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28 Jun 2011 20:40

Jec wrote: Has anyone who\'s had pmma done tried or currently use a traction device?Does it feel safe or same as before? or does the new collagen feel too tight to stretch or something?


I\'ll be receiving a stretching device soon, but in the meantime I find that manual stretching (with my hands) seems no different than before PMMA.
28 Jun 2011 20:40
Has anyone who\'s had pmma done tried or currently use a traction device?Does it feel safe or same as before? or does the new collagen feel too tight to stretch or something?
28 Jun 2011 20:40
Quote - post by eqstudent
\"Now, if all you want is a bigger unit so you can walk around feeling that you have a bigger dick than the next guy, ignore everything I have said and just go for it!\"
That phrase could be placed strategically in every thread in the forum lol.

@Jec
What is safe or not will always be a matter of conjecture and calculated risk. Nothing is fool proof in life, and much less so in the uncharted territory of experimental medical interventions. As far as a timeline is concerned, it could be that next year research proves it safe or that we\'d need to wait a quarter century for historical tracking of our own current interventions? It all depends on what your comfort zone is for safety. I reflected a lot about it and, given my age and circumstances, considered phalloplasty by PMMA injection by a tried and tested competent practitioner such as Dr C as safe enough today to pursue myself. Others will choose to wait and ponder, each with their own valid reasons and different risk aversion thresholds used in examining scientific data.
HC
28 Jun 2011 20:40
thanks for replies fellas.
I have no idea how the traction devices work on pmma injected penis.
Would it leave a gap at base if it extends, or does it stretch the newly formed collagen just making it sort of thinner layer but not leaving a gap at base?
Maybe no one has an answer, just as no one has answer to the most important question: would it be safe for me in long-term.

But when we know it is reasonably safe? In ten years maybe.

28 Jun 2011 20:40
honestly I am put back from pmma now again after Dr.Cassutos message.
28 Jun 2011 20:40
Can\'t make her orgasm.I just dunno what to do. I want to stay with her forever but were incompatible down there.I just wish I had inch more girth. I have EG 4.3-4.5 EL 6 ,and amazingly tiny flaccid. I just want her to feel me.
Scared about possible risks like inflammatio in future with pmma in penis.I don\'t want to loose what I have but can\'t stop worrying about my size.I do have the cash to drop if I needed for treatments in worst case scenarios.
28 Jun 2011 20:40

Jec wrote: Yes, it might be just that I have looked photos from recovery period.I am actually about to pay my flight today! That\'s why I have major last minute doubts.Yesterday I read the links Supa sent to on the old pmma thread.Now I don\'t know if I am taking some mega risk on my penis health.... uh oh.I already thought it\'s safe, but I guess it\'s not so clear yet?
Are there risks that I could loose erection for life? Or major unstoppable inflammation?
I have planned to take 10% to minimize risks but then the results might be minimal.
Thank\'s for nice replies.


Keep in mind any procedure you choose to undergo will have risks. Women seeking out the common & refined practice of the \"boob job\" still face risks, so us guys certainly have it much riskier when we approach a lesser refined field (i.e. phalloplasty).
I will say, however, that the Bioplasty technique definitely has major advantages over traditional surgery, but that does not make it free of risks.
In the end, most will conclude:To go with a procedure (i.e. PMMA) after having researched thoroughly.Decline pursuing a procedure only to wait out more progress reports before reassessing their decision.Decline all procedures and pursue manual PE.I\'m most concerned with those who have decided to undergo PMMA in specific without having thoroughly reviewed all the information that\'s currently out there. PMMA is almost too good to be true, which is why I\'m still reserved on the topic (even though I love my own result). I\'m obviously pro-PMMA to some extent, but ultimately know that there is still a lot we\'re learning about and cannot possibly conclude with 100% certainty that this is the Holy Grail for Girth (until of course, stem cell magic rules the day). Time will tell that, though I have a hunch that we\'ve come across something legit!
For those who have \"mixed feelings\" (the title of this thread), be sure you feel that you are doing it for all the right & healthy reasons, and keep in mind that this is not an easy process (PMMA in specific) to reverse.
Good luck jec and all others who are contemplating their PE futures.
28 Jun 2011 20:40
Hi Mikehok,
I\'m with you on that one, I think that a \"conservative\" approach is the right one here given the irreversible part of the equation. \"Move ahead cautiously when there is no turning back...\" isn\'t that what Indiana Jones would have said?
This is exactly what Dr Casavantes highly recommends and he is apparently not so pleased with the fact that girth hungry patients seek bigger is better solutions to too little girth. Now don\'t get me wrong, girth is also what I want because it is what the ladies like - right? But heck why settle for just a little when you can get a lot?
I think it might be useful to start a Penis Aesthetics thread here, so that we no longer fail to lost all sense of reference as to what an organ looks like. Not that they can\'t come in all shapes and sizes, but that there might be some incidence of the final result which might both impact our decision so go ahead with a certain procedure or other, or to do so with specific objectives in mind.
I would refer to PMMA as \"collagen sculpting\" which when done with skillful hands such as those of Dr C can produce amazingly splendid results. But as with any artist you can\'t just tell them \"pack it on!\" and hope it will look perfect. I think that he should know what you seek but then let his artistic licence speak. His task, since it is permanent and we are only the \"guardian of our penis\", is to enhance it and not turn it into a circus freak. Sure we want to get the oooohs and gasps... But at the end we\'ll wind up with what we have for keeps.
Form and function cannot always be met in equal measure and of course trade-offs will need to be made. If you\'re short as I and a few others here are, then it is a choice between limiting girth objectives or sacrificing the usual longitudinal proportions of a projected organ which might tend to appear to be stubbed. Now if it pleases the ladies they may come to find that shape beautiful for the promise of joy it represents.
Yet it is also something which incarnates our sense of manhood, who we are and what we have got as a hidden asset? At least this is how I perceive it from my current next to bankrupt assessment in my own accounting. So preserving at least a semblance of authentic appearance will help not only feel good about how it reflects on our overall bodily aesthetics, but also will help us identify it as ours and not some transplanted organ that looks nothing like us.
I think that IF this summer I go ahead and visit Dr C it will be with that purpose in mind, to resculpt the penis with first and foremost aesthetics in mind, regardless of the time taken and number of sessions or cost to achieve a result. Taking it slower than fast will no doubt not only limit the risks of unexpected shapes needing further thickening to conceal, but it will also give one more gradual options in terms of just how to taper, what the perfect base girth might be, and even the general shape of the organ. FWIW.
HC
28 Jun 2011 20:40
Just out of interest I read this in relation to Artefill but the same would apply to pmma generally
\"Overcorrection at the initial treatment session should be avoided as the body may respond better by being able to encapsulate a smaller quantity of product more frequently. \"
28 Jun 2011 20:40
Yes, it might be just that I have looked photos from recovery period.I am actually about to pay my flight today! That\'s why I have major last minute doubts.Yesterday I read the links Supa sent to on the old pmma thread.Now I don\'t know if I am taking some mega risk on my penis health.... uh oh.I already thought it\'s safe, but I guess it\'s not so clear yet?
Are there risks that I could loose erection for life? Or major unstoppable inflammation?
I have planned to take 10% to minimize risks but then the results might be minimal.
Thank\'s for nice replies.
28 Jun 2011 20:40

Jec wrote: I have been lurking on the old board for some while and am undecided should I get pmma. I am 4,5 EG like many who has gotten the procedure done.
From before/after pics it is hard to make conclusions of the results.All except sizemic\'s results look quite unnatural and bruised.Why are his results so different looking? Is it just in my eyes?I\'d rather have smaller and natural, than thick and strange.So it would probably be gamble how my results would look with pmma?

If you came to the forums after the photos were taken down, it may be less apparent that most photos that appear to be bruised are usually well within their recovery period.
The best way to pass judgment on the aesthetics of a PMMA penis is to examine it 6 weeks post-op from the 2nd injection appointment. That is because the first appointment will almost inevitably have major/minor aesthetic issues that is meant to be resolved by the 2nd appointment. The bruising should usually be gone by 6 weeks post-op, regardless of which round it was (1st, 2nd, 3rd).
If you are relying on photos to help you make a decision, I\'d definitely hang around and wait till more are submitted. You are going to want to look at the 6 weeks-post op of penises that have undergone a 2nd or 3rd round.
good luck with whatever it is you decide to do.
28 Jun 2011 20:40
I have been lurking on the old board for some while and am undecided should I get pmma. I am 4,5 EG like many who has gotten the procedure done.
From before/after pics it is hard to make conclusions of the results.All except sizemic\'s results look quite unnatural and bruised.Why are his results so different looking? Is it just in my eyes?I\'d rather have smaller and natural, than thick and strange.So it would probably be gamble how my results would look with pmma?
28 Jun 2011 18:04
@Justabitmore
FFT sounds good if you don\'t mind the fact that it tends to resorb over time more than PMMA and that its collagen formation might be slightly less resilient? I guess like any procedure it all boils down to the doctor\'s skill and the patients configuration and response to the techniques used.
For others here I haven\'t had issues with my size at least overtly when it came to women. However I know indirectly - call it intuition as you may - that I have lost at least a few to men who were better endowed while they had neither charm or charisma nor better looks or social status, just some strange reason that lured them away. I took the hint by the words and actions when they left me although I wasn\'t a slacker when it came to sleepless nights of constant attention.
However I recently renewed with a former girlfriend from my youth and she noted my complaints about that young girl I\'m hooked on who tends to go for ethnic types usually of African origins. She said it\'s a myth that black men have larger shlongs, something which sounded like she had had plenty of time to check out for herself. She is a woman of experience and always had a flock of suitors waiting in line. Her looks, character and incredible personality gave her the pick of any man in town. If anyone knows she does.
But she did read into my comments and from the bitter way I expressed them noted that it wasn\'t as simple as all that. We were teenagers together both in love and those were days one remained a virgin at an age such as that. We had what I can only call sex by kissing so erotically that for neither of us nothing has since ever matched this. Yet no sexual contact. When we were 25 we got together again but I was having a hard time recovering from the loss of the love of my life and she pretended she had herself another man she loved.... out of spite. We even spent a night in bed but she wouldn\'t make love, so we just laid there together talking and hugging until we finally passed out.
Last week we found out we were both for the first time since that both in town, and got together two days before I was on my way to see Dr C. We had dinner both remaining evenings but agreed to postpone more serious aspects of the encounter until I return in September... and she said regarding my earlier comments \"If I understand from your comments earlier you are quite small?\" I said that we shouldn\'t exxagerate or jump to conclusions but was taken aback by her frankness which I think was to get this out of the way. She also called my convertible sports car my \"man\'s penis\" which is a way of implying I must be compensating as she says most men do with their penile hangups.
So I don\'t know if she thinks guys are dumb to be so dick focused or whether having had her pick of so many has her own needs and requirements which make her jostle me thus. Possibly she is exacting revenge at my earlier infliction on her of my devotion to that other woman who had dumped me, when she herself had stronger feelings for me than she cared to reveal. After all I was broke and depressed and she\'d take me out to dinner all the time.
In any case this is a very unusual situation burdened with decades of curiosity and expectations, and I do hope that although I made no girth requests of Dr C that I will be at least enhanced enough to please a woman of discriminating taste and vast sexual experience. My favorite result will be that she moves on to another topic, such as how great it is to be together at last, with that penile organ taking a back seat to other aspects of a fulfilling relationship...
HC

28 Jun 2011 18:04
Hello, I just joined because its nice to know I\'m not the only one that has dealt with this problem. I can relate to each and everyone of you. I haven\'t had it as bad as most of y\'all but I am very bothered by it. I had a comments made by a few girls but it never really bothered me until now. It may be because I looked at it as, I got what I needed and to hell with you but the fact of the matter it seemed to me was they all wanted more. As of a month ago I had rotator cuff surgery that took seven pieces of hardware to put it back together. I also have a tear in my other shoulder that will need attention in the near future. I guess what I\'m getting at is that with all this going on I feel worthless. The bad part is my size issue is driving me crazy. It should be the last thing on my mind but I feel once this is fixed I\'d be much better off. Am I wrong for thinking this? I feel like I\'m going crazy because of it. I\'m really interested in doing the pmma and so far I\'ve seen the ones who\'ve had it have had good results. I know its a fairly new thing and I\'m willing to do it no matter what. Should I be thinking like this or do I just need to get a grasp of what\'s going on in my head? I\'m just looking for some guidance and help to make the right decision. Its nice just being able to vent \"so to speak\" to people who understand what this does to someone. Sorry if this doesn\'t belong here but I didn\'t know where else to put it. Thanks for any input.
28 Jun 2011 18:04
Growing up I was always that nice / shy blonde hair blue eyed boy that all the girls had secret crushes on; but due to my Christian upbringing, general kind heartedness and nice moral behaviour I never really paid much attention to it. Everyone likely grew up with a kid like this in your class. A cute boy that girls crushed on that was too shy / nice to \"date around\" with them. At least in the early years.

This mentality lead me to not really \"date\" anyone until I was around 15 years old. During this time we waited 10 months to have sex and I had sex for the first time when I was 16. I was around 6\" x 4.5\" at the time. Of course waiting so long we had it built up hope it would be absolutely amazing... it wasn\'t.

When I first put it in... no real reaction from her. She actually said \"Is it in yet?\". I mean... she was a virgin! She didn\'t even feel it sliding into her at first? Of course after a few seconds she started complaining about it hurting and she bled a little bit. But the damage had been done to my confidence.

After that I started searching the internet and I found Thundersplace. This actually made things worse for me because I read about the \"average\" size and I realized that although my length was average... my girth was below average. I mean I know that 6\" x 4.5\" is by no means small. Just the thought that the average guy out there is bigger than me really bothered me.

That lead me down a ~5 year path of manual PE. I did a lot of jelqing, clamping, hanging, pumping and ADS work. I only really stared posting at thundersplace after I got my vacADS from autoextender.com.

After all the years of hard work I measured out at ~7.5\" x 4.5\". I was very very dedicated to manual PE and I had a very postive outlook on it and an open mind which I think helped. If you don\'t think something will working when you start it, it probably wont work for you. Also it is important to note that I was 17 when I started PE, some of my \"gains\" could very well have been puberty.

Naturally, after 5 years of hard and dedicated work and no girth gains, I got very frustrated. I searched around the net for options and ruled everything out because of the price and general unpredictable outcomes. That was until I found phalloboards and stumbled upon PMMA. Everything I saw and read just made me believe that this was the answer I was looking for.

That brings me to here. One bad comment lead to 5 years of obsession and a girth enhancement procedure.

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