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This is awesome stuff, thank you, Skeptical_One!! Putting it in terms of the monthly cost definitely makes it more palatable, even more so when it's put as $13.33/day. It's definitely something I'll have to consider. Thanks for all the info/links on this!

thick_skull_skinny_dick wrote: I definitely agree that it's amazing to be able to even have this option (and to have it look pretty damn good/realistic from a lot of the pictures I've seen), but it does seem a bit exorbitant for how long it lasts, like justin8 mentioned. But to your point, Skeptical_One, this is our one and only dick, so this is definitely not something to get cheap about.

Just to give some context to the argument, I make about $150k USD with no debt or kids, so I live a pretty comfortable life, but this still seems too expensive for me considering that 1) $5k seems to be on the low end, it actually looked closer to $7-10k to have any noticeable results and 2) I'd have to spend that every 1-2 years for the next ~30-40 years. So let's say it costs $7.5k to get the results you want and then assume the best case that it last the full 2 years, that's ~$112k over 30 years!! That makes the permanent/one-time penis enlargement surgery look like an absolute bargain! But that's obviously a lot scarier/riskier.

Does it ever get to a point where you don't need as much filler per session/it gets cheaper?

I really don’t get the point of the post. This is elective cosmetics, this is what the fillers cost. I’m fortunate in that the cost is not a big deal at all. I’m considering HA vs Ellanse. The repeated procedures is what makes me lean away from HA and Ellanse seems very long lasting and a good safety profile.

thick_skull_skinny_dick wrote: Or is that why I've seen so many references to people getting it done in Tijuana? Thanks!

I missed this question the last time, the Tijuana comments are largely related to the Avanti Derma Clinic which primarily specializes in PMMA (permanent filler).

Hyaluronic Acid (HA) however can be found in a number of vetted Clinics around the U.S., some which specialize specifically in HA Girth Enhancement, including -->
- PhalloFILL

- Shafer Clinic

- Upsize Clinic

- Dr. Tsay Ageless-MD

thick_skull_skinny_dick wrote: I definitely agree that it's amazing to be able to even have this option (and to have it look pretty damn good/realistic from a lot of the pictures I've seen), but it does seem a bit exorbitant for how long it lasts, like justin8 mentioned. But to your point, Skeptical_One, this is our one and only dick, so this is definitely not something to get cheap about.

Just to give some context to the argument, I make about $150k USD with no debt or kids, so I live a pretty comfortable life, but this still seems too expensive for me considering that 1) $5k seems to be on the low end, it actually looked closer to $7-10k to have any noticeable results and 2) I'd have to spend that every 1-2 years for the next ~30-40 years. So let's say it costs $7.5k to get the results you want and then assume the best case that it last the full 2 years, that's ~$112k over 30 years!! That makes the permanent/one-time penis enlargement surgery look like an absolute bargain! But that's obviously a lot scarier/riskier.

Does it ever get to a point where you don't need as much filler per session/it gets cheaper?

Agreed, definitely don't be cheap about your penis or its health!

I'm glad you brought up a number comparison. I'll be honest, $100k over 30 years is a pretty modest proposition when a $100,000 for a luxury sports car will be paid over 5 years and not last nearly half as long... both effectively producing comparable effects.

Rather than multiplicative number comparisons, let me offer a perspective using division. Suppose we go with a mid-range lifespan of HA and a mid-range price of 18 months for $7,500. That amounts to ~$400 a month to stay BIG. That's what I pay for groceries for myself every month, and you're telling me I can flex a Magnum XL at the same rate??

I'm not downplaying its costs, but I will remain firm that a specialty elective cosmetic procedure that's easily life-changing for many is at very reasonable market value today, and will continue to get better in the coming decade.

As for the permanent-vs-temporary considerations, you make precisely the point why temporary has gained so much popularity. While many are comfortable with the risks of permanence, the reality is that complications (albeit quite rare) are tougher to manage if & when they do arise. Temporary fillers, especially with HA, are quite manageable. Not only is it reversible to some extent, but its lack of permanency means you'll eventually see it all or mostly gone one day if you were truly unhappy with your results (and not worry about the "tattoo effect"). Also, let's not forget that Hyaluronic Acid is only one of two fillers (the other being fat transfer) that is derived from naturally-occurring sources.

Also, to your question regarding whether it gets cheaper over time, it can and it does. You see, typically your first round will involve the foundational layer of filler which you'll build on or top-off at the rate at which your body breaks down filler.
Here's an example timeline to consider:

1. Let's say you gain 1 inch of circumference after your first appointment of HA.
2. Suppose you happen to be less lucky than others and your body dissipates filler quicker-than-average, leaving you with a net 0.5 inches after 12 months.
3. When you go for your Top-Off appointment, you'll only need enough volume to regain 0.5 inches, not a whole 1 inch. Less volume = less filler = typically less cost.
4. Furthermore, there will be some trace collagen as a result of having filler injected in repeatedly which will integrate and allow you to retain a foundational girth you can build upon in the future.

I definitely agree that it's amazing to be able to even have this option (and to have it look pretty damn good/realistic from a lot of the pictures I've seen), but it does seem a bit exorbitant for how long it lasts, like justin8 mentioned. But to your point, Skeptical_One, this is our one and only dick, so this is definitely not something to get cheap about.

Just to give some context to the argument, I make about $150k USD with no debt or kids, so I live a pretty comfortable life, but this still seems too expensive for me considering that 1) $5k seems to be on the low end, it actually looked closer to $7-10k to have any noticeable results and 2) I'd have to spend that every 1-2 years for the next ~30-40 years. So let's say it costs $7.5k to get the results you want and then assume the best case that it last the full 2 years, that's ~$112k over 30 years!! That makes the permanent/one-time penis enlargement surgery look like an absolute bargain! But that's obviously a lot scarier/riskier.

Does it ever get to a point where you don't need as much filler per session/it gets cheaper?

To be honest I was hearing about Revanesse well before the price situation - both for its effectiveness in penile application, and its safety profile.

The majority of the Sponsors here who specialize/prefer Hyaluronic Acid (HA) have been using this as their go-to. A lot of the recent user-submitted reviews for PhalloFILL show that it's been effective. No surprise (Morganstern) Rejuvall have opted for it, and they are not known to cut corners.

I mean we're literally discussing the luxury of an elective sexual enhancement that only 10 years ago wasn't a common procedure type (for the penis). Men spend six-figures acquiring properties/cars to achieve similar effects, a boost in confidence and masculine prowess, and yet for a few thousand you can be the thickest "she's ever had."

When I first started looking for procedures, if you told me I could non-surgically jump condom sizes for the price of dental braces every 1-2 years, I would have fainted out of excitement & disbelief. And on top of that, if you told me that it happened to be a relatively safe filler (HA), versus methods of old that were notorious for high complication rates, I would have been ecstatic. The stories & photos of old phalloplasty weren't just depressing, they were outright gore-content.

Getting a bigger dick is literally priceless for some. It was to me, and life changing at that.

I say this respectfully, but cosmetic medicine in general is disposable income for some, and a "much needed" intervention for others, but not really for the in-between. And if you are in that in-between demographic, consider this a splurge or investment into your single life. If something this specialized is regarded as cost-prohibitive, then it may be just that, too expensive for some. That's like going to a Porsche forum and wondering how or why they are priced the way they are, it's just not for everybody.

Furthermore, because so few Practitioners offer it, and even less who are really good at it, you are entering a market of specialization. Comparing it to breast augmentation is apples & oranges.

This all said, part of bringing on Sponsors is to encourage innovation and healthy competition, which in turn bring down costs. I'm all about seeing costs come down in general, but we ought to have some perspective. Don't cut corners when it comes to your one and only dick.

Did you know penis enlargement surgery could cost as high as $15k-$30k prior to the advent of the PhalloBoards, and this was before inflation? Sure, some costs have gone up too, but in the grand scheme of things I genuinely believe the market's value is very reasonable at present time (give all the points I made above)... to acquire something most guys dream of.

These are in Canadian Dollars but it seems practitioners up here want in the range of $500-$700 per syringe.

Which... Look I get it. But that is steep. Absurdly steep in my mind for something temporary and frankly minimal. We're talking entering breast augmentation range to gain a little bit of girth from an in and out fill session or two.

thick_skull_skinny_dick wrote: Hi all, brand new to this world and was surprised at how expensive HA filler is in the US! Seems like it's a minimum of $5k for a session, but likely more. Is there something I'm missing? Assuming this lasts for 2 years (best case scenario from what I've read), are people really spending $5k every 2 years for this? Or is that why I've seen so many references to people getting it done in Tijuana? Thanks!

I don't know about Tijuana, but in Asia I have seen it as low as 100 USD for 50 units at reputable clinics. The doctor showed me the box of Allergan vials, serial number, expiry dates, and so on.

It is VERY important to add however that these are NOT the same doctors doing penis enlargement.

I have been going to one place doing penis enlargement with HA for other reasons, but I did not ask what it cost, however I believe the cost is not much higher than what those aesthetic doctors charge for masseter Botox.

As a general rule, I noticed that specialists charge about 3-4 times as much here for their services compared to a regular doctor, no matter if it is a physician or a dentist.

Hi all, brand new to this world and was surprised at how expensive HA filler is in the US! Seems like it's a minimum of $5k for a session, but likely more. Is there something I'm missing? Assuming this lasts for 2 years (best case scenario from what I've read), are people really spending $5k every 2 years for this? Or is that why I've seen so many references to people getting it done in Tijuana? Thanks!

Bigmster wrote: I've had the lump on the left side dissolved, now it looks and feels perfect on that side. On the right side, there is still a lump in the foreskin. It isn't visible when erect, but can be felt in the flaccid state. However, I am more concerned with a lump in on the backside of the base. It is hard and thus doesn't feel very pleasant when erect.

I am considering going for Ellansé anyways in the course of the year, which makes it necessary to dissolve all the HA. That being said, I am afraid that the lump could get encapsuled and become difficult to get rid of. So I might book another appointment to address that problem.

Has anyone encountered a similar problem and can give me some advice how to behave in that situation?

This is precisely the strength of Hyaluronic Acid (HA). These minor irregularities are very manageable. With Ellanse or PMMA, these same issues would be long-term or permanent if it weren't remedied.

Food for thought.

I've always been of the camp that Length before Girth makes most sense. Length is much more of a process and girth is instantaneous. In other words, you can get girth whenever your want, so focus on the main challenge first.

I suppose getting them simultaneously isn't a bad idea, but I'm still of the mindset to get ligamentolysis first, perform the (potentially months long) stretching protocol, cement your gains, then look at Hyaluronic Acid (HA) injections.

Thanks for sharing with us your journey! Feel free to share the name of the Clinic you chose, whether now or later.

Also, do you know what brand of Hyaluronic Acid (HA) they used? There are different brands/formulations (i.e. cross-linking) of HA, and I would like to compile who is using what.

Monroe2345 wrote: feel like I need a support group for this stuff and real life accounts. Super hard to know what to do, if anything!!

You've come to that exact place... it's basically what this site was made for and is today.

Girth is much more attainable than length if it's cosmetic procedures you're looking at.

A simple breakdown involves choosing between surgical or non-surgical.

Surgical options like the Penuma I wouldn't recommend, but dermal graft matrices like Surgimend can be great for those who are looking for permanent, modest gains. If you look at the North American Directory you'll find that Dr. Liu and Dr. Solomon offer these. They are both Board Certified Plastic Surgeons.

Fat Transfer is also an option.

Non-surgical options are essentially dermal filler injections. I wouldn't recommend silicone oil, but there is an abundance of temporary and long-term options to choose from. There are pros & cons to each. Fillers include Hyaluronic Acid (HA), Radiesse, Renuva, Ellanse, and PMMA. If you can, only an hour flight to the Pollock Clinics that offer HA, Adult Circumcisions, Vasectomies, and a whole host of male procedures & services.

Feel free to provide your stats, your goals, and your risk thresholds and I can maybe better point you in the right direction.

Persis wrote: I have found a topical French product, presented only a few months ago, based on hyaluronidase, lipase, protease and some natural oils. The fact is that it promises a moderate dissolution of hyaluronic acid, depending on the imperfection from 1 to 3 applications, one week apart between treatments. They make it clear that when it is deeper and denser the effect is more moderate.
It has a very specific form of application. It is not for dilution of large quantities like the one injected, but if it softens imperfections I am already happy.
I will tell you how it goes, and I will be as impartial as possible, whether it goes well or not.
I am not giving the name of the product at the moment, in case I was violating any forum rule.
Greetings.

Your post is fine and I appreciate you withholding the name of the product, however, this overall topic has me uncomfortable as it has progressed. Not you or any other commenters fault, just my own comfort level as a Moderator, I've decided to lock this topic.

These products/solutions were likely designed for conventional use of Hyaluronic Acid (HA) injections, commonly found in the face at very small quantities in superficial layers. How it would work in spot-correcting penile enhancement seems questionable at best, and should be a task delegated to a medical professional in my opinion.