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I'm not terribly sure I understand the premise of your topic but we do not promote "chemical" penis enlargement experimentation. For the uninitiated, "Chemical PE" is an avenue where some men experiment with a supplement or injection (or a combination of said-materials) in order to aid and/or promote growth of their penis. I say "aid" because Chemical PE has sometimes been used in conjunction with manual PE exercises (stretching, hanging, jelqing, clamping, pumping, etc).

Chemical PE's merits are generally theoretical and virtually all the evidence is anecdotal. The problem I have with this avenue of penis enlargement is that men begin assuming qualifications reserved for medical professionals because they did "some reading on the internet," and are mislead to believe it is "safe if you know what you're doing." The reality is that if Chemical PE could be legit, but there simply isn't enough evidence making a strong case for it. PhalloBoards 2.0 had a designated sub-category for the topic, but I've decided against any sort of self-injection techniques moving forward.

If that wasn't what you were implying or suggesting, my apologies. Perhaps you can elaborate if I was mistaken? Otherwise, this topic wont be going anywhere.
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Hello everyone,

I realize there are many posts like this in the archives (not to mention Thundersplace and other such forums) and I've been slowly making my way through them, but I wanted to start a new thread seeking advice on how to gain length in a safe and efficient manner in order to renew interest in this topic on the forum. Additionally, I intend on getting a procedure for girth in the (hopefully) not to distant future and feel that it would be best to ask a community of those who have gotten or intend on getting the same what methods, routines, equipment, etc. they have used, which has worked (or not) for them as they journeyed to achieve an increase in length before (or after) a girth enhancement procedure.

I previously toyed around with the BibHanger, at one point getting up to 12lbs. (between the cheeks), but my EQ was awful so I stopped. I also used the ESL40 ADS but became frustrated as the silicone cap would constantly slip off the glans. I own and occasionally use the Bathmate (for girth) but find it doesn't produce anything other than temporary gains (lasting a few hours or less). I also did some manual PE (stretching and jelqing) but became extremely frustrated by how tedious it was.

I recently purchased the Total Man Ultimate Penis Enlargement Kit that comes with silicone sleeves, a compression hanger (one more compact than the Bib), a rod extension device, a vacuum extender, and a ADS strap. For $330 (including shipping) I found it to be a relatively good deal (though I could be wrong). I'll keep the community informed as to the quality and durability of the products if any are so interested.

But if anyone can offer advice, tips, routines, or resources to help me gain some length, it would be greatly appreciated.

JS

Chapter I, 7/31/19
Hello fellow members. After years of casual reading, I finally took the plunge with PMMA. I’m sitting in my room at the Grand Hotel Tijuana, just returned from my procedure. Let’s start from the beginning. I’ve got nothing but time on my hands, so this post is going to be quite long. I wouldn’t blame anyone for skipping large parts of it.
One of my first porn experiences was a site dedicated to big penises. Porn is all about placing yourself in the situation, and I think the appeal of big dick porn to straight guys is that we get to imagine that a pornstar is worshipping our massive member. I was only about 12 or 13, and didn’t know anything about women wanting that. I once had two friends over after school, and while I was in the bathroom, they looked through my browsing history and found it. They proceeded to make fun of me for it, and told a bunch of kids at school. One girl even made a reference to it when she signed my yearbook. This was my first experience with friends who weren’t really my friends.
Regardless, I knew from a pretty early age that a huge dick was something I wanted. Being a teenager, I didn’t even know that PE was a thing. Some research did turn up something called jelqing, but I could never figure it out, and I always just ended up masturbating. The funny thing is that I was always above average. My first girlfriend, when pressed, said that I was “pretty big.” Of course, mine was the first she’d ever handled, so she didn’t really know anything, and I didn’t trust her opinion. Anyway, that relationship continued while I was in college, and she remained the only girl who had ever seen my dick until we broke up when I was 22.
When I was in college, I had a huge crush on a girl who never felt the same way. I spent a lot of time with her and her roommates, and we’ll call one of them Abby. There was this really rat faced guy who was interested in Abby, and she started sleeping with him pretty quickly. When she announced that to me, I made a sort of quizzical face, and she almost immediately replied “He has a huge dick.” I laughed that off, but the memory stuck with me. He didn’t really have anything going for him other than that, and that was enough.
After college, I went through a prolonged period of involuntary celibacy, while I was massively underemployed and living with my parents.

Dr giunta did my surgery. It wasn't anything special like a y or anything. It was just a straight incision perpendicular to my penis. About a inch wide. I would also like to say it took years of stretching to achieve that length. I also stretched and pumped for years before my light surgery and I could never cement my gains. I wrapped with surgical sensitive skin tape after jelqing or pumping with a fitted cylinder.

I was doing pe (jelqing, tension wrapping, pumping, clamping) off and on for years but could never cement my gains because my lig was so tight. After I got my lig cut by Dr giunta, I mostly did alot of over hand jelqing with a full fist and tension wrapping after. I also have a few other stretches I can't fully explain. Daily Wrapping seemed to help me cement my gains with turtle during normal daily routine, work, sleep and exercise. The only time I wasn't wrapping was during sex and showering and even then I wear cock rings(took a while to find the perfect ones that didn't cut off circulation and soft enough for long-term use). I eventually developed a really bad scrotal web from all the stretching and gains. About six months ago I had my web reduced, also by giunta. Now I'm just working on my girth. And hoping that I have good results from Fft. My starting girth was 5.5 before surgery and it's now a little over 7 mid shaft. Trying to get to 8x8 Iol. know all of the common failures associated with the procedure but alot of guys have also had success. I would love to hear the good and the bad experiences.

Hi all! So I took finally got PMMA today! I'm just bringing this initial post over to the new site with my background. I will update with the outcome shortly....

So I'm finally taking the plunge and scheduled an appointment w/ Dr. Casavantes at Avanti Derma on Dec 10th. Let's call it an x-mas gift to myself lol. I am a long time lurker on this forum who has calculated the risk/reward and is ready to take action. First an foremost, I am grateful to SO and all the admins who collected and grew such a vast wealth of information on this forum. There is nothing like it regarding the world of Phalloplasty. Also, to all the PMMA pioneers who took the plunge before me.

I will be getting the signature package done. Staying for two nights so hopefully can followup w/ the staff up until my departure from Tiajuana. I'm hopefully looking to gain at least 1.25" in EG after 2-3 rounds....10% and 30% concentration base. I've also been using the X4 Labs extender since July. Been average about 25 hrs/week...will up the time (35-40/week) in device next 3 months. Not in any hurry with it as I've heard people gaining in EL post-PMMA. I've already gained .25 in BPEL after roughly 220 hours of use, only thing that has ever worked for me in the PE world. Also, I've noticed a ridiculous positive PI after extending, specifically with morning EQ. Also on a healthy eating plan to cut some weight and tackle the dreaded "fat pad".

Life has been great to me. I am in my mid-30s, married with kids. I have a great and exciting career. I always keep in shape and eat healthy. I am a pretty good looking guy and have a lot of confidence. But strangely, there will always be something in the back of my mind that really just holds me back and that's the size of my member. Statistically, I know I am on the smaller side and def a good candidate for PMMA. Its tough to always shy away in the gym showers or have to go in the stall vs the urinal. Its tough to wear dress pants and be completely absent of a natural bulge. For a decade, I've tried ALL sorts of penis enlargement: manual stretching, jelqing, pumping, hanging, traction. Most of it resulted in injury and bruising and NO gains. And quite frankly, I would just give up after 1-3 months. which is partly my fault.

I've had very decent success with women in my life. Even with my lack of size, I still "motioned" the ocean and made women climax. However, there is something about there being the possibility of a woman climaxing HARD and quickly because they are getting stretched like they aren't used to. And I can't wait to possess it!
To Be Contniued......

Gg82 wrote: Thanks for the extensive introductory post.

A couple of questions:
- how did circumcision improved your sexlife? Did you have a serrated phimosis untill then?
I’m not considering circumcision myself as of now, cause I’ve read it can be pretty traumatic in some guys that get it done as adults. This vary a lot from guy to guy, but some report a feeling of “mutilation” which takes a big mental tool on them.
Also, i read it can take some time to adjust to the different stimulation and sexual sensation.

- did you do any previous natural Penis Enlargment? You were pretty big to start with, especially if that length is NBPEL.


Looking forward to see your progress, good luck!

No problem!

I had mild phimosis. I couldn't retract when I was erect, and if for some reason it managed to start to (if I was using a lot of lube for example) it would get stuck/hung up and then that pretty much interrupted the moment. I had to try and get it back over, sometimes it almost had flipped itself if that makes sense. It was more than enough to really affect sex.

I won't lie... I was *extremely* nervous getting it done, at least prior to meeting my doctor. I put it off for years, avoided it, let it affect my relationships. I was terrified of regretting it, or it not being done correctly, or too tight again in a different way. I read about guys feeling how you mentioned, regretful or mutilated, not able to reason with why they did it to themselves.

The urologist/surgeon that did it was awesome. He was fairly young and enthusiastic. He told that me irregardless of what I've been told or read, if I go ahead with it, I would be happy given my situation. He took a ton of time showing me what he was going to do and how. And that some more senior surgeons who were also doing it via government healthcare tended to just basically clamp and cut. He assured me he'd work carefully and give me a result I'd be happy with and proud of, with enough skin left to be comfortable at all times but look good. He just was really calming. So my advice to you, would be to find the right person to do it. The stimulation thing is less of a big deal than I thought. At one point prior, I pulled it back deliberately while flaccid and tried going about some normal activities and it drove me nuts. I mentioned that to the doc and he basically said by the time I'm done with the surgery, go through the healing process and how all that feels, I won't be concerned with how that felt before. And you know what, he was correct. I haven't lost sensitivity yet like they say you do over time with full exposure, but it doesn't bother me 99% of the time. I did find I preferred tighter, softer boxer briefs after as opposed to loose boxers. But even that has gradually changed, now I don't mind wearing them. I'll be honest with you, the two worst parts of the whole experience to me were 1) the lead up and anxiety over all of these listed issues and 2) the damn stitches after surgery (and unintentional erections while you have them). The stitches drove me NUTS. Snag on your shorts when you move, so you feel it, a wind blows they move, you feel it. That was the worst aspect over all, hands down.

No natural PE consistently. When I was a teen I discovered this thing called jelqing (lol) on the internet and I did do a fair bit of that because.... hey, I'll get a big dick! I think that's partially where the desire started. I actually swear I was longer around 17-20 age range but it's awhile ago now. Could be weight or even erection quality or whatever. I'm a fairly ok weight of about 170-175 and I'm 5' 10". Next up came the pump... I did pump a bit but nothing crazy. However, that REALLY made me want a thicker penis. Actually, waking up this morning and how I felt after the procedure reminded me of the shape and feeling after I pumped fairly large the first time.

Anyway, if you're debating a circumcision and feel you have a legit reason, don't be afraid of it, just get the right doc and go over what you want thoroughly.

I'll be doing an update on my post status hopefully today before I have to leave, I should have a gap after my check up and right now I'm going to go back to resting and trying to keep this thing engorged and massaged.

I know of Big Al, not sure what the squeeze thing is, but if its anything like jelqing I'd skip it. Not worth potential injury. The ellanse procedure will take care of the girth!

Thank you very much for your answer.
Yes, i have already checked thundersplace, and also tried jelqing. But that was before i had a succesful girth enhanchment. Now all i need is more lenght. And so if extenders, as most anectodical reports tend to show, work...well lets say i would very much prefer to get my lenght without having to do some sort of 'penis workout' , and rather just put the extender there and let it do his work. Plus i doubt jelq (if it works at all,and then if it worked for me) would work in the same way with all the procedure girth inbetween my skin and my complex vessels structure.
And so, having found years ago in this very website a serious report of a guy (sizemic) who gained almost an inch with extenders , i was searching for similar experiences to get the strenght and try put the hours of patience with that thing between my legs.
but i need one that doesnt constrict my erections: an extenders for large penises. Now,do they make that,or someone like me should craft one for himself?
Given the amount of people with large penises in this website,i am hoping to found someone like me to help me .

WEEK 9

Hi all, it\'s been a month since I last updated. Here\'s the key points of what has transpired since my last update:

Week 6 was when I was cleared by Dr. Solomon to start using the Autoxleeve. The instructions are to hang for 6 hours a day with the 14oz weight and sleeve. I typically hang 2 - 3 hours in the morning, and 3+ hours when I get home at night.After hanging for 3 hours, flaccid length is stretched out, but it is temporary.Erection length has at least returned to pre-op length. The temporary length loss was due to swelling. Time will tell if EL will go past pre-op length.Swelling has completely gone away.Sometimes I\'ll feel a little dribble of urine involuntarily. This has been happening less and less. I should check with the Dr. to see what was causing this.Sometimes I\'ll feel a twinge of pain randomly, either when hanging or not. I should check with the Dr. to see what was causing this.
Open questions:

1) I wonder if I should start doing PE again. Either jelqing or hanging. The Autoxleeve is really just an ADS.

PROGRESS PICS

Pink tissue (new skin from where the scab separated)


Using the Autoxleeve

Absolutely, it freaked me out. I think it was Chester who helped me out and let me know it was normal. He was right. The internal structure is not only swollen but the nerves are responding to trauma causing retraction. All this will cause noticeable shrinkage. Secondly your body is producing scar tissue making things tighter. Once you start stretching, hanging, whatever you decide. This will break up scar tissue and help to extend things out to previous, then additional length. Dr. Rosenthal suggested ice packs when I had abdominal swelling, it helped.
Regards
LL

Hey LL, you were right. Length gradually came back as swelling subsided. Your support is much appreciated!

nohidingstyle thanks for the suggestion! I've done a ton of research on natural PE (thundersplace etc) and have tried a couple different techniques. I tried jelqing and manually stretching for about a year with no results other than excellent EQ. I'm giving a penis traction device a try. I've also looked at getting an all day stretcher like the ESL40. Something to give me a solid stretch during the day.

briceb thanks for the welcome! You nailed it, my main concern is the 'pig in the blanket' look after PMMA. I definitely want to increase my girth and PMMA is the route I'm going to go. I've traded emails with Ian and Dr. M at Avanti Derma and expressed my concerns about this. They have been great answering my questions and seem truly interested in helping me get the results I'm aiming at. I'm going to stretch and get my flaccid length better before getting PMMA.

havingfun73 thank you very much for sharing your attempts at approaching your wife. I'm happy for you. Sounds like she is very supportive and that is where I want to get with my wife. I'm ultimately doing this for me and I need her to understand and support me. This has been too much of a weight on my mind for too long and I'm now at a place where I fully understand the risks/rewards and just need to do it. I'll end up just ripping the bandaid as the saying goes.

Hello Everyone,

New poster here. Actually, I'm a long time stalker of several years and wanted to introduce myself before adding comments and/or asking questions on another post.

First, let me tell you about myself. I'm 53, 5' 6' tall, and weigh about 190 pounds, not fat, not slim, muscular. I've been happily married for 30 years, have 2 grown adult children, and a grand child. I live in the SE U.S., have a well paying job, a great home, and in the eyes of the ones I love, have no problems/issues. Well, on paper, that is true. There is the one exception that has dogged me all my life, my small penis. Even though I'm considered average at 5' BPEL and 5' BEG I've always considered myself small, really small. That's probably because I'm a serious 'grower' at 1.5' FL and 2' BFG. This has always been an issue for me starting at about age 15.

Like many of you, being naked in front of anyone was terrifying and I avoided it at all costs. Even at this age I still avoid busy times at the gym just to avoid showering in the locker room. I shouldn't give a crap but I can't stop the feeling of being below average.

I don't have any great stories to tell about sexual experiences because they are limited. I've only had sex with 3 women. Yep, only 3. I had many opportunities in the past but my confidence was almost nonexistent and I would find a way to sabotage the situation. If it wasn't for alcohol I probably wouldn't have met my wife.

Over the past 35+ years I've been searching for the 'magic bullet' I was less than reluctant to even consider surgical methods. Cutting into my dick just wasn't an option for me at a younger age. So, I waited. Tried pumping, jelqing, and stretching without success. Frankly, I've gotten to an age where my concerns of side effects are fading. PMMA girth enhancement appears to be just what I've been waiting for for so long.

So, I've added this long post to introduce myself and have you as my witnesses that I will prepare myself to take the PMMA plunge. I plan on losing at least 15 pounds and use a traction device to stretch my penis and take away some of the retraction problem. My biggest challenge will be easing my wife into the idea of male enhancement. Anyway, thanks to all of you who have already gone ahead of me and shared your journey both good and bad. It is invaluable information that helps analyze the pros and cons.

Thundersplace. It actually served as a model when I created the first forum and this current one. They specialize more in manual penis enlargement: stretching, hanging, pumping, jelqing, etc.

Thanks LL. Got a few questions for you off the top of my head (these are all specific to post lig cut since I\'ve done it already):

1) How soon after lig cut did you start jelqing?
2) How soon after lig cut did you start clamping?
3) What\'s your average daily routine - how many hours manual, hanging, ADS, ANS, etc?
4) Have you done PMMA/Ellanse/HA/etc? If so, how soon after your lig cut?

1. Would say maybe 6 months before I Jelked again. Honestly though I had residual swelling that gave me substantial girth for at least 5 months. I was actually concerned about it but slowly went away. In my case I didn\'t want to introduce more blood into it.
2. I\'ve always been thicker at 5.5 mid 5.9 at base so I\'ve never done any girth work never needed it. Pumping I do is strictly for asthetics when I just want a little extra or we go to nudist areas. The bib hanger I used years ago felt a like clamping though. Clamping and related activities deserve full research and understanding because the opportunity to permenently damage your penis is high. Be safe!!
3. Before I had a lig cut I went as high as 8 -9 hours a day combining ADS ESL40 7 hours, and vac hanging 2 hours. Did this on and off for years sometimes working in extending in the evening instead. I originally started with a flaccid penis of 3.5 inches and these methods only solidified a 1/2 inch perminent gain. I originally started though with manual stretching and conditioning my penis before I used any devices.

Currently though I have no more suspensory ligament to contend with, so my program is much different and less aggressive. Every other day I vac hang moderate weight 8 pounds for 30 minutes before work. I do 15 minutes weight hanging between the cheeks and 15 just seated in a chair straight down. I do manual stretching everyday in the shower. When I come home from work I do a custom wrap on my penis for comfort and I strap in my extender. I can really crank down the tension with little to no discomfort. I wear it until I go to bed. Taking it off to jelk and helicopter every hour and a half. I usually get in 4 hours a night. I try to stay very fit as well. Adipose tissue (fat) around the abdomen can hide a significant portion of your penis. Low bf definitely makes your dick look bigger believe me, I\'ve dropped 30lbs since my lig cut. I work out 5-6 times a week weight training and add cardio to it every other day. Working out your penis is important too, I kegel while wearing my extender as well and the bars tell me how much force I\'m pulling. I take fish oil, a men\'s active daily vitamin, protein, glutamine and CLA for maintaining a healthy weight ( literature is not 100% on CLA btw). And I drink a lot water and tea. Oh also take L Licene for tissue health.

3. I plan on doing Ellanse or Voluma. My wife is very against this as she says she can barely take me as it is. It would definitely push me well over 6 inches girth at my base so I feel her concerns. But again, I like my erection size, so I would only be doing it to make my flaccid look even bigger. I\'m in no rush. I believe cheaper, longer lasting REVERSIBLE fillers are the future. Time will tell.

Be Very careful how much force you put on your penis after this procedure. If you put a lot of stress on it too early you can open up your incision. It happened to me, be careful, a setback could cost you. If you have any questions let me know. I have been a pumper, ADS ESL40 wearer, jelker, Bibhanger, Vac hanger and used the X4 extender. I used these for years before I ever got the lig cut.

Regards,
LL

Thanks LL. Got a few questions for you off the top of my head (these are all specific to post lig cut since I\'ve done it already):

1) How soon after lig cut did you start jelqing?
2) How soon after lig cut did you start clamping?
3) What\'s your average daily routine - how many hours manual, hanging, ADS, ANS, etc?
4) Have you done PMMA/Ellanse/HA/etc? If so, how soon after your lig cut?