the potential expansion using QuadMix and a few potentiators. I won\'t be doing it if this might move PMMA into the bloodstream. Also, I wonder if topical application of DMSO applied onto a PMMA enhanced shaft might not loosen some molecules of New Plastic and wash them into the bloodstream?
HC

As you say eq there\'s risk in every surgery. I think because it\'s our dicks we become extra cautious. I had a lower lid bletharoplasty a few years back, I was warned of a very small chance of blindness, it didn\'t stop me ! But I was the unlucky one when it came to my scaffold surgery. Nevertheless here I am again, I must be a glutton for punishment !
I do think however that there is a difference between the pmma technique and having your dick cut open. I have been through both , surgery and had a micro cannula inserted in my penis when I had the macrolane. And I can tell you there is no comparison. After the filler I just got in my car and drove home as if nothing had happened. No antibiotics, no painkillers, nothing. I\'m not saying there\'s no risk just saying that something like the elist implant is a much higher risk.

@EQ,
Lets say the migration of these small beads is true :-
1) As we know the number of people who had the other (bad???) products (e.g. Arteplast,artecoll,metacrill and Newplastic in the whole world) are more than the people who had Artefill (only in US) , so if there is migration of the beads of these products why dont we have at least one sick-patient from that in the last 20 yrs??
2) The volume of the injected PMMA in one patient (e.g in buttocks,Brazilian butts (around 500cc) also in HIV patient-PMMA injected in almost the whole body) as we know these large volumes of injected PMMA in one patient is not Artefill it is mostly from the Brazilian products (Newplastic or Metacrill) so from these e.g. 500 cc we didn\'t read any report about distant organ complication. Would you think a total of 50 cc of Newplastic in the penis will do the distant organ damage and the 500 cc would not , btw the Butts injection was done way before the penile injection ??
If Dr. Cohen has one report of one ill-patient would he hesitate to mention it ???
3) Some of these products are >20 years in the market, is it not enough to see at least one ill-patient ??? May be we have to wait for another 50 yrs and not 20 yrs to see if these products are safe or not ???
In conclusion :-
Lets say we have (a bad + dangerous ???) product tested :-
a) For >20 yrs.
b) Way more number (thousands) of patients (e.g. only in China >500,000 people) were injected with these (bad???) products more than the best product.
c) Large volume of these (bad???) products were injected in one patient than the artefill which is used in a very small volume for e.g.facial wrinkles and never 500cc in butts ???? too expensive.
So from these points ( it is like human experiments and not animal experiments ) wouldn\'t be enough to show at least one ill-patient???
EQ I am only trying to get the truth as all of us from the whole thing, Dr. Cohen will make it easier for us if he can show us at least one patient , could you help us to get this information from him or from other doctors , I have tried but he unfortunately didn\'t answer my Q. (i.e. our Q.) .

@Dd71 - I am pretty comfortable with Artefill. I just had another discussion with another plastic surgeon (the third) about using it for chin augmentation work I am considering. I have not made a decision on PE; I am leaning towards leaving well enough alone.I am not the best person to ask because I am in the medical industry and very familiar with promising new procedures which 3 to 5 years down the road turn out to be disastrous for some patients. Because of that fact I tend to be very cautious and evaluate every procedure by saying if the worst thing happens is it worth the risk. It is important to remember that the risk numbers are developed and refined because they did occur in the test cases. No matter how low they appear they will occur in some patients. Can you live with it if you are the 'lucky' one?If you have to have a procedure because you believe it will change your life and you can't live with what you have then certainly Artefill or FFT have the lowest procedure risks and likelihood of reaching your girth goals.Reading PatrickEire's post this morning brought the reality home to me as did this honest quote from Dr. Whiteheads site on hia Alloderm procedure.Infection. I have seen three patients who developed an infection and lost the graft and one patient who lost part of the graft, and three patients who did not lose the graft. Thats 7 patient with infections. Now lets say he has done 500 over 10 years or so that is a rate of 1.4%. Sounds low right? I asked myself could I live with that and the resulting surgeries as an outcome. My answer, I will continue to swing my average stick for now! On the other hand I would take Sizemic\'s unit with no long term complications in a beat but I am too chicken to live with the risks if my number gets called.

I\'d be curious to know how eq or sparticus would feel about having Artefill in their dicks if it\'s available ?

EQ whats your current feeling for pmma? Are you still pursuing alloderm, fft and other options? I honestly feel that they dont compare to all the advantages of pmma...Because even when it comes down to comparing complications , you just dont hear \"my dick is green\" or \"im not able to get an erection\". The complications are reserved to bumps and nodules. In all the research I have gone threw, migration, infection, and impotance are basically Non-exsistant. I keep stalling to get this procedure because of those type of complaints, and there just not happining. This will change my life, theres no doubt about that. My worries now are purely about the quality of the material so I can avoid granulomas down the road. If we find that the purity is not as inferior as cohen suggests, than I wont have a hesitation about scheduling my appointment.

smartman wrote: ...Or any medical articles stating that there is a chance of distant migration in human after the injection of the worst PMMA Arteplast or Newplastic?? ...

That information has been provided as part of the initial Artecol presentation to the FDA and is referenced by almost every research article on the subject.

Cohen AES Article wrote: In terms of migration, murine studies of Artecoll presented at the FDA panel showed that no spheres larger than 8 microns were found outside of the injection site; a 4-micron diameter sphere was found in one axillary lymph node, whereas a single 8-micron sphere was found in the lung of one mouse.2 From these studies, it was concluded that PMMA microspheres of 30 to 40 microns did not pose a risk of transportation during clinical application. There are presently no human studies of which we are aware that have reported ArteFill migration outside of the injection site.

A key requirement for FDA approval was that Artefill could not contain spheres smaller than 20 microns which were shown to be eaten by marcophages and in the animal studies found in migrated to lymph nodes and lungs!

@sparticus,
You wrote to me bfore:-
(( @smartman I believe directly contacting Dr. Cohen about his opinion would be very beneficial for the forum )) .
As I told you before I will try my best to get more information from Dr.Cohen and he will be one of my sources and not only Lemperle .

So these are the e-mails to Dr.Cohen and his replies :-

1} I am interested in PMMA injection , I was planning to go either to Mexico or Brazil for either (Metacrill or Newplastic) , I know that the Artefill is more superior than the other two , but it is more expensive.As I read the only complication could happen is the chance of developing foreign body granuloma which can be treated by local injection ??
A) Artefill is much safer. For the extra money it is with it. Of course you are the decision maker. If I showed you what these other products under a microscope looked like you would understand.
2} Do we need an antibiotic for Artefill injection in the prevention of short or long-term infection??
A) No it is not necessary . If you are interested please contact our office and schedule an appointment for a consultation.

3} Then I have sent him another two e-mails in regards :-1) If we dont need an antibiotic for PMMA injection , so thats mean the risk of serious infection for this filler is Zero , correct??
Is it true there are millions of macrophages around the beads which will attack any micro-organisms coming close to the beads ??
2) I heard there could be a possibility of migration of the small beads present in the Metacrill or Newplastic to a distant organ if that is true, is there any medical article which will show this complication did happen in human ?? e.g. liver or lung disease or failure ??
Or any medical articles stating that there is a chance of distant migration in human after the injection of the worst PMMA Arteplast or Newplastic?? Liver or lung failure or other serious diseases beside the higher rate of foreign body granuloma formation which is 2.5% .
That was his reply to me :-
A) Please contact the company or come in for a consult. I unfortunately will not be able to spend any more of my time on your emails.

LOL, I dont know why he refused to answer my last Q., the answer of my Q. is so simple YES or NO , could it be he has something e.g. a report about Newplastic (i.e. a proof in regard of migration of the small beads which can cause serious illnesses or did it cause a distant organ failure) and he doesnt want to tell ?? I doubt it .
If somebody has any other names (i.e. other expert doctors in PMMA beside Lemperle and Cohenl) whom we can ask and they could give us more information about our Q., I would appreciate it .
SM

I\'m curious if any of you guys who have gotten the PMMA have noticed any non-sexual effects of having the impact in your penis. I remember reading that someone noticed their cock floated a lot more in water, which I feel like my cock (if uninhibited) always tends to float poking straight up. But have you guys any unique observations to share?
Also, do you guys think a urologist could tell you had some sort of implantation by looking or feeling around without any medical scans?

Thanks for the answer gents....One less thing to worry about...

@ Messageman, I believe the answer to that is a resounding no!

However if you were body searched they might conclude you are carrying a Gun in your pants!