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I wouldn\'t have Hyuloronic acid fillers if I were you. The studies published tend to be positive, but I\'ve never come across anyone who was pleased with the results. My urologist will do it, but he\'s not very enthusiastic about the results. They are just too soft and tend to move about.

However, recently a member has posted about his experience with Radiesse and was much more positive. I\'ve since found another positive report of Radiesse enhancement.

When you look into what the fillers are and how they work it makes sense that Radiesse would be superior to Hyaluronic acids. Radiesse works in avery similar way to PMMA, only it is temporary as it\'s made of biological material. It also appears that Radiesse gives more volume per ml injected and therefore it is affordble.

I actually think that it sounds like a brilliant option for those uncertain regarding PMMA. In my opinion most people would be better off trying a temporary filler first, but in the past this option wasn\'t available. However, if Radiesse is as suitbale as it sounds from what I\'ve recently read, then the option is now there, which is brilliant new for PE.

Like Hoddle I am interested in this temporary solution.

Apparently it can be injected using a cannula:

www.realself.com/question/new-flat-needle-inject-radiesse-face

I\'ve read lots of negative reports about the use of this stuff int he face, but they seem to be because it feels to firm and causes long term swelling. But this actually sound better in terms of the penis. When hyaluronic acids have been used in the penis, the problem has been that they are two soft and a lot is needed. The fact Radiesse is firm and swelling causes greater volume, seems much more suitable for the penis.

When Radiesse has been discusses in the past I never considered it a viable option as I thought it would be too expensive and feel soft. But the fact so much volume seems possible from such a small amount means cost wise it isn\'t too bad.

I paid $1300 for two Radiese syringes with Dr. greenwald and the gains are still there, not as big as when I had it done but definitively there. like I said I am very satisfied and my wife of 20 years too. I want to go with the PMMA because I want to get 6 or more EG and make it permanent, I am 39 years old and still want to be able to please my wife even though she says I don\'t need it, still it has been my long dream and I will go through with it anyways. I may cut the ligaments before the PMMA, not sure I have 6 to 6.5 normally... we\'ll see, I just want it thicker

This is very good news in my opinion. Two syringes is only 3ml. For those who are on the fence regarding PMMA, this could be an excellent short term solution.

How long did your gains last?

The only problem is that if Dr C is correct (see MikeHoks post above), then a needle has to be used and this scares the hell out of me.

How much did you pay? I think 2 syringes is usually around $1600. But maybe he charge more as this is a more niche market.

If it could be done with a cannula I\'d do it soon. I could hold off on PMMA for another couple of years by having this.

I had it done with dr Greenwald of Tampa FL, he was very professional and even talked me out of having surgery to enhance my girth. He told me that I did not needed it and sugested to try a temp filler first and see if I was happy and then undergo surgery as a last resort. Like I said I had radiese, he used local aneste.. and the procedure was painfree. He told me to massage it and to not have sex until I was pain free afterwards. The next few days I was a little sore and with some bruising but it went away in like two weeks. I just had two syringes and gained about 1/2 inch in girth. I know is not a whole lot but my main concer was that my penis used to be very small when not erect and after the procedure it hangs naturally to the point I am not longer ashamed to use the public bathrooms. I am about 6.5 to 6 3/4 EL and 5.25 EG after the procedure. It used to be 4.85 to 4.75 EG so there you have it.

harleyman wrote: sparticus to answer your post; Radiese does not make your penis feel like putty, as I said before I had it earlier this year Feb to be specific and I am still very satisfied with the results. at first it was a little bumpy but with massage and time it became more natural looking. I want to have the PMMA because it seems to be a permanent filler, the idea of having a doc with needles and stuf near my penis makes me uneasy, if you know what I mean? thats why I just want to go one more time and that\'s it...

Hi Harleyman, I\'m very interested to hear more about your experience with Radiesse.

WHere did you have this done?

How much did they inject and what were your gains?

How much did it cost?

sparticus to answer your post; Radiese does not make your penis feel like putty, as I said before I had it earlier this year Feb to be specific and I am still very satisfied with the results. at first it was a little bumpy but with massage and time it became more natural looking. I want to have the PMMA because it seems to be a permanent filler, the idea of having a doc with needles and stuf near my penis makes me uneasy, if you know what I mean? thats why I just want to go one more time and that\'s it...

Hi, this is the first time I post here. Earlier this year I had PE with Radiese and have been thinking about going again but use PMMA instead. Does anyone know if injecting PMMA on top of the Radiese would have any complications?

smartman wrote: 1) There was a case report presented in January 2012 in British Journal of Dermatology about a patient who had previously dermal fillers injection in her face (e.g. Hyaluronic acid, Radiesse and etc.), she developed disfiguring facial edema after 1 month of taking an expensive drug Omalizumab (Xolair) for the treatment of severe persistant allergic Asthma.

www.bioportfolio.com/resources/pmarticle...b-Treatment-For.html

Now the Q. is :- Can this drug cause FBG formation in a patient who had e.g. pmma penile injection ??


2) Also as we know Interferon used for the treatment of Hepatitis-C patients which can induce sarcoidosis if injected in patients who had a dermal filler (e.g. Hyaluronic acid or silicone etc.)

So should a patient with Hepatitis-C (which might necessitate interferon treatment) not to get pmma injection.

lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:18446029

Very interesting information Smartman, and these questions only lend themselves to an even more pressing question: are there any medications/treatments used for other ailments that may increase the likelihood of FBG? Is there a class of medication to look at?

This forum can be extremely useful in sorting out such data, and it may prove beneficial for men submitting progress reports to also mention any medication they may be taking outside of those prescribed for penile bioplasty (i.e. antibiotics).

@Progress Reporters

Be sure to mention any kind of medications you are taking worth noting (e.g. I doubt Tylenol needs to be mentioned), as it may prove beneficial in the long run if & when FBG\'s are reported.

1) There was a case report presented in January 2012 in British Journal of Dermatology about a patient who had previously dermal fillers injection in her face (e.g. Hyaluronic acid, Radiesse and etc.), she developed disfiguring facial edema after 1 month of taking an expensive drug Omalizumab (Xolair) for the treatment of severe persistant allergic Asthma.

www.bioportfolio.com/resources/pmarticle...b-Treatment-For.html

Now the Q. is :- Can this drug cause FBG formation in a patient who had e.g. pmma penile injection ??


2) Also as we know Interferon used for the treatment of Hepatitis-C patients which can induce sarcoidosis if injected in patients who had a dermal filler (e.g. Hyaluronic acid or silicone etc.)

So should a patient with Hepatitis-C (which might necessitate interferon treatment) not to get pmma injection.

lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:18446029

\"Norahh\"who posted that Q. \"Removal of PMMA from her cheek\" in ReakSelf was from Venezuela and what I read in this country they use a mixture of PMMA (30%) with silicone (70%) and it is mentioned that it is cheaper than 100% pmma (or sometimes they mix pmma with hydrogel).
She said : she started to notice a swelling under her eyes after 6 yrs and the product was not injected in this area ---> if the swelling contains the product and not only because of the edema from the infection ---> migration of the product ; this can happen actually with silicone or hydrogel and not with pmma.

Check the post from \"serching\" in the following forum :-
www.topix.com/forum/charlotte/TSIAOT7JBAQ0587DK/p11

Also \"Norahh\" asked another 2 Q.s beside that Q. \" How to remove pmma from her cheek injected 6 yrs ago ? \" :-
www.realself.com/user/150286
1- How to remove Radiesse from her cheek injected 3 yrs ago ??
www.realself.com/question/remove-radiesse-cheeks
2- Will Acetylcholine injection in the cheeks dissolve Radiesse ??
She mentioned also \"she was not sure if it was Radiesse or not\" ??
Usually Radiesse lasts between 9-18 months and not 3 yrs.
www.realself.com/question/acetylcholine-...eeks-dissolve-filler
There is also a person who has a great knowledge about dermal fillers esp. PMMA injection \"spy9doc\" ( PMMA in Venezuela) :-
messageboards.makemeheal.com/buttocks-au...nezuela-t107851.html
So it is very important which pmma product is going to be injected, the doctor\'s experience (also in dealing with any early and late complications ) and his technique (it is actually a learning curve).

found something i didnt look for that might fit here i guess...sounds bad for pmma use overall unfortunately

www.realself.com/question/remove-pmma-filler-cheeks

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Tags: PMMA, revision Hi Drs. 6 years ago i had PMMA injections in my cheeks. 3 months ago, i started having swelling in my cheeks and under my eyes (even though the PMMA was not injected under my eyes). The swelling is increasing day after day, my cheeks feels very warm on touch, i feel pain in my eyes and head. And when i touch the bone under the filling, i feel a small nodule. I asked many doctors in my country, some advised to inject steroids, others to do surgical incision. I\'m very worried! Please advise! 6 answers to How Can I Remove PMMA Filler from my Cheeks? +1 Possiblity of Infection - See a Facial Plastic Surgeon It sounds like you may have a developing infection and I urge you to see a Facial Plastic Surgeon, ENT, Dermatologist or Plastic Surgeon for evaluation ASAP. PMMA is a permanent filler and can\'t be removed except by removing (typically through liposuction) the fatty tissues within which the PMMA was injected. That\'s why I prefer to use Cheek Implants or a temporary filler like Perlane and Radiesse for Cheek Augmentation. Francis R. Palmer, III, MD
Beverly Hills Facial Plastic Surgeon drfrancispalmer.com +1 The disasters of Artefil and Artecoll The are injectable beads of plexiglass that should never made it on the market place. There were highly endorsed by Alastair Carruthers who practiced medicine for companies such as Allergan,Medicis and Artes without a green card or a US License of any type.He together with William Coleman controlled virtually all cosmetic misinformation in the Journal Dermatologic Surgery. As I stated, \"As injectable fillers become mainstream it is no surprise people are looking for longer lasting and less expensive alternatives to prevent facial wrinkles. Dr. Arnold Klein, world-renowned cosmetic dermatologist with a busy practice in Beverly Hills says, \"Fillers such as Artefill, Radiesse and Sculptra contain injectable Plexiglas, bone and suture material. When injected into human tissue, all of these products can cause foreign body reactions,\" Klein warned, \"in which the body\'s immune system attacks these implants and bacterial biofilms can encase them, causing hard, red, painful and sometimes oozing nodules.\" Klein continued, \"In the case of Artefill, a permanent filler, we have scientific studies showing these reactions occurred many years after the injections were administered.\"With this combination of poor science and little long-term testing, each patient\'s response to these products is really unknown, according to Klein. The consequences can include lumps under the skin, long-term scarring and facial deformity Klein warned which can only be corrected by surgery Share Tweet Share via Email Arnold W. Klein, MD
Beverly Hills Dermatologic Surgeon www.drarnoldklein.com +1 Removal of PMMA filler from cheeks This problem is not one observed with hyaluronic acid fillers which can be readily dissolved with hyaluronic acid. With a permanent filler, come potentially permanent problems. That said, I\'d consider injecting kenalog (cortisone) to see if that helps, or otherwise even normal saline to see if it can be broken up. With the swelling and pain, I\'d first consider an oral antibiotic for 4-6 weeks, and then even consider a short course of prednisone for the swelling. If things don\'t subside after all of that, then excision of the affected area should be considered. Share Tweet Share via Email Benjamin Barankin, MD
Toronto Dermatologic Surgeon +1 Removal of PMMA after Injection in Cheeks PMMA crystals are permanent spheres injected into the skin in a gel which ultimately absorbs. In the United States the most commonly used product is called Artifill. Unfortunately it sounds like you have developed an infectiion or a reaction to the material which is still in your skin. Antibiotics will be necessary; removal should be considered, but this is extremely difficult. Richard W. Fleming, MD
Beverly Hills Facial Plastic Surgeon +1 Swelling with PMMA PMMA (polymethylmethacrylate) is a filler similar to acrylic. Unfortunately, there is no perfect filler. The great thing about juvederm and restylane is that they are not permanent. Thus, if you hate your results, the injector can evacuate the filler or wait for it to resorb. The great thing about PMMA is that it is semi-permanent. This can also be a bad thing, as you\'ve seen. The swelling and redness you\'re experiencing sounds like a low grade infection. I would begin with antibiotics. Steroids may be a beneficial adjunct, but should only be added judiciously. They impair the body\'s ability to fight infection. If these measures fail, there are few alternatives to surgical excision. Good luck!! Share Tweet Share via Email Jason R. Hess, MD
San Diego Plastic Surgeon +1 How Can I Remove PMMA Filler from my Cheeks? Start antibiotics, and when decreased redness plan an excision. Might be very hard to excise. From MIAMI Darryl J. Blinski, MD
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Hoddle, I sort of agree with you. Plus, I don\'t knw what my face will look like with filler. I might opt for a test-drive with Radiesse or an HA. Thx

I really think you guys should look to procedures with safer outcomes for the face. Things like restylane and radiesse can do wonders for things like nasolabial folds. Remember with facial procedures you are injecting more superficially, which leads to higher complication rates (I think Lemperle mentioned that himself).
Bottom line: if there are demonstrably safer alternatives, why not consider those?