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aleksk wrote: Tell us more, Dr Oates. Did 4 ml result in any appreciable increase in girth? It sounds like a small amount. Do you think there is a risk that it might result in lumps later as it settles or no risk for that happening? Was the patient satisfied with the aesthetics of it? Which version did you use- the 1, 2, 3 or 4-year one?

Do you think it comes out smoothly from the canula and you have a good control over how you spread it?

Also, could you tell us at what price you\'re offering Ellanse? If it\'s the same as HA in terms of results, i would prefer it 100 times over HA because some of its versions are long lasting and do not gradually dissolve. You could theoretically get away with injecting 3 times in 10 years and have decent girth and good aesthetics all along. That\'s the appeal of it. Provided it doesn\'t lump.

Final question: Do I have to fly to Perth for this or are you practicing in Sydney periodically? And I mean you personally, not the other doctor.

Dr Oates wrote:
We will trial our first Ellanse patient in 2 weeks. I saw one of my Voluma patients from last year recently. He wanted more, not that he needed it replaced from degradation - he was very happy it was all still there.

aleksk wrote: So the Mexican doctor I referred to stopped using Ellanse because of the high cost: he says Ellanse was never available for sale in Mexico after the initial promotional period and he couldn\'t continue to offer it at a reasonable price.

He uses now Belotero. He offers quantities starting from 8cc for 30,000. He injects 8-12 cc per session. This is a very good price. It\'s so good it\'s exciting and it gives me hope that there are option out there even for people like me who are not rich. I\'m starting to see it as an option already. Finally I found someone who offers high quality product at a reasonable price. I am sure there are many others - we just have to do the effort to find them. He guarantees the integrity of the product (told me would open in front of you). He also says if I visit him he can show me many before and afters.

Anyone who has had Belotero on this board or anyone else you know? Belotero has all the advantages of any other HA filler -- you can dissolve it and if you have any issues they are over in 48 hours and you can move on with your life. If you are happy you got a safe girth enhancement for a good price. They also say it lasts long.

Anyone geographically close to this doctor who can see him for an appointment and see before and afters? I checked the return flight from LA is quite cheap.

brock wrote: Done a lot of reading- thanks everyone. Dr. Oates has been very helpful and I think unbiased- so thanks Doc. The other popular Doc on this forum and a little closer to home is Dr. C. After going to his site- I found this Ellanse compound he is now offering and is the subject of this thread.
To me- someone who is a little gun shy of permanent irreversible PMMA in my piece - this may be a good 3 year test to see how i like the new girth before plunging into more permanence?
Or even a touch up even ever 2 years sounds reasonable.
Do you guys think Ellanse, the 3 and soon to be 4 yr versions will be the \'next big thing\'?
I\'m really (REALLY) considering reaching out to Doc C about this, maybe a PRP before hand to give him a little extra room to work with?
I would love to know how many people have used this filler specifically since its release and overall satisfaction level. My goal is .75 inches of width gain top to bottom - really concerned about aesthetics and would pay the extra $$ to go back instead of trying to do it all in one shot.

Herbert West wrote: Dr Oates, what do you know about \"Xiaflex\" and cortisone shot? Can it really soften scar tissue or even all connective tissue such as tunica albuginea?

aleksk wrote:
I\'d also like to know that.

@Dr Oates: thanks for your thoughts about Ellanse. It would have been good to document that case with the auto-immune response, as I couldn\'t find anything like that in the literature (and I read Spanish and German aside from English). It would be useful to publish something like that and motivate the manufacturers to see why it happens and improve the product. I think fillers like Ellanse should become the gold standard due to its safety, longevity and bio-stimulating properties. If only it was dissolvable it would be perfect.

I understand Voluma may be the best in your experience, but one of the main things that attracted me to think about Ellanse is the fact that it doesn\'t absorb gradually like HA. I know you are saying Voluma last more than 1 year, but from the first month every month your penis becomes smaller as it absorbs. Not the case with Ellanse which is there until it\'s gone! Imagine you start dating someone you really like and on a month-to-month basis your penis becomes smaller. What on earth will your partner think 6 or 8 months down in the relationship? What happened to your penis?

I have a high opinion of you because I know the industry you work in very well in Australia. You are one of the very few innovative enough to explore and experiment. I hope you continue to experiment with fillers and not take Voluma as a given. It\'s too expensive for the majority of people.

hoddle10 wrote: @Dr Oates, Is Silikon1000 available in Australia?