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I’ve raised the same concerns about aesthetics to my wife. Her response has been that she cares more about the feel. Now, she’s also said that she would rather enjoy what I have than have some horrible complications. Was the issue with Silicone drops that they reacted with other fillers, or are they just inherently dangerous? Can you link to the thread you have in mind? I have a monthly sub, but last I checked can’t view pics from 2.0.

Regarding a traction device. I’ve been using the Phallosan Forte. It’s okay, but the base is uncomfortable. Is the Penismaster Pro more comfortable? Other advantages?

Lastly, any tips on taking pics to post here? All of them look awful. I’m obviously doing something wrong.

Morganstern sent me something that they call PSX2. It's basically a less-fancy version of the Phallosan, with tension applied via a leg strap. Their instructions say to work your way up to wearing the device 8 to 10 hours per day after the procedure. I tried on the device, and it seems to apply surprisingly mild tension, so it'd definitely be tolerable to wear for that length of time--I think the bigger issue would be the inconvenience of having to take it on and off.

I've also recently started hanging using a Bib hanger. I want to ask Dr. Carney's opinion regarding hanging as a means of post-surgical stretching, as it seems like the added tension would be much more effective.

M5220 wrote: Have some questions for the gents on the board.
Ill post the questions, then I give a little background because I did some surgery and stretching was delayed for a few reasons.

First: For stretching using a device like the Phallosan Forte/Plus, is it detrimental to take 2 weeks off after 6 weeks and 334 hours. I didnt anticipate but I have already experienced an increase of 1/4 - 1/2 of an inch (erect). I say 6 weeks, but the break is suppose to be in 2 weeks, so so far after 4 weeks I have good gains that even my wife agrees I am larger.

Second: I have been dealt the short end of the stick but I am (vs the average girth stats posted online) I am more girthier than others. Does anyone know if I go with fat injections, if the Phallosan condoms (which the largest one seems to create a ring impression) will leave an imprint or if there are larger 3rd party condoms out there (sorry, condom sleeves)?

Any suggestions or tips are appreciated.

Backgound:

Asian American, started about 10 cm errect and 12 cm girth. uncirmcumsized.
I did ligament release surgery and circumsition and fat end of November.
Main reasons were that being not circumsized, was causing worsing jock itch (meaning harder to get rid of).
Always wanted to be bigger also and knew about ligament release surgery with weights since the early 2000s.
Am older with kids, not much risk for me so I signed-up.

Surgery was fine, but couldnt get my fat injected as I had the circumcision at the same time.
So no stretching for 5 weeks after surgury, did a little testing but after the 6th week went in to get fat injected.
No stretching for a further 10 days which brings me to mid January.

Initially before a lot of the fat disolved I had problems with the Phallosan forte, the ring was too tight. The Plus version was the only one that I could put on.
First few weeks I did 5-8 hours day with the plus but last week I did 8 hours during the day with the plus and 4-8 hours at night with the forte.

Note: For the forte, I dont use their OEM strap, the foam ring is not that great for me. I bought a zip belt and have a hook with velcro attached to it and use that. Much better.
Also have issues with the bell. Sometimes I fit just fit in the M, sometimes I have to go to the Large. Sometimes with the Large though my gland shrinks and the suction isnt so great. I also have better luck with the condom sleeves when they are worked in so the ring opening (the open side) doesnt create much of an indent on my shaft.

So to conclude, in 4 weeks, with the last week finally being able to find a system to do 13-18 hours a day, and with gains of 1/4 -1/2 an inch, I am not so hot to go back for my next fat injection. I am more inclind to go at the end of may (apparently my fat lasts 6 months in the freezer) to no loose momentum Also, I have an added 1-2 cm in girth from the fat that didnt disolve in the shaft and I cant say that I am a fan. I like the added girth but it feels much different when using my tool. Almost, well, because there is, a think layer of fat between my shaft and ...well you know. It feels almost at times like your rubbing up and down a packet of ketchup, or liquid. Maybe because its not been that long.

Edit: Didnt realize this wasnt much of a review. The Phallosan I think is a top notch as medical grade quality as you could get. Customer service was great, on the plus, the white base cracked and they shipped me a new unit. Expensive, but Ive wasted just as much on ebay with crappy weights and things you need to clip that go around the gland (I think I cut it too short). My surgery was also overall good but I dont know if I want to share that portion.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'll be curious to see how effective the stretching is in the long run post-ligamentolysis, and it's good to hear you're seeing some tangible gains.

Have some questions for the gents on the board.
Ill post the questions, then I give a little background because I did some surgery and stretching was delayed for a few reasons.

First: For stretching using a device like the Phallosan Forte/Plus, is it detrimental to take 2 weeks off after 6 weeks and 334 hours. I didnt anticipate but I have already experienced an increase of 1/4 - 1/2 of an inch (erect). I say 6 weeks, but the break is suppose to be in 2 weeks, so so far after 4 weeks I have good gains that even my wife agrees I am larger.

Second: I have been dealt the short end of the stick but I am (vs the average girth stats posted online) I am more girthier than others. Does anyone know if I go with fat injections, if the Phallosan condoms (which the largest one seems to create a ring impression) will leave an imprint or if there are larger 3rd party condoms out there (sorry, condom sleeves)?

Any suggestions or tips are appreciated.

Backgound:

Asian American, started about 10 cm errect and 12 cm girth. uncirmcumsized.
I did ligament release surgery and circumsition and fat end of November.
Main reasons were that being not circumsized, was causing worsing jock itch (meaning harder to get rid of).
Always wanted to be bigger also and knew about ligament release surgery with weights since the early 2000s.
Am older with kids, not much risk for me so I signed-up.

Surgery was fine, but couldnt get my fat injected as I had the circumcision at the same time.
So no stretching for 5 weeks after surgury, did a little testing but after the 6th week went in to get fat injected.
No stretching for a further 10 days which brings me to mid January.

Initially before a lot of the fat disolved I had problems with the Phallosan forte, the ring was too tight. The Plus version was the only one that I could put on.
First few weeks I did 5-8 hours day with the plus but last week I did 8 hours during the day with the plus and 4-8 hours at night with the forte.

Note: For the forte, I dont use their OEM strap, the foam ring is not that great for me. I bought a zip belt and have a hook with velcro attached to it and use that. Much better.
Also have issues with the bell. Sometimes I fit just fit in the M, sometimes I have to go to the Large. Sometimes with the Large though my gland shrinks and the suction isnt so great. I also have better luck with the condom sleeves when they are worked in so the ring opening (the open side) doesnt create much of an indent on my shaft.

So to conclude, in 4 weeks, with the last week finally being able to find a system to do 13-18 hours a day, and with gains of 1/4 -1/2 an inch, I am not so hot to go back for my next fat injection. I am more inclind to go at the end of may (apparently my fat lasts 6 months in the freezer) to no loose momentum Also, I have an added 1-2 cm in girth from the fat that didnt disolve in the shaft and I cant say that I am a fan. I like the added girth but it feels much different when using my tool. Almost, well, because there is, a think layer of fat between my shaft and ...well you know. It feels almost at times like your rubbing up and down a packet of ketchup, or liquid. Maybe because its not been that long.

Edit: Didnt realize this wasnt much of a review. The Phallosan I think is a top notch as medical grade quality as you could get. Customer service was great, on the plus, the white base cracked and they shipped me a new unit. Expensive, but Ive wasted just as much on ebay with crappy weights and things you need to clip that go around the gland (I think I cut it too short). My surgery was also overall good but I dont know if I want to share that portion.

Hey all!


I've been a member of PEGym for a while now, probably longer than I can remember but have been on and off.
Before I get into my Androfill consultation with Gary Horn today, I'd like to give you guys a quick background, which some of you may be able to relate.

Recently divorced and have 1 child of who I care for full time while working from home (yes, together with the home schooling due to COVID ), I digress!

PE Experience

I did some PE briefly a few years back but was never consistent so didn't see any gains.
I started to take PE seriously about a year ago and purchased a HydroMax and Phallosan Forte (PF). I was very determined this time around and even after 3 months, I saw some EL gains. It was actually becoming fun and rather enjoyable, albeit a little mundane, the gains kept me going.

Routine

I was wearing the PF for as long as I could and that tended to be around 10 hours, sometimes less, 4-5 times a week. Jelq and pump every other day or 2 days on 2 days off.

Injury

Ever since summer of 2020 I had to stop all PE as I went a little too hard with pumping one session which bruised my glans. Not the usual blood spots or specs, but a proper, big bruise. I tried resting a week, two and even a month, but each time I tried, it just didn't look right and my glans would turn purple even from light sessions. Not only this, but my glans, even to this day have a lumpy/bumpy texture, much more prominent when erect.
So I had no choice but to stop any exercise. It has now been over 6 months with no signs of full recovery......tick tock tick tock.....

But Why?

Why not?! We all want a bigger knob (well most of us), unless you're a naturally hung and girthy stud (lucky bastards!).
Yes, some of you may be thinking and probably will write "But you're above average, why would you want to risk it?". Simple answer, because I want to, and can. It will make me feel better, both mentally and physically. As I have very aggressive turtling, I won't feel so embarrassed as I am now showing my 2" flaccid, be that when getting changed in the gym or in front of a lady. Even though we were married for years I still was embarrassed showing it after a shower or getting undressed.

It will result in better sex (almost guaranteed). I mean, I can't think of any reason as not do it. As a largely low risk procedure, there are hardly any negatives.
It's obvious most women prefer girth to length, and my X wife was a perfect example. She was pretty loose for my 5.5" girth, not surprising after the years of sex and of course, giving birth.
On some occasions I added a finger or 2 during intercourse, the pleasure and noises she made and experienced shortly before cuming were so damn evident, if I were thicker, it would be more pleasurable and enjoyable for the both of us without the use of fingers (or anything else!). This is just an example, but there are many more similar experiences I recall having with my x wife that I could go into, but this is not an erotica post and I've droned on a bit too much already!

Plan

I wanted to do manual PE for as long as possible and achieve gains until I plateaued, this was when I had planned to use fillers to get instant and max girth gains. Due to the injury, this plan is now kaput for the foreseeable future and I honestly don't know how long it will take to fully recover.....ENTER PLAN B!

Androfill Ellanse vs AvantiDerma PMMA Conundrum

Considering I will be doing some (and then some) waiting before I can get back into manual PE, I've made up my mind to go for fillers.
I've read many threads, the majority of which are AvantiDerma PMMA. Almost all have been amazingly successful and only one a complete disaster from what I have read anyway (Miracle8x7). Doing my research, I have come to the conclusion that I am not the perfect candidate of whom are;

Showers - zero to little turtling
Circumcised
Slender/lean build
Minimal fat pad

As I am not circumcised and the complete opposite to an ideal candidate (I can be anything from FL 2" - 4" and FG 2.5" - 4.5"), I'm wondering if I'd have bad results because of this. To give you an idea of how much I change - BPEL 7.2" BEEG 5.5". I'm sure you'd agree that from 2" FL to 7.2" BFEL is a BIG difference.

Androfill Consultation

I went to see Gary Horn today as I wanted to listen to an experienced professional after researching many months, and his advise wasn't exactly in line with the majority, or AvantiDerma (website details) for that matter. I was hoping I'd have almost all of my questions answered, including some clarification on the conundrum, but to my disappointment, I'm even more confused as to what to do.

First off, he said he WOULD NOT use Ellanse as a first time patient, only HA. Secondly, he said DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT PMMA. Ellanse is as far as anyone should go.

To be honest, I was a little disheartened, mainly due to Mr Horn not really assessing anything, and it seemed like a pretty rushed "consultation". I would have thought he would at least check my Johnson for elasticity or general condition to see if I was a good or bad candidate, but instead, he literally looked at it for 4 seconds, measured length and girth (2 seconds each!) and that was it.....

I asked about the benefits of circumcision, he said there weren't any really, just have to mold it so that the filler doesn't go to the base of the foreskin (which I already knew). To summarise, from the very brief "consultation" I was underwhelmed and even more confused as to what route to take. Maybe it's just me and I was expecting too much, buy hey ho!

Regardless, kind of put me off to be honest. Anyway, here are my options and potentially yours if you're in the same predicament as me;

1. Go all out, get as close to an ideal client as possible by getting circumcised and book an appointment for AvantiDerma in Mexico for PMMA
2. Get circumcised and do HA first with Androfill or equivalent UK doctor
3. Get circumcised and find a reputable company to do Elanse first
4.Play it safe, no circumcision, do HA first (which naturally dissolves in months) and see how it goes, however I fear this will give worst results and put me off doing any filler altogether considering I am not the ideal candidate, plus, it really does seem like a waste of money

I know you guys won't be able to choose for me and I don't expect you to, but it would be amazing to hear from anyone who has been injected with ANY filler who have a similar anatomy to me.
This would certainly help to render my decision as well as those who are in my shoes.


Thank you all!

cushen79 wrote:

Texas wrote: I have , and its documented.
I also do not use the "bone pressed" measurements. I do track that number from time to time as a data point though, but i don't use the number in my own goal seeking tracking.

You short answer is , YES, there is the ability to gain length after a procedure. There is no science as to whether it would or would not have been easier to make any gains before having received a filler, so not point in discussing it. There is theory to support both sides.

If you planning to get serious with your PE work, then map out a plan and stick to it or it will not work. Its like losing weight or gaining muscle or building a six pack, it wont happen quickly . And track everything, pictures, measurements from all ways and angles.

What hanger have you found is best? I’d tried the phallosan forte but it wouldn’t stay in place or be concealed enough for me to wear it at work. The noose hanger isn’t bad, just wonder if there’s anything like it but better.

@cushen79
I hated the phallosan personally.
I have different hangers and stretchers depending on what i am doing. For hangers, I prefer compression / clamp styles. Like the Phanger, Bib, Male Hanger, etc.

For stretchers, I use multiple different things depending on where I am going, what I am doing and what I am wearing. Shoot me a message if you want to talk more about what you do and wear etc.
But, suffice it to say, based on how tight your pants are will depend on what you can get away with, sleeves may be your best bet when working. Or, my personal favorite, wearing weights on my penis.

Texas wrote: I have , and its documented.
I also do not use the "bone pressed" measurements. I do track that number from time to time as a data point though, but i don't use the number in my own goal seeking tracking.

You short answer is , YES, there is the ability to gain length after a procedure. There is no science as to whether it would or would not have been easier to make any gains before having received a filler, so not point in discussing it. There is theory to support both sides.

If you planning to get serious with your PE work, then map out a plan and stick to it or it will not work. Its like losing weight or gaining muscle or building a six pack, it wont happen quickly . And track everything, pictures, measurements from all ways and angles.

What hanger have you found is best? I’d tried the phallosan forte but it wouldn’t stay in place or be concealed enough for me to wear it at work. The noose hanger isn’t bad, just wonder if there’s anything like it but better.

Agreed. I understand there can be frustration. We need/must support each other. This is not a "simple" topic. There is a lot of emotions that can get tied up in it. If it is nervousness from the surgery. Lord knows I about passed out twice while waiting. Or the emotions I certainly know I have for not measuring up. I want to at least in my part share my experiences, answer questions, and help make an informed decision. So no question is out of bounds for me. I know that I wish I had started a stretching routine before the surgery.
I had bought years ago the male edge stretcher. Damn thing hurt too much. So, I gave up and went to have the surgery. Later I discovered phallosan which is way more comfortable. The only thing I worry about now is damaging the "implant".
However, I am going to stretch and see what happens slowly and maybe the gods of PE will help me out. Just need two more centimeters .

Sorry took so long. Holidays . Anyway, I didn't know there were different styles the link you sent helped. I believe mine falls in the "normal" category. My penis is on the shorter side so there is a possible "high and tight".

Please feel free to ask any questions. I don't mind. It was this forum that helped me decide to do PMMA. I really have nothing so far to say negative about it. I just wish my penis was longer for more rounds. That is why I decided to do phallosan for a year to see if I can gain anything with weight loss. I have set a goal if I can read 15 cm or larger nonbone press. I will do one more round.
I am using phallosan 7 hours a day 6 days a week. If their study is to be believed I should reach that goal in one year. I need 2 more centimeters to get there. I am going to wait till October to see what happens. If I go above 15 great!!! Otherwise will have to evaluate when the day comes.

I have many devices. the only device I can wear between 6-12 hours a day 7 days a week is this one phallosan.com
that is because this one doesn't stop bloodflow to the glans and also can tuck into my waistband
sometimes I miss a day and for this I have both the restorex and the adnropenis...I like the restorex the most and I have another post about how to use it comfortably...

the gold standard for doing stretching is 9 hours a day for 300 days+
some outliers seem to get up to 1.5" length and the worst are .5" and 1" average...there is some nominal girth reported...

I also like the phallosan because I can randomly and discretely practice kegels while wearing it

Oh and I also have some pumps but dont use them much

That is my line of thinking. I have set a new goal. I am using a phallosan for the next year or two. If I can hit 6+. I will do one more round and "retire". I have set a goal to see where I am a year from now around the October timeframe.

I have this device
(I also have the phallosan belt and stretcher as well as the andropenis stretcher)

so far there has been no perfect device if you have the money, each one has pros and cons

but speaking to this one
the anchoring at the pelvis is good
the springs are good
for me I am 7" fully stretched right now (hoping for 9" max stretch which probably is like an 7.5" penis...I'm about 6.5 bone to tip right now))
I had to make it as long as possible with the longer rods and I can get a little more length out of the device in the future by using the curvature bars and moving the clamp out.

It claims 30 min 2x per day vs 9hrs
I don't know about that, but a few things are good
PROS
1. it is backed by mayo so it's unlikely to cause damage if used as directed
2. the springs are strong (I usually ratchet it and release the springs, wait a few minutes, lock the springs and ratchet more and then release it again and then pull it open further with my hand so the springs can extend further (the springs are able to maintain this tension).
3. it goes straight out from the body (it's oriented better than any other device relative to what an erect penis would be angled at), this seems good because erect length is what matters most to me

CONS
1. it hurts like hell (in order to get it tight enough to pull hard I need to clamp it very tight) I can usually tolerate this for 30m, but it's the most painful device I own
2. it's easy for the glans to slip out of the vice grip (I have tried small rubber sleeves on my glans as well as the 3m medical tape it comes with (I purchased a lot more).
(1&2 are related...like to prevent 2 you need to suffer 1, you can find a balance, but it's not great)

EDIT
I just started using these amazon.com/gp/product/B082VZG9RY finger sleeves (AKA Finger Protectors, Finger Cots,).
They are very thick and a bit small even for my relatively small flaccid glans (however they are stretchy and for 1 hour of wear even a much thicker penis would be fine in them)
The cushioning and padding of these thick finger cots makes the device way more comfortable for up to an hour.
I like that this device is Mayo Clinic backed and designed for peyronie's disease and thus unlikely to cause excessive tissue trauma that could later induce scar tissue and ironically peyronie's disease and thus shortening...exactly what we don't want. Thus, given these cots plus the device plus my technique I feel I get the max amount of safe stretch from it...a lot but not too much.

Has anyone used one of these (Penimaster Pro, Phallosan Forte) after getting the Penuma implant?

How was your experience? Any complications?

I’m torn between Phallosan Forte and Penimaster Pro. My research suggests PP is the best, but I really want one I can wear to work without anyone noticing, and PF seems best for that.

Can you wear PP inconspicuously as well?

I do not find the quality of the phallosan forte extender to be good. But I do love the vacuum cap and I use it together with the penimaster pro extender and rods.

I wouldn’t sleep with it on though.