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26 Nov 2020 16:25
I got the circumcision earlier this year with the hopes to get the filler afterwards but then covid hit. So I instead have been focusing on jelqing and pumping. I got a circumcision and I didn’t specify I wanted a “tight” cut. When erect it’s fine, meaning there’s no problem. But when I’m flaccid the skin hangs slightly over my shaft, kind of like I’m still uncircumcised. I read elsewhere that the filler cannot go into the newly exposed part of the shaft- is that right?
30 Sep 2020 22:45

snakecharm3r wrote: I didn’t get PMMA, I got HA. Also the bunching happened before I started doing any manual PE or stretching. I have since stopped jelqing and gone to stretching.

The pump works awesome for me so I’m going to continue to use it unless someone here knows otherwise?

Also the pain has subsided finally. I’m going to schedule a consultation to see how much another 10 would be. I’m also considering going the PMMA route once I do a bit more research because $7000 every year is a bit much for me


Oh ok. I haven't been on here for a long time so I don't even know what HA is or stand for..lol.. but I'll search around to find out. Is that a better alternative from PMMA?
30 Sep 2020 22:43

Skeptical_One wrote:

New1inch wrote:

snakecharm3r wrote: Just wanted to give an update as it’s been about a month now since injections. I’ve regained most of the lost EL, though I have been doing manual PE and trying to pump when I can. Since the product has bunched at the circ scar, doing jelqs is very awkward. My EQ has improved some, but it’s not where it was before yet. I have been taking some viagra when I know I’m gonna get lucky and that’s worked out pretty well. I’m still experiencing some pain at the circ scar on palpating and when I have an erection. I also have pain at the pubic pad where it meets the base. I’m hoping it resolves in the next month and Once it goes away I’ll be scheduling another appointment to get another 10ml and hopefully even it out down the shaft towards the base.

Current stats are
FL 4-4.5 FMG 5 FBG 4.5
EL 6 EMG 5.5 EBG 5


Hey, so just wondering why are you still trying to do jelqs? You can’t do that with PMMA in your penis. That’s why it’s bunching to the glans. Stop doing that immediately. Also I thought pumping was bad for pmma, does the doc say it’s ok? Just stick to Manual stretching. Jelqing is a girth exercise, you don’t need that anymore. Just do the stretching for length. I plan to start hanging again after my procedure personally to gain some length. Would love to use a pump for added girth but I’m not sure that’s wise or not. I’d have to do more research on that.


You can still jelq with PMMA (assuming it's all settled). Not saying it's necessary or worthwhile, but saying it can't be done isn't entirely accurate. Just clearing that up.


You can do a lot of things after getting PMMA. The question is, is it a smart idea to do such a thing. I personally wouldn't, as I know how vigorous Jelqing is. But to each their own though ya know.
30 Sep 2020 21:32
I didn’t get PMMA, I got HA. Also the bunching happened before I started doing any manual PE or stretching. I have since stopped jelqing and gone to stretching.

The pump works awesome for me so I’m going to continue to use it unless someone here knows otherwise?

Also the pain has subsided finally. I’m going to schedule a consultation to see how much another 10 would be. I’m also considering going the PMMA route once I do a bit more research because $7000 every year is a bit much for me
30 Sep 2020 15:18

New1inch wrote:

snakecharm3r wrote: Just wanted to give an update as it’s been about a month now since injections. I’ve regained most of the lost EL, though I have been doing manual PE and trying to pump when I can. Since the product has bunched at the circ scar, doing jelqs is very awkward. My EQ has improved some, but it’s not where it was before yet. I have been taking some viagra when I know I’m gonna get lucky and that’s worked out pretty well. I’m still experiencing some pain at the circ scar on palpating and when I have an erection. I also have pain at the pubic pad where it meets the base. I’m hoping it resolves in the next month and Once it goes away I’ll be scheduling another appointment to get another 10ml and hopefully even it out down the shaft towards the base.

Current stats are
FL 4-4.5 FMG 5 FBG 4.5
EL 6 EMG 5.5 EBG 5


Hey, so just wondering why are you still trying to do jelqs? You can’t do that with PMMA in your penis. That’s why it’s bunching to the glans. Stop doing that immediately. Also I thought pumping was bad for pmma, does the doc say it’s ok? Just stick to Manual stretching. Jelqing is a girth exercise, you don’t need that anymore. Just do the stretching for length. I plan to start hanging again after my procedure personally to gain some length. Would love to use a pump for added girth but I’m not sure that’s wise or not. I’d have to do more research on that.


You can still jelq with PMMA (assuming it's all settled). Not saying it's necessary or worthwhile, but saying it can't be done isn't entirely accurate. Just clearing that up.
30 Sep 2020 14:28

snakecharm3r wrote: Just wanted to give an update as it’s been about a month now since injections. I’ve regained most of the lost EL, though I have been doing manual PE and trying to pump when I can. Since the product has bunched at the circ scar, doing jelqs is very awkward. My EQ has improved some, but it’s not where it was before yet. I have been taking some viagra when I know I’m gonna get lucky and that’s worked out pretty well. I’m still experiencing some pain at the circ scar on palpating and when I have an erection. I also have pain at the pubic pad where it meets the base. I’m hoping it resolves in the next month and Once it goes away I’ll be scheduling another appointment to get another 10ml and hopefully even it out down the shaft towards the base.

Current stats are
FL 4-4.5 FMG 5 FBG 4.5
EL 6 EMG 5.5 EBG 5


Hey, so just wondering why are you still trying to do jelqs? You can’t do that with PMMA in your penis. That’s why it’s bunching to the glans. Stop doing that immediately. Also I thought pumping was bad for pmma, does the doc say it’s ok? Just stick to Manual stretching. Jelqing is a girth exercise, you don’t need that anymore. Just do the stretching for length. I plan to start hanging again after my procedure personally to gain some length. Would love to use a pump for added girth but I’m not sure that’s wise or not. I’d have to do more research on that.
14 Sep 2020 21:41

antoineclamaran wrote: Are there more people talking about penis enlargement on other forums?

I do not know any other internet forums, so I respectfully ask the moderators or anyone rlse to point me in the right direction if there are internet places where I can talk about these things.


Yes, but the only forum that is devoted to phalloplasty is this one. The rest of them are largely focused on manual PE exercises (like pumping, stretching, jelqing, etc) or are focused on non-size issues (Peyronies, micropenis, etc). You can try PEGym or Thundersplace for starters.
09 Sep 2020 18:51

Sketch2000 wrote:

greygreygrey wrote: I thought I would start off a diary here.

My journey with penis enlargement has been going on for over 6 years now, which started with jelqing, then went to extending, pumping, hanging, clamping, you name it. With a very dedicated routine, I managed to gain 0" in girth, and 0" in length. I had some gains in flaccid stretched length, sure, but I don't walk around stretching out my flaccid dick for everyone to see.

My current stats:
NBPEL: 6"
MEG: 4.73" at the widest
Glans EG: 4.25"

After very disappointing results with manual PE methods, I've thrown in the towel and decided I need to go with fillers. Something I've considered even during my manual PE journey is that a circumcision might be necessary in order to get good results with things like vacuum hanging. I've always pushed aside the idea in the past because I hear about horror stories of how a circumcision ruined people's sensation, that they might lose EL from a tight circumcision, etc. Now I've come to realize after doing research that a circumcision might be necessary for me to get results from fillers and I'm okay with that. I think aesthetically it might look more pleasing and it might even make sex better. I've slightly cut my frenulum in the past and condoms usually don't fill me very well when I'm thrusting and my foreskin is sliding back and forth.

So, I've decided I'm going to get a circumcision in advance of getting my ellanse fillers. A 1" gain in EG would be amazing for me, and I'm sure my girlfriend would love it too, though I wouldn't tell her. We already have a great sex life, and fortunately I took her virginity so I never had the insecurity hanging over my head that she likes sex with bigger dicks. But I know that she would enjoy it given how much her vagina can stretch, and that I've disappointed girls in the past with my size. I think girls usually expect me to be a lot bigger because I'm athletic as well.

Thanks for reading, I will post pictures along my journey as well.


Thank you for your post.
I too am ready to start my journey. I'm 39 and have messed around with manual PE for about 6 years now....various gains on and off but nothing significant to mention.
It seems like fillers are really the "new age" of treatment for this and comparable to what women (and men) have been doing to enhance certain parts of their body for years now.
So I feel like I"m ready to make that jump too.
I just filled out a contact form with Dr. Morganstern - not sure who you are planning on using but given he is a sponsor and several people have gone to have fillers done i have some feedback to go on.
I'll likely have to get circumcised too....if i can find a general urologist to do it and cover it under my insurance it would be much cheaper. Not sure what route your considering?


Just saw this reply you wrote. I'm in my late 20s and while it would have been nice doing these procedures sooner, I think I'm glad I didn't because we had so many trailblazers come before us on these forums to learn what are the best and least risky procedures to go with. I think that going with these non-permanent fillers is the way to go, and the highest risk being that it could look irregular but that can be corrected through small top offs.

I considered Dr. Morganstern especially because he's in the US, but cost-wise Avanti is cheaper and it seems like they have just as much experience with fillers. As far as circumcision goes, it won't be covered by insurance because it is considered cosmetic unless you have severe functional issues. The anesthesia will be covered by insurance though. I think I will expect to pay anywhere from $1K-$1.5K for the procedure out of pocket. As you start to research circumcisions, you'll learn that there's a lot of different 'cuts' that you can have, and different methods. I am going with a low and tight cut that is done through a freehand method. I liked the doctor I'm going with because he was very attentive to my cosmetic goals and explained exactly how he will try to achieve a low and tight cut that I'm looking for.

09 Sep 2020 18:05

greygreygrey wrote: I thought I would start off a diary here.

My journey with penis enlargement has been going on for over 6 years now, which started with jelqing, then went to extending, pumping, hanging, clamping, you name it. With a very dedicated routine, I managed to gain 0" in girth, and 0" in length. I had some gains in flaccid stretched length, sure, but I don't walk around stretching out my flaccid dick for everyone to see.

My current stats:
NBPEL: 6"
MEG: 4.73" at the widest
Glans EG: 4.25"

After very disappointing results with manual PE methods, I've thrown in the towel and decided I need to go with fillers. Something I've considered even during my manual PE journey is that a circumcision might be necessary in order to get good results with things like vacuum hanging. I've always pushed aside the idea in the past because I hear about horror stories of how a circumcision ruined people's sensation, that they might lose EL from a tight circumcision, etc. Now I've come to realize after doing research that a circumcision might be necessary for me to get results from fillers and I'm okay with that. I think aesthetically it might look more pleasing and it might even make sex better. I've slightly cut my frenulum in the past and condoms usually don't fill me very well when I'm thrusting and my foreskin is sliding back and forth.

So, I've decided I'm going to get a circumcision in advance of getting my ellanse fillers. A 1" gain in EG would be amazing for me, and I'm sure my girlfriend would love it too, though I wouldn't tell her. We already have a great sex life, and fortunately I took her virginity so I never had the insecurity hanging over my head that she likes sex with bigger dicks. But I know that she would enjoy it given how much her vagina can stretch, and that I've disappointed girls in the past with my size. I think girls usually expect me to be a lot bigger because I'm athletic as well.

Thanks for reading, I will post pictures along my journey as well.


Thank you for your post.
I too am ready to start my journey. I'm 39 and have messed around with manual PE for about 6 years now....various gains on and off but nothing significant to mention.
It seems like fillers are really the "new age" of treatment for this and comparable to what women (and men) have been doing to enhance certain parts of their body for years now.
So I feel like I"m ready to make that jump too.
I just filled out a contact form with Dr. Morganstern - not sure who you are planning on using but given he is a sponsor and several people have gone to have fillers done i have some feedback to go on.
I'll likely have to get circumcised too....if i can find a general urologist to do it and cover it under my insurance it would be much cheaper. Not sure what route your considering?
02 Sep 2020 16:34
I thought I would start off a diary here.

My journey with penis enlargement has been going on for over 6 years now, which started with jelqing, then went to extending, pumping, hanging, clamping, you name it. With a very dedicated routine, I managed to gain 0" in girth, and 0" in length. I had some gains in flaccid stretched length, sure, but I don't walk around stretching out my flaccid dick for everyone to see.

My current stats:
NBPEL: 6"
MEG: 4.73" at the widest
Glans EG: 4.25"

After very disappointing results with manual PE methods, I've thrown in the towel and decided I need to go with fillers. Something I've considered even during my manual PE journey is that a circumcision might be necessary in order to get good results with things like vacuum hanging. I've always pushed aside the idea in the past because I hear about horror stories of how a circumcision ruined people's sensation, that they might lose EL from a tight circumcision, etc. Now I've come to realize after doing research that a circumcision might be necessary for me to get results from fillers and I'm okay with that. I think aesthetically it might look more pleasing and it might even make sex better. I've slightly cut my frenulum in the past and condoms usually don't fill me very well when I'm thrusting and my foreskin is sliding back and forth.

So, I've decided I'm going to get a circumcision in advance of getting my ellanse fillers. A 1" gain in EG would be amazing for me, and I'm sure my girlfriend would love it too, though I wouldn't tell her. We already have a great sex life, and fortunately I took her virginity so I never had the insecurity hanging over my head that she likes sex with bigger dicks. But I know that she would enjoy it given how much her vagina can stretch, and that I've disappointed girls in the past with my size. I think girls usually expect me to be a lot bigger because I'm athletic as well.

Thanks for reading, I will post pictures along my journey as well.
01 Sep 2020 17:22
Growth through jelqing/non-injection PE is the best story imo. It not only explains current growth, but it also allows you to explain any future growth that you might get if you want to pursue getting further injections. Telling a one-off story about an injury will only explain one instance of growth which I think is too limiting.
29 Aug 2020 04:05

Mrmiller89 wrote: What is PE? How can I gain length


PE stands for penis enlargement. As for length, I'd spend some time reading around and try posting in more pertinent topics. Length can be achieved either through "penis or manual" exercises (like pumping, stretching, jelqing, etc), or surgically (by severing the ligament allowing for some inner penis to come forward). Improving erection quality can also maximize your fullest possible natural length, as well as reducing your fat pad if you have one.
Good luck.
20 Aug 2020 13:45
Hello all! 23yr insecure, frightened male here...

3 months ago I think I suffered a penis injury. I overstreched it while I was doing some jelqing exercises. Yes I am ashamed and insecure of myself, now even more... While I pushed the flacid penis down (with not a lot of force) i felt a sharp but not so intense pain at the right base of the penis. Nothing swollen, nothing visualy wrong. But the pain remained and its still present... It hurts when I move the penis down or to the side. Basically any stretching hurts in the same place (ingiunal region - near the base). Other symptoms are also: dificulty lifting legs more than 30 deegres, twisting my body(torso) ,when going to the toilet (bowel), laying on one side when sleeping, lifting things from the ground, deep breathing, or any stretching of abdomen... All I can do right now is walking. I went to some doctors which didnt really agree on the diagnosis. So far I have damaged fascia, penis fracture, damaged suspensory ligament, ingiunal hernia (which ultrasound was negative- also no visual bumps) or damaged ingiunal nerve.

I am capable of erection but it hurts when I am moving it more... So I am substaining from masturbation and any sexual activity. I also have a little left curve on my penis which was present before, but now I think it maybe got a little bit worse. I know I may be imagining that, altough when I try to straighten it really hurts!

Right now I am visiting a physio doing some laser, ultrasound, cross friction massage therapy. And its probably a little better but I am still so worried :/ Just the thought that I it will never be the same or that will hurt for the rest of my life is really depressing...

My questions are- did anyone had or has similar symptoms ? Can anyone tell me a possible diagnosis? Maybe damaged corpus cavernosum? Should I do an MRI or something similar? Like cavernosography? What should I do? :/

Thanks to anyone who will take the time!
17 Jun 2020 14:26
I have now just completed my second round of PMMA with Dr. C and decided that it's probably time to begin sharing my experience, which started on January 22nd, 2020.

The initial question here is why? Why did I feel the drive to increase the size of my cock, which, even before any PE, stood at a respectably average 6" x 4.8"? I knew I was right in the middle of the bell curve. I’d check all the penis size comparison sites or look around at swingers clubs or nude beaches and be like, “yup, 100% completely average.”

However, for some reason this didn’t sit well with me. I always wanted to be bigger. I had a dick that fell in the category of “fine”, “nice”, or “maybe it’s on the upper end of average." I couldn't exactly complain, but I still really wanted to be bigger.

I always imagined that at some point this drive to be bigger would just wear off -- that I'd just forget about it and focus on more important things. But that just never happened. I'd occasionally find myself dropping in on PE forums or doing those pathetic web searches for "how to get a bigger penis.” However, there really wasn’t enough of a push to actually do anything about it -- nothing to make me say now is the time. It was a drive that just kind of lingered in suspension.

Then one night a little over a year ago I was walking in my room naked when my wife shot up in bed, pointed at my cock and suddenly blurted out, “Ah! Look how small it is!” while laughing. I knew she was just fucking around — she didn't mean small as in small but small as in significantly smaller than when it’s erect. I should have just said fuck you and laughed it off. But I didn’t. Instead I gave a lame rebuttal: “It’s four inches long, which is, statistically speaking, a good size for a flaccid penis.” To which she replied without missing a beat, “Whatever you say, Mr. Three Balls.”

She seriously called me Mr. Three Balls. After ten years of marriage she started picking on my dick. I should have just laughed — it was kind of funny — and I probably would have if it wasn’t for other things that she’d recently been saying, such as going out of her way to comment about the fact that I don’t have a big dick and, especially, how she’d compulsively complain about the size of her vagina.

Before having kids my wife was incredibly tight. So tight that you’d notice it right away and be like "Wow, she's tight." It was like nothing else that I’d experienced and it always made me wonder how guys who were bigger than me fit (and by her own admission she’d had a couple monster cocks in there). She kind of identified as a woman with a tight pussy that guys loved. Then she had kids. After the second one she was knocked into the average bracket. However, it wasn’t loose -- you wouldn"t have sex with her and come away unsatisfied.

But she noticed the difference and it bothered her. She used to always orgasm from penetrative sex but this was now something that only rarely happened. After we'd finish she’d sometimes ask me with a super insecure look on her fact if I could feel anything. She'd also regularly complain about her “ginormous” vagina. But each time she said ginormous vagina all I heard was "small penis."

I knew I wasn’t small if compared with a room full of other men, but this becomes moot when your wife wants you bigger.

I then realized that I had to do something. I'd always wanted to be bigger anyway, and now I had an acute reason to invest the time and money into it. So I jumped on the manual PE forums and began jelqing, pumping, and using a stretcher. It was effective: in nine months I’d gained .75” in length and maybe a little girth. It doesn’t seem like much but it allowed me to touch places in her vagina that I couldn’t before — I could feel my cock bottoming out in some positions and anal became way more challenging.

However, it was clear that the gains from manual PE were not going to be significant enough. I began looking for other options.

I knew of Phalloboards from my early PE research. I initially viewed it as a place for reckless dudes doing crazy things to their cocks. That was kind of how the site was posited on the manual PE boards, who, of course, felt that endlessly yanking on their cocks was superior to visiting a medical professional. But when I came back to Phalloboards I gave it a closer look and discovered that many of the guys on there were actually very pleased with their results — which were impressive -- and that many of them deeply researched their procedures and understood what they were doing. The deeper I dove the more the risk / reward ratio began veering to the good. I discovered Dr. C and read everything I could about him and what he did. The success rate of patients going to him seemed incredibly high and I decided to go for it.

I didn't know at this time if getting a bigger cock was really the answer -- would my wife's vagina just keep tenting up no matter how big of a dick I put into it? I began experimenting with larger sized implements to try to find out. I used a sleeve -- which made me at least 8" x 6" -- a few times and it shockingly went in with ease. I gave it 50/50 odds, which seemed worth a go. Also, I was also doing this for more personal reasons as well, so even if it didn't solve the sex issue with my wife I would still be getting something out of it. I guess I should probably thank my wife for her rather biting humor -- she essentially turned my PE ambitions from merely a vain pursuit to something a little more pragmatic.

These are my starting photos. The first one is pre-PE, the others are after I began manual PE.
22 Apr 2020 22:19
Hey everyone. This is my first post. Before I begin I want to thank all the admins and contributors on Phalloboards for taking the time to educate people about PE! I have never read more intelligent and considerate discussion about PE than on these forums.

Original penis size: 5.8" BPEL, 5" BEG, 4.5" MEG. Didn't measure flaccid but it was about 3" flaccid not stretched.
Current penis size: 6.9" BPEL, 5.4" BEG, 5" MEG. 4.75" flaccid not stretched, 7" flaccid stretched. One year of training (not counting 2 months off from injuries)
Final goal of 7.4" BPEL, 5.7" BEG, 5.4" MEG.

Routine:
1. Extender at 1.5 to 2 pounds of pull for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. YES, low extension strength works for me! Quite comfortable, just takes more time to grow.
2. Warm water soak and jelqing for a few minutes, followed by moderate vacuum for 20 minutes a day, 3 days a week.
3. 2 consecutive days off. Take days/weeks off until I recover if I ever injure my penis or my penis still feels sore from last training.
4. Multivitamin, L-Arginine, Sunflower Lecithin (good for fat of cells, ejaculation volume). I also take a few supplements that are normally low/not in multivitamins but are actually ESSENTIAL nutrients (some missing because they impair absorption of other vitamins and should be taken 1 hour+ different time): Magnesium, Calcium, Vitamin D3 (not missing from multivitamins, but if you get little sunlight like me, it can help), and Alpha-GPC (many people do not get the recommended "Adequate Intake" of Choline, declared essential in 1990s by multiple medical establishments but not in multivitamins. Choline is essential for brain function and studies suggest it can help with penis health). These supplements are affordable and are either essential nutrients or components of cells.

Some tips:
1. If it ever gets painful, stop and lower the intensity/duration, and take time off as needed! I made mistakes in the past with both manual exercises and tools, keeping on going when it got painful, and it took weeks to recover. I have even accidentally made my penis bleed with what many consider a very safe vacuum because I pumped hard and used it for too long. Always be mindful of how your penis feels, and don't train if your penis is sore from training.
2. Be very careful with supplements claiming to help with penile health. Research potential side effects and contraindications. I have high blood pressure and took a supplement with Yohimbe, which caused me issues. Make sure supplements say GMP-certified, which means it was made in an actual supplement manufacturing facility where ingredients are tested for content and purity.
3. Don't set an unrealistic penis size goal unless you are sure that is what you want. Very large dildos/penises can hurt women, and I 100% plan to stop after reaching my goal.
4. PE exercise can be done very cost-effectively (or expensively if you prefer). I have tried both cheap and expensive equipment, and can see the value in both the cheaper equipment and more expensive equipment. I won't name any products since I know many of them can work if you're just patient and dedicated. Research products well since you have many options.

And if you ever doubt if PE can work, just read the multiple scientific studies available online that prove it does work.
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