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PmmaFan wrote: @Keith5575

I would not recommending FFT - omg.
I had it before Pmma. The area where some squishy fat remained - never any Pmma could settle. Soon I ll try there to install new Pmma - since my FFT is now many years ago.

As you pointed out that your FFT was many years ago; most negative reports are seemingly from many years ago and a lot of that has changed/improved since:

• Technique & volume injected. Dr. Carney is an expert in dealing with buried penises so is very familiar with adipose tissue. What Doctors failed to do/realize in the past was that they bowed to the pressure of patients wanting monster shafts, and over-filled them with fat. Fat, like any other cell, needs vascularization to survive. The overfilling ensured that much of the fat implantation wouldn't survive, hence breaking down and leaving a lumpy appearance. The key to overcoming this error is to do what I once coined "brick-laying," basically injecting enough layer to adequately integrate with the penis & blood flow, and periodically increasing its size over multiple appointments.
• Any additional treatments (e.g. PRP) are now used in conjunction with many filler procedures, and while PRP alone DOES NOT give you an increase in size, its healing & growth factors may help improve the vascularization and survival of the fat injections.
• The quality of fat harvested: Dr. Carney will actually evaluate you to see if you the right volume of certain kind of fat, and if not, will opt for HA or PMMA instead. This is often overlooked in previous iterations of FFT.
• Regular follow-ups (some Clinics will offer to store your additional fat cryogenically so topping-off aesthetic issues can be performed quickly if & when necessary).

I almost got FFT done circa 2008-2009, and had even heard good things about it then, admittedly with mixed reviews. I can comfortably say well over a decade many lessons have been learned in injectable phalloplasty, and if I were to get FFT done at all, Dr. Carney would be on my short list. With all due to respect to PmmaFan, old anecdotes of FFT are unreliable based on the innovations we've seen today.

Now back to the original topic, in order to remain impartial I can sum up the choice between FFT and PMMA (Bellafill) as:

1. FFT is your own tissue through and through and thus on par with Hyaluronic Acid (HA) in its safety profile. Improvements have been made in its feel, aesthetics, and retention as noted in the above bullet-point list. The trade off is that retention rates vary person to person, but some don't mind that for peace of mind and that (historically) is usually the least expensive filler to top-off.
2. Bellafill implants a bovine (non-human) carrier/scaffold (which will eventually be broken down by the body) with polymethyl-methacrylate (PMMA) microspheres suspended with in the bovine carrier that will eventually induce an inflammatory response so that your body can wall off the microspheres with collagen, which in turn is what gives you girth. The PMMA particles will remain with you for a lifetime but they are seemingly bio-compatible and non-carcinogenic. The advantage here is that once you'e achieved your end results (like FFT, over multiple appointments), you'll be done for good.

In summary: FFT = natural (your own cells) but life-long maintenance whereas PMMA is synthetic (however bio-friendly) and its permanence will not require any additional work in the future. If you are risk averse, I'd lean toward FFT. If you don't like the financial & logistical constraints (even if they are yearly or every few years), then PMMA may be your better bet.

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jrocket12 wrote: I had Bellafill after HA from Shafer. It looked perfect for a while, but then it gets a little lumpy looking as the HA degrades. (Even then, you still cant even tell when flaccid. Only when erect, but its nothing crazy.) I'm going back for another round of Bellafill sometime in 2024. At that point the HA should all be gone, so I'm thinking the next Bellafill should stay smooth.

This raises a good point. Obviously Hyaluronic Acid (HA) and Bellafill have their pros & cons, but should you choose to do a permanent filler over a temporary filler, you're likely going to see an eventual dissipation in size, and it would be hard to predict if that reduction is uniform or uneven.

For HA patients, it's anticipated that top-offs may be required annually but its safety profile (already naturally-occurring in your body, somewhat reversible, compatible with other fillers seemingly) justifies its temporary nature -on the flip side- Bellafill is permanent, and thus no top-offs are required once you've achieved your end goal, but can be more challenging to treat or remove in the event of a complication (albeit rare and typically resolvable). I'm an advocate of both fillers, just understand no elective cosmetic procedure is without risk.

That said, if you happen to have HA done before OR after PMMA, the eventual dissipation of HA over time will mean you'll likely see a few additional top-offs of PMMA than would normally be expected or projected under normal circumstances (like going straight PMMA only and no other fillers). @jrocket12 's comments make sense in this regard.

justn8 wrote:

Sanchez wrote: I received HA on the first two and Radiesse on this last round a week ago with Dr. Joel Pash.

Radiesse to firm things up? What type of HA?

It's plausible - Radiesse is more like an Ellanse/PMMA type filler in that it uses microspheres (of a different kind found in Ellanse or PMMA) to induce elastin and collagen growth much the same way, which in theory may reinforce the Hyaluronic Acid (HA). The particles are bio-compatible and reabsorbed by the body and are not permanent like PMMA.

I'm not sure yet how effective this can be, but it's great to see Clinics like Upsize look to make innovations in order to provide their patients (potentially) better results. Perhaps I can get Dr. Pash to chime in on the matter in the near future.

Avanti_Derma wrote:

think wrote: I’m now at 5 years 2 month and zero loss. I love this stuff. 100 percent natural feeling.

That's the secret and beauty of Ellanse!! we hope more people understood this, ELLANSE is much better overall, better than HA (hyaluronic acid)

Have there been any instances yet of people adding Ellanse after having some prior PMMA?

I'm in no way suggesting I'd want that. More just to have information here for mixed cases, which I'm sure are not only a thing but will become more of a thing as the number of practitioners around the world increases and people's options evolve.

Dr_Sullivan wrote: To dissolve 1ml of hyaluronic acid, 100-150 units of hyaluronidase are required, with the higher end of this range typically needed for more robust formulations like Voluma. Consequently, dissolving 48 syringes of Voluma would require about 150 units per syringe, amounting to a significant cost. Specifically, the expense would be calculated as 48 syringes multiplied by 150 units per syringe, at a rate of approximately $2 per unit, totaling around $14,400. This estimation remains substantial even when considering that half of the Voluma may have degraded over time. Therefore, it's debatable whether a completely 'blank canvas' was achieved prior to subsequent treatments. If less hyaluronidase was used, it implies that a considerable amount of Voluma remained when Bellafill, another filler, was introduced. I don't know the specifics but something to ponder

Interesting! Never knew the actual costs involved. I know my practitioner told me has had to dissolve one patient who decided they wanted it gone, they went too large and their new partner couldn't work with it. All he said was it was a "very expensive waste".

I'm going to see how long my results last with the additional HA. At some point I might seriously ask him to investigate slowly adding Bellafill. If I find living with this size is what I want long term. Or if the Revanesse tends to last a long time I may just stick with it and do little touch ups...

The extra firmness of a stimulatory filler might be nice but this stuff seems pretty rigid. I appreciate your input Dr Sullivan! Thanks!

To dissolve 1ml of hyaluronic acid, 100-150 units of hyaluronidase are required, with the higher end of this range typically needed for more robust formulations like Voluma. Consequently, dissolving 48 syringes of Voluma would require about 150 units per syringe, amounting to a significant cost. Specifically, the expense would be calculated as 48 syringes multiplied by 150 units per syringe, at a rate of approximately $2 per unit, totaling around $14,400. This estimation remains substantial even when considering that half of the Voluma may have degraded over time. Therefore, it's debatable whether a completely 'blank canvas' was achieved prior to subsequent treatments. If less hyaluronidase was used, it implies that a considerable amount of Voluma remained when Bellafill, another filler, was introduced. I don't know the specifics but something to ponder

Hi everyone,

I've dipped in and out of PhalloBoards for a few months now, but this is my first post.

I've done quite a lot of research on hyaluronic acid (HA) filler, but I was hoping to speak to a few people who have experience of the procedure.

I come in at about 5.75" (EL) and 4.5" (EG), so figure I am a good candidate for HA filler.

The main thing I want to enhance is girth. If I could get to 5.5" (EG), I'd be very happy given that would make me thicker than 92% of the dicks out there!

I haven't taken the plunge yet as the risks and costs are holding me back, but I'd really like to experience the benefits that could come after.

Does anyone have any thoughts? It would be good to hear from anyone who has had HA filler (especially from Androfill / Dr Gary Horn).

Thanks,

Jokafi

hunter901 wrote: So I have HA filler about 18 months ago and most of the filler has now gone and close to my original girth but im left with 3 nodules 2 small ones on shaft and and biggish at the base about 1cm x 1cm ... will these shrink over time or will i eventually have to try and get these dissolved?

Any advice is welcomed as not sure whats best to do here....

Full details of my progress here
phalloboards.info/forum/progress-reports...after-16-months.html

They will likely go away/soften with time, especially the small ones. If the largest one doesn't dissipate after the 24th month, I'd go in to have the nodule removed via Hyaluronidase (an enzyme that breaks down HA) or a punch excision (a simple, quick process), whichever one your Performing Physician to prefer based on their assessment of the nodule. Believe it or not, Hyaluronic Acid (HA) can stimulate some elastin and collagen (but relatively small amounts when compared to actual collagen fillers), so there is an outside chance the largest nodule could have traces of that, but I can't know for sure. This is why I believe waiting till the 24 month mark will help.

Not that I normally recommend tanning booths, but according to the Advanced Laser and Skin Cancer Center , Ultra-Violet Rays can degrade HA (and possibly even some collagen). There was even a report of a patient who lost all his HA in an unusually short amount of time, and it turns out he was a regular visitor at tanning booth salons. I'd only recommend this if your nodules are causing pain, obstructive to sex, or plainly noticeable and you can't be bothered to wait an extra 6 months -- as well as consulting your Performing Physician and getting his or her approval on this particular approach.

Unfortunately nodules are a potential (yet minor) aesthetic irregularity that aren't uncommon, fortunately however, they don't pose any health risks and are correctable/removable.

Wantingbigger wrote: That's very risky being uncut. The only good jobs, I've seen with Ellanse, uncut are with Dr. Oats. For some reason the UK Dr's aren't on his level with Ellanse. All the uncut Ellanse cases on here look bad in my opinion.

To be fair, Dr. Oates sample size on this forum was quite minimal, no way to use that as a valid comparison against U.K. options. I'm still convinced technique plays 25% of the role (at best), and the inherent obstacle known as "being uncircumcised" as being the primary culprit.

The 3 Clinics that I know of that has injected Ellanse (other than Dr. Oates who is in Australia) all unanimously agree that being circumcised is preferential if & when possible. Of these 3 Clinics, one requires you to get Hyaluronic Acid (HA) injected in small volumes first since it's somewhat reversible to see how your foreskin behaves, the 2nd has you sign a waiver, and 3rd one refuses to inject uncircumcised men period. All 3 of those Clinics are popular Sponsors on this forum.

Whenever I get emails (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.) from guys who rather not share photos on the forum, photos which appear less-than-satisfactory work, I'm almost always not shocked that they come from uncircumcised men.

That should be telling. That isn't to say men can't get good results being uncircumcised, but it is very clear that remaining uncircumcised INCREASES the likelihood of aesthetic irregularities, and are often times more challenging to correct than traditional aesthetic irregularities (like nodules).

It's just one of those trade-offs/sacrifices: do you get adult circumcision in order to achieve the best result possible, or do you remain uncircumcised (for whatever personal you may have, no one is judging) and take a shot you'll be fine (and even if it doesn't turn out perfect, that in theory can be fixable over multiple sessions)?

Mantas wrote: Hello PhalloBoard Community,

I'm planning to undergo a filler procedure and am looking for some advice specific to my situation. I am uncircumcised, and while I've been keeping my foreskin retracted for over 5 years, I am curious if there are any additional preparation steps I should consider before undergoing the filler procedure.

I understand that circumcision is often recommended in certain cases, but I'm keen to explore if there are other viable options or preparatory measures that could be beneficial for someone in my position. My goal is to ensure the best possible outcome from the filler treatment.

Could members of the community, especially those who have had similar experiences or relevant professional knowledge, shed some light on this? Are there specific considerations or care routines for uncircumcised individuals undergoing filler procedures? Any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Looking forward to learning from your experiences and advice!

Best regards

I'll see if I can get a Medical Opinion from one of our Sponsors, although since we are very close to Thanksgiving (an American Holiday), I can't promise an immediate response.

As you may or may not know, I'm a proponent of adult circumcision for those who wish to get girth enhancement via dermal fillers (e.g. Hyaluronic Acid, Ellanse, PMMA, and so on). However, I also know some men are adamantly opposed to it for varying reasons and I respect their decision regardless.

It would be most helpful if you could share with us your filler of choice, it might make it easier for others who have had similar experiences share with you what they know.

The following questions are in bold followed with answers authored by Dr. Sullivan:


How much girth/circumference can you achieve with girth
enhancement injections?

Basics:
The average flaccid girth: 3.5 to 4 inches and erect 5 inches. Most men are
looking to gain 1-1.5 inches.

Results:
A single session typically involves the injection of 5 to 15 syringes. Best results
for most patients come after 15 to 30 syringes over 1 to 4 sessions. After each
session, you can expect an increase in girth ranging from 1/4 to 1/2 inch. After
several sessions, total enhancement ranges from 3/4 to 1.5 inches. Some patients
may wish for more than 1.5 inches but be aware that as the girth increases the
naturalness of the look decreases.


How Many Sessions can a patient expect to achieve ideal results?

Most patients have great results after just one session, but 2 to 3 sessions may
be required depending on your goals. Some patients, thrilled with their initial
enhancement, opt for additional treatments. Spreading treatment over multiple
sessions allows for more fine tuning of the symmetry. It is important to avoid
over-filling during a single session. Stacking enhancements across multiple
sessions seems to produce the best results. Fifteen to thirty cc or syringes is
usually the optimal number for significant girth enhancement for the average-
sized penis. Remember your starting point matters. A man starting with a girth of
3 inches and achieving an increase of 1.5 inches has a 50% enhancement, if you
start with 5 inches and gain 1.5 inches there is a 30% improvement.


How long can filler injections take and what kind of anesthesia is used?

Typically, the procedure is completed within 30 minutes. The initial visit may be
an hour. This extra time is essential for completing patient intake paperwork and
conducting a comprehensive consultation.

I use a combination of topical numbing and a dorsal penis block. The dorsal penis
block involves administering a local anesthetic to the base of the penis, rendering
the entire penis numb. Patients experience almost no discomfort during the
procedure.


Can girth injections affect the function or sensitivity of the penis? What
complications are there to consider?

This is an important question. Most patients report either unchanged or
enhanced sensitivity with girth enhancement. Where does the enhanced
sensitivity come from? I believe some of it is from being more confident. So much
of sexual pleasure is mental, and feeling good about yourself is key to good sex.
Importantly with increased girth there is increased friction thus improved
sensation for you and your partner.

Potential Risks and Side Effects:
Bruising/Swelling - It is common to experience bruising and swelling post-
procedure. This may last for 1-2 weeks.

Discomfort - When the anesthesia wears off, there may be mild discomfort. This is
treated with over-the-counter anti-inflammatory medication.

Infection - Infections are rare, but as we are breaking the skin barrier and
introducing a foreign substance it is a potential risk.

Lumps/Unevenness – There may be lumps or unevenness especially in the first
few weeks. This usually resolves on its own. If it does not HA fillers can be
corrected using a small amount of hyaluronidase. Occasionally unevenness may
require an additional syringe or two. Some men have natural folds in their penis
due to how it is positioned in their underwear. This can cause the filler to kink or
crease. To mitigate this, we use dressings in the first week, but despite our best-
efforts creases can still form, necessitating a touch-up.

Delayed-onset Nodules - Delayed-onset nodules have been associated with both
PMMA and HA fillers. With HA fillers, these nodules can be dissolved entirely, but
PMMA nodules may prove more difficult.

Vascular Necrosis – This is where the filler is inadvertently injected into a blood
vessel. Although most affected individuals make a full recovery without lasting
scars it is an important possible serios complication. Girth enlargement is a
medical procedure and all procedures have possible serious complications.


How does a newly girth enhanced penis feel?

Great! It’s like driving a new car. The enhanced girth offers a sensation that is
amplified for many men. There's a subtle difference in how the penis feels
compared to before, but it remains discreet, detectable mostly only to yourself.
The injected area might be marginally softer, usually if larger volumes are used.
Usually, partners don’t notice a change in firmness; they do notice the change in
girth.

Consider many intimate toys have trended towards a softer exterior, for
enhanced comfort, a little bit of softness may be more comfortable for partners.
Also consider, the penis doesn't just gain in volume but also in weight, giving a
more noticeable hang when naked and in clothes. Most men really enjoy this
heavier feel and get a great boost in self-confidence.


How long can you wait before resuming intimacy or strenuous activity?

To prevent infections, it's advised that patients wait between 5 to 7 days after the
procedure before engaging in sexual activities. This period allows for adequate
healing and reduces potential complications. After 7 to 10 days sex and
masturbation are okay and might even assist in reducing any post-procedure
lumps. Physical activities such as the gym can be resumed after 3 days, but
caution should be taken to avoid any pressure to the penis.


Can you gain length from girth injections?

Unfortunately, no. However, there is the feeling that it is longer because the
increased weight of the penis makes it “hang” more. Girth injections increase the
thickness of the penis, not its length.


Question of Filler Migration?

After the filler is injected, a compression sleeve is provided to ensure the penis
remains extended. However, since the penis is not a static organ and can change
shape during various activities, some filler movement is normal. For the first 2-4
weeks post-procedure, any uneven distribution of the filler can be adjusted
through gentle massages. After a few weeks and after couple months, the filler
integrates substantially with the tissue, making migration very rare. One
advantage of using Hyaluronic Acid filler over other treatments like PMMA or fat
transfers is its adjustability. If any irregularities occur, Hyaluronidase can be
injected to dissolve the undesired filler areas, and additional filler can be added if
needed.

Although PMMA fillers, like Bellafill have the potential to move, following
aftercare guidelines can significantly reduce this risk. Abstaining from sexual
activities for a minimum of one week, using the provided dressing and avoiding
kinking greatly reduce this risk. As PMMA becomes part of the tissue and collagen
production, migration becomes highly unlikely.


Granulomas:

Granulomas are inflammatory reactions by the body to foreign materials. They
can occur when certain substances, like silicone, are injected into the skin. While
PMMA injections can cause granulomas, they are rare. If they do occur, they can
be treated, though they might not fully disappear. The chances of getting
granulomas are extremely low with HA dermal fillers. If granulomas do form from
HA, they can be easily managed hyaluronidase, which dissolves the filler if
required.


What to expect on the Procedure Day?

Before the Procedure:
- I will examine you and we will discuss your goals. Once we decide on the both
the filler to be used and the amount I will perform a dorsal penile block to make
sure you are numb for the procedure.

During the Procedure:
- I will carry out a series of dermal filler injections. The total volume injected will
range from 5 to 15 syringes on average (although some men may do more), based
on your individual anatomy.

After the Procedure:
- A dressing will be applied to the injection area, which you'll need to wear
continuously for the first 5-7 days. During this time, avoid sexual activities. We
will guide you on dressing care and provide the necessary supplies for a smooth
recovery at home.

Follow-Up:
- A follow-up appointment will be scheduled for you three to four weeks after the
procedure.
 

Blunt-Tip Cannula vs Needle?

Both the Blunt-Tip Cannula and Needle methods have their own advantages.
However, I prefer using the needle technique. The reason for this preference is
that I believe the needle provides more control and allows for precise fine-tuning
during the procedure. Additionally, by employing a nerve block during the
process, the procedure becomes extremely comfortable for the patient, reducing
any potential discomfort.


What makes a good candidate?

The best candidates are circumcised individuals without pre-existing scar tissue,
primarily interested in girth enhancement, and have realistic expectations about
the results.

While both circumcised and uncircumcised men can undergo the procedure,
those who are uncircumcised might need follow-up touch-ups.
 

Use of Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) to Aid Gains?

While I perform this procedure for aesthetic purposes this will not increase girth.
If your goal is girth, you are better off investing in a filler procedure. If the
question is where to spend your money PRP or filler, filler wins every time.


 Best Circumcision for Girth Enhancement (Filler)

You do not need to be circumcised. We treat both circumcised and uncircumcised
patients. Male Enhancement injections can be performed regardless of
circumcision status. Patients need to understand that if uncircumcised they may
require a touch up and if they are looking for larger girth enhancement, they
would benefit from a go-slow multiple treatment approach.


Preference of filler and/or brand?

Juvéderm Voluma XC and Juvéderm Volux XC are the longest lasting HA fillers in
the U.S. They also have a firm feel. HA’s are safe and have been around for
decades. The results are very consistent and predictable. I also use Defyne, Lyft
and RHA-4 however Juvéderm Voluma XC and Juvéderm Volux XC are my
preferred fillers.

If a patient is looking for a more long-term option especially if they have already
had HA filers. I choose to use the bio-stimulatory dermal filler Bellafill. Bellafill
provides immediate, long-lasting results and can last 5 years or more.


Can Filler cause ED?

No, not routinely. However as with any medical procedure extremely rare
complications can occur. The likelihood of the girth enhancement causing ED is
extremely rare. This is because we do not enter the corpora cavernosum which
holds the blood for the erection, nor do we inject anywhere near the nerve
bundles that affect the erection.


Can girth enhancement injections be performed on a penis that uses an
inflatable implant?

In most cases yes. Rarely, it would not be possible. For example, if an implant was
inserted and there were complications such as infection or scar tissue then girth
enhancement with filler might not be optimal.

Why are silicone injections regarded as the least safe option as a girth
filler?

Even when medical-grade silicone is used and even with the correct technique
(the microdroplet technique) its use is complication prone. The mechanism by
which liquid silicone works involves the formation of foreign body granulomas,
which can lead to firm nodules. These nodules may not only be challenging to
remove but can also erode the skin, resulting in ulcerations. This complication can
occur immediately or years later. It is unpredictable. I have seen this complication
many, many times and for this reason I do not use silicone. It is also very
important to consider that many providers using “silicone” are not even using
medical grade silicone. There are so many safer options that are very long lasting
so why take a chance?


Are there any solutions for glans enlargement?

Hyaluronic Acid (HA) fillers like Vollure can safely be used to increase the size of
the glans (head) of the penis. I take a go-slow approach here only injecting a
limited volume at one session. I keep the number of syringes injected here to a
minimum (I only inject a maximum of 2 mL of HA) and ask the patient to come
back to add more product later. Although I know it is said that the results are not
long-lasting due to the vascularity of the glands, I do not necessarily believe this is
true. Consider the lips another very vascular area, filler typically lasts 1.5 years
here if the correct filler is used. Filler may not last as long in the glands as the
shaft, but it is certainly long lasting.


Can you describe your experience with cosmetic medicine and the
importance of injection technique? How does this benefit girth
enhancement?

Injection technique is extremely important. I have been using dermal fillers since
they first became available in the U.S. two decades ago. I have used all filler types
including hyaluronic acid (HA), PMMA (Bellafill), calcium hydroxylapatite
(Radiesse), poly-lactic acid (Sculptra) and silicone. I have injected almost every
anatomical location including the face, lips, hands, neck, chest and of course the
penis. I have used both needles and cannulas. This experience allows me to safely
inject for girth enhancement.


Do girth dermal filler injections adversely impact blood pressure or
increase risks of hypertension?

No.


If I had other treatments for penile enlargement (fat injections,
Penuma, Surgimend, etc.) and am not happy with it, can I have still get
filler injections?

Yes. Filler injection after a person has had surgical insertion of devices such as
Penuma is safe and do-able. It can even be used to correct problems with the
device. If the device is visible or palpable, its appearance can be improved with
filler injections. Unevenness after fat injections can also be improved by injecting
filler.



getmoregirth.com

Hyaluronic acid (HA) fillers have been available and extensively used in the United States for cosmetic procedures since the FDA approval in 2003. They are deemed safe for use, with a well-documented profile supporting their efficacy and safety in various treatments.

Regarding the article you referenced on pancreatic cancer and HA: it is important to distinguish correlation from causation. The article observes that abnormal amounts of HA are present in pancreatic cancers; however, this is not indicative of HA causing cancer. Hyaluronic acid is a naturally occurring substance in most human tissues, playing vital roles in hydration and tissue repair.

The presence of HA in cancerous tissue is likely reflective of its role in the body's complex biological processes and not as a causative factor for cancer. The use of HA in cosmetic fillers is precisely controlled and targeted, differing significantly from its pathological presence in disease.

Rest assured, the continued approval and use of HA fillers by healthcare professionals are predicated on a substantial body of research affirming their safety profile.
Dr. Sullivan
www.GetMoreGirth.com

girthseeker98 wrote: I was about 90% sure I was going to schedule HA for girth enhancement when I came across this article about HA injections and their relationship between prostate & pancreatic cancer.

www.michiganmedicine.org/health-lab/panc...feed-hyaluronic-acid

I read an article today about some celebrities having their filler removed due to long term risks and was just like whoa doggie...maybe I should ask you guys and see if anyone has researched it and can comment about it. I mean, everything causes cancer these days lol but If we're injecting this into our manhoods maybe we should be making sure it IS safe first and make sure there is no long term effects.

OR, am I just paranoid? LOL

Yes, just paranoia, and I say that respectfully.

A few things to consider:

(1) We don't know all the fillers used on these "celebritiies", much less if they really knew what was injected themselves (people are often injected with high volumes of silicone oil without knowing, a method banned on the PhalloBoards).

(2) That article is as peak sensational-click bait as I've ever seen. Yes, Hyaluronic Acid attracts water, and so do a million other things in your body. People have a chance for this type of cancer absent of HA injections, and in fact, Hyaluronic Acid is naturally created within your body. The author of this article should be tried for malpractice of journalism.

(3) I'm actually shocked after I re-read the article for its levels of braindead incompetency. At no point is it ever asserted or alleged that HA is a carcinogen, only that if you HAPPEN to be UNLUCKY to have pancreatic cancer, the presence of HA may make the tumor(s) more robust. Jesus, if I've ever seen a more egregious attempt of clicks in my life.

(4) I have had had PMMA in me for over a decade, a filler far more inflammatory than HA, and my physical blood panels come back excellent every year. Were I to have cancer, I was equally likely statistically as anyone else, NOT because of a non-carcinogenic filler in my shaft skin.

HA is easily the most benign, safest filler of them all, naturally produced by the body but cross-linked in labs to act better as fillers... hell, to some extent they are dissolvable. Get your dick bigger, and fuck a lot in the process. My name is Skeptical One, but there is no skepticism here, just complete conviction... conviction in the fact that this article is complete rubbish.

I was about 90% sure I was going to schedule HA for girth enhancement when I came across this article about HA injections and their relationship between prostate & pancreatic cancer.

www.michiganmedicine.org/health-lab/panc...feed-hyaluronic-acid

I read an article today about some celebrities having their filler removed due to long term risks and was just like whoa doggie...maybe I should ask you guys and see if anyone has researched it and can comment about it. I mean, everything causes cancer these days lol but If we're injecting this into our manhoods maybe we should be making sure it IS safe first and make sure there is no long term effects.

OR, am I just paranoid? LOL

After getting fillers such as hyaluronic acid, some degree of swelling and bruising can be normal as your body reacts to the injection and the substance itself. Some fillers swell more than others. However, there are indeed certain signs and symptoms that warrant attention and could indicate complications such as infection, allergic reaction, or vascular occlusion. Here’s what to look out for:

1. Increasing Pain: Some discomfort is normal after filler injections, but if you experience pain that is escalating or does not subside with Tylenol (acetaminophen), it may be a sign of a complication.

2. Severe Pain: Severe pain that occurs suddenly could be a sign of a more serious issue such as an infection or necrosis (tissue death), especially if the pain is disproportionate to the expected post-procedure discomfort.

3. Increased Redness: Some redness right after the procedure is expected, but if the redness starts to spread or intensify after the first 1-2 days, it could indicate an inflammatory reaction or infection.

4. Discharge: Any pus-like or unusual discharge from the injection sites is abnormal and could signal an infection.

5. Fever or Chills: If you experience systemic symptoms like fever or chills, it may indicate that an infection is present and your body is trying to fight it off.

6. Skin Changes: Skin that becomes blanched (white) or changes color (blue or greyish hue) may be a sign of vascular occlusion, where the filler has been injected into or is compressing a blood vessel.

7. Delayed Swelling: Swelling that occurs weeks or months after treatment may be a delayed hypersensitivity reaction, or it could be related to other factors like a superficial infection.
When in doubt, it's always better to consult with the practitioner who performed the procedure to determine if what you're experiencing is expected or if it requires further examination or intervention.