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@ff
As you increase the concentration of the PMMA--> the new collagen will feel firmer, denser and less elastic.
They are making PMMA with 40-45% concentration for bone defect reconstruction (e.g. frontal bone defect) :-
\"Dr. Nacul said that he is developing a 40-45% concentration for specific reconstructive applications where a denser implant is desired.\"
www.facialwasting.org/buttock_wasting.htm
BTW I had Metacrill 30% sure it will be (I think) much firmer than 10 or 20% but it is still elastic and my EL is the same without any changes.
But as we know lower concentration has less side effects than the higher concentration ( in regard of small lumps formation).

As we know a PMMA in a non-dynamic organ (esp. over a bone e.g. nasal bony dorsum) has a great result, in the other hand in a dynamic organ e.g. lips or penis it will be very difficult to have the best esthetic result you will need more rounds.
Also IMO in regard of touch-ups round should be delayed for a longer period esp. if someone has only small esthetic issues, the reason for that (in my case) I can see now much better the small issues and the end result of my PMMA after 1-1.5 yr.
So by delaying the touch-up if you can, you want do any harm for your penis.
If you do it earlier (e.g. 6wks) I am sure you will need another touch-up later on??

Lets think about it in this way during injection of PMMA they stretch your penis and straightaway after the procedure they wrap your stretched penis to avoid turtling esp. in the 1st 48 hrs and they want the beads to be spread evenly over a stretched penis (so turtling in early stage---> bad result) and as I mentioned before some brazilian doctors advised that for a longer period they said to avoid any possibility of contracture formation, so I was afraid that the granulation and the new collagen formation later on could affect the deep fascia (e.g. tunica) and it could affect its elasticity in the future (I might be wrong)??

@ funnyfarm
\"I am little confused about extenders, pumps, ect. The doctor says to avoid them for 6 weeks but also indicates the PMMA stops moving in about 2 days and you can have sex at day 7, so not sure about the rational behind the 6 week widow.\"
I do understand your point I think using an extender which does not compress the pmma and the new collagen does not do any harm (actually it is advised by some brazilian doctors in the 1st 7-10 days).
But in regard of not using a pump in the 1st 6wks, it could be the negative pressure will affect the mechanism of granulation formation and encapsulation of the beads and the end result of the new collagen formation.
Btw some doctors advise no sex before 6 wks.
If I want to use something I will use only a penile extender in the early stage after PMMA injection.
But of course the best thing is to listen only to your treating doctor.

@Rondo
A to Q. 2
1) I had alloderm in (2007) I was happy for few months but after around 10 months most of the graft was resorbed and I was so upset (it was a waste of time and money in my case and I know some guys may have great results but nobody knows for how long the graft will stay) but thank god I had no complication from the alloderm and I didn\'t want to have another alloderm graft because of many reasons (high risk of infection in the second graft, scar formation with the possibilty of severe penile retraction, again the possibility of resorption of the second graft, under general anesthesia and also the high cost of the procedure).
2) PMMA in (2008+2009) without any complications and the new penile girth I have is still the same as after the last injection in 2009, and around 80% of the new girth is your own body tissues (new collagen) also it feels like your own muscle tissues surrounding the rest 20% which consists of very small beads and you cannot feel these beads.
But I would recommend (I have mentioned that many times before) anybody who had penile allograft before (e.g. alloderm or belladerm or DFG) he should have an antibiotic one shot before the procedure and an oral antibiotic afterwards. Because there is a risk of severe infection of the old graft from introducing the micro-cannula in the penis and the possibility of bacteria entering the area.
Also you should avoid water coming near to the entry holes until they are completely healed.
It is very important to be on the safe side esp. for guys who had previous penile girth surgeries.

A to Q.4
In regard of using a pump, you could use it (I did use it few times) but if the aim is only to increase your girth dont do it just go for more PMMA.You should use it 6 wks after the PMMA.

Q.5
Removing alloderm alone due to any reason from the penis as we know will be difficult and I am sure it will more difficult for the surgeon if he decide to remove the alloderm and pmma ( and I don\'t think it will be easy for him to remove only the alloderm without pmma and anyway if there is an infection of the alloderm the new collagen around the beads will be also involved and they have to be removed together).
A to Q.7
In regard of penile extender you can use them without any problem.
A to Q.8
\"how does anyone feel about their \'locker-room appearance after having PMMA? I was hugely confident after my first procedure (alloderm) which is waning- I don\'t want any changes to be obtuse and obvious\"
I was more confident after my PMMA than before, I had never that feeling before, and if you don\'t want it to be obtuse just don\'t go for a huge girth.
The good thing in PMMA you can have the girth you want and it will stay almost the same for ever.

I have a feeling a compression hanger...sadly the type that works best would not be usable after having PMMA done. I\'m thinking it could tear or \"break\" the PMMA even months later.

Answer to question no 7: Yes, PMMA will not prevent you from using extenders.

Smartman has had PMMA over alloderm.

Unbelievable thread. Ok, I\'m a bit of a wall flower not unlike several others so here are my \'final\' questions to anyone viewing this thread regarding PMMA: Is it noticeable with jeans/work pants on 4 days or longer after the procedure I work in jeans/work pants and occasionally give presentations which make me a focal point. I\'m concerned someone might notice.Has anyone on this site had the PMMA done over the top of alloderm/belladerm? I had alloderm/lengthening done in \'04 and am persuing this as a means to replenish the fullness I once enjoyed. Anyone one that has, I would a appreciate an opportunity to hear your experience- please private messagge me.What is the contact info for Dr. Cassevantes? Phone? E-mail?Does/has anyone use pumping after having had the PMMA? I am currently a morning pumper to try and reinvigorate the alloderm. I have had some reasonable atrophy, but nothing to bad.Is it possible to remove the Allloderm (if necessry) after having had the PMMA? I\'m concerned the Alloderm may further deteriorate over the next decades and cause length issues. I want to retain the option of removing it (anyone done it in that order?).How do you measure all of this BPEL stuff? I understand the acronyms, but I\'ve found the best way for me to measure my length \'potential\' is to measure how far it reaches in the tube when fully pumped. I have hit 7 3/4\" measured directly off the back edge of the tube, but have since fell back to 7 1/2\" pretty reliably (due to age of alloderm and lack of stretching and such- gotta work to pay for this crap)How about stretching after PMMA with a jes extender type device?how does anyone feel about their \'locker-room appearance after having PMMA? I was hugely confident after my first procedure (alloderm) which is waning- I don\'t want any changes to be obtuse and obviousanyoone having this done consider the testicular elist implant to \'balance\' the appearance? I am very leary of that procedure based on feedback on this site, but have spoken with some individuals who actually advocate it.Well, sorry to use your progress as a place to post, but it seemed appropriate. I think my original stats are similiar to yours, and aside from a little less length (I think?) I resemble your mid procedure appearance. My goal is to have the \'pumped\' look and feel without all this goddamn pumping (15 min in the shower every morning).

@gamecock and ttar2380
Thank you for the kind words. I found this picture on an internet search and posted it on the old forum before.

I agree 100% with all of you it is better to wait 6 wks minimum, and it will be much better if you wait much longer till the end of the new collagen formation ( i.e. 3-4 months).

I agree with you on the 10% solution issue. I have my own theories as well. I will discuss with the Dr. and nurse Wade.

Thx for your wishes!

That\'s wise of you Zmann. Six weeks is the minimum. In actuality, the entire process can take up to three months although I\'d expect little change after the two month mark. Best wishes on your procedure brother Zmann!

@mustang2020
Perhaps discussing/suggesting a higher volume with Dr. Casavantes/RN Wade for your second round is in order. I\'m beginning to draw certain conclusions about collagen induction at 10% concentrations. I\'m keeping a log so please make sure to document your progress! Best wishes my friend.

6 week minimum, that\'s something I think needs to be emphasized more here on the forum. It seems that 6 weeks is some magical number where you must go back, if you have the patience especially now with 10% seeming a little slower I think 8-10 weeks would be a little better. I\'m personally not going back till my 10th week so I\'m certain anything irregular can be worked out.