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mjb0112358 wrote: CMB Complaints

This is big, I've been following this for a while now -- it appears now it's only a matter of setting a hearing to pass judgment. This may be when they finally lay the actual hammer down! We're talking straight up losing his medical license! HOLY!!!

I know so many visitors to this site have shared their horror stories about the silicone implant, dating back to this site's inception. Many newcomers may not know, but this industry has (and still does to some extent), questionable players & procedures. One of this forum's mission was to guard against unscrupulous medicine in the field of male enhancement, and I hope that this community's endeavor over the years played a part in seeing justice through.

I never understood it. He had to have known how flawed his device was. He could have decided to consider SO MANY other alternative ways to enlarge the penis. He could have dropped the implant many years ago, quit the B.S.ing and performed something more standardized & ethical like Hyaluronic Acid (HA) injections. But in the end, maybe he had no other way to fund his Ferrari lifestyle, who knows?

Of course nothing is set in stone right now but I'll be watching and reporting, thanks for the link @mjb0112358 !

CMB Complaints

Bill082263 wrote: Hello Maer,

I had my Elist scam in 2017 and feel frightened to have it removed in case it would cause further loss in sensation. Have you had sensation return to normal? I cannot climax through intercourse with my wife and REALLY want to go back to how things were.

Hello @Bill082263 , you are posting in the 2.0 Archives section which isn't live discussion. It's easy to make that mistake since you were probably looking up topics associated with Elist. In other words you probably won't get any replies within this thread.

If you want to start any new topics or discussions, you'll want to go to 3.0's General Discussion or 3.0's Progress Report section. I'd also strongly urge you to post on Penuma's subreddit to share with others who are in the dark about the implant's potential risks.

As for returning to how you were- climax is why we aim to get these procedures, to make sex more enjoyable, and I'm truly sorry to hear about your ordeal. I would honestly get a 2nd opinion, having the implant inside of you may only exacerbate your nerve/sensation issues over time. There are a handful of qualified physicians out there familiar with the implant, but I would at least reach out to Dr. Solomon regarding your case-- he's the most experienced with its removal and post-op healing & recovery.

He may still be offering virtual consultations if you can't visit his Philadelphia or Beverly Hills office.

Good luck.

I'm not sure why my decision to go with Bellafill makes you angry

I'm not sure where you derived this from. You getting Bellafill def doesn't make me angry, lol, you sound like the one who is getting angry. I was merely sharing what Dr. C said. I was comparing Linnea Safe and Bellafill. I'm not sure why that upset you. This forum exists to provide information. There were comments supporting Bellafill in the US as the most cost effective. This is false. Misinformation on this forum or anywhere is bad. You bought tickets to get the Penuma implant so you know all about misinformation.

You've made several posts here and in my results thread calling into question my results.

Again, assuming you're replying to my posts, at no time did I question your results. That's a false assertion. I was merely comparing Linnea Safe and Bellafill directly form the leading doctor in the world who performed these procedures. I was calling into question how Dr. Rupeka and Bellafill advertised the product which we determined to be inaccurate.

You have a bunch of words and opinions

From Dr. Casavantes

I have a bunch of pictures of a successful procedure

I never questioned your results. It was clear to anyone reading my posts that I was merely comparing which product had better value.

Instead of tearing down my decision or steering others away from it

Again, this forum doesn't exist to promote one product over another. We are here to simply provide and compare information. If someone wants to pay $2,000 dollars more for less PMMA in Ohio that's their decision.

I don't care what DR. or clinic people choose and I'm not sure why you do .

It only makes sense to care about this. That's why this forum exists. Because guys couldn't find the right doctor. Here you are wondering why I care about finding the right doctor when you booked a flight to get the Penuma implant. Huh, how ironic.

Consider for a moment that traveling to Mexico and staying there costs money

FYI It's cheaper to stay in Mexico

Further more cost was not a factor in my decision . Not everyone is ok with leaving the country or spending days in Mexico .

I totally respect that. But Dr. Rupeka isn't known to be better than Dr. Morales and Avanti Derma. So it seems your decision was based solely on not leaving the country. I'm merely pointing out that Bellafill is NOT the best value if one doesn't mind traveling to Tijuana.

BDR_Design wrote: I completely agree with you on that. The less invasive "length" surgeries are unreliable at best and kinda disfigure the penis. The ligament cutting as an example is mild but makes erections hang at really weird angles. I am not sure how actual length can be added without a rather invasive procedure.

What complications can you see coming from this operation?

I've been told the erection angle change on ligamentolysis is a myth by a few surgeons. Obviously they could be saying that in order to pitch their procedure but I don't have a reason not to believe them. Lengthening progress reports are exceedingly rare, so even one mention of a change in erection angle would make it impossible to tell if it was a rare complication and we just have poor sample size, or a common complication that we just can't ascertain.

As for your surgery idea:
For one, I'm not sure how or what you mean by putting a sleeve "into the glans." The glans are about as tricky as they come when enhancing cosmetically, what you propose sounds like it could cause some damage. Maybe you can explain this better?

How does this differ from the Penuma or LEEP procedures on a fundamental level? I'll be frank, while it doesn't seem to be either Penuma or LEEP step-for-step, it shares some conceptual features which raise an eyebrow, given how inherently flawed Penuma & LEEP are.

To be honest, a sketch or drawing of this would make it a bit easier to digest. I think I follow what it is you are trying to do but not sure I'm wrapping my head around how this would "provide limitless length."

I'm not knocking your idea, and I think it's wonderful that we remain creative, but when it comes to the history of male phalloplasty, invasiveness + synthetic grafts have a notoriously poor track record. Yours has to eliminate this recurring trend.

Well if his dry-erase board drawings of what looks like an inept understanding of penile anatomy isn't enough to scare you, I don't know what will.

Silicone sleeves have always been a failure for elongation, but what is scary is that (1) his insertion method looks more dangerous than the Penuma method and (2) he's not a board certified surgeon.

Stay very far away.

I didn't want to be the one to post anything in this thread but since Noone else did i feel like someoneneeds to say it - my opinion is that all the inserts like Penuma or this one , the sleeve from LEEP are a terrible ideah. If you get an infection it's coming out possibly with severe consequences like peyronies and a shortened penis. If you brush you teeth to hard and get a infection in your blood and the infection gets on your implant- it's coming out . That's from a real case with Penuma. Further more Dr.Loria in my opinion uses a bullshit silicone filler that is super destructive and unsafe. I feel like he is a hack ( again in my opinion) . My advice is literally choose any other option

Decided to share my experiences here. I could certainly use the community's guidance. I'd completed a lot of research. Started looking at the penuma. Quickly realized the horror stories, booked a consult for Bellafill but soon realized I wasn't ready to go with a irreversible treatment. Decided I first wanted to get HA and booked an appointment. I'm two weeks in and want to chronical my journey.

A bit of background, I've always been a grower, not a shower. Pretreatment measurements, FL 3.5, FG 3.75, EL 7.25, EG 4.75.

I went in thinking I'd get 10-12 ml and plan for a follow up as I'd read about needed corrections. After erecting, however, my doctor realized my length and thought I might want to go with a bit more filler. She was right. I ended up with 16 ml. She said, I could go for up to 20, but, I decided I'd take it a bit slower and plan for a return.

I'll attach a pretreatment semi erect first. I have always been complimented in my length. But, I never was happy with the girth. I guess it is considered average, from everything I've read and had women comment on. But, I think the extra length always made me feel "skinny". This was made worse by my recently ended relationship. She appreciated girth in prior relationships and while never overt, would say things about how I didn't quite measure up in that area.


So, post-relationship, I dtermined that it was a good time to make that change... before starting anew with someone else. My procedure was July 12th, two weeks ago.

After receiving the 16 ml, I noticed a lot of the filler had been placed close to the base and middle sides. I also felt like it was off center and began massaging and working it out and around. This was taken the night after my procedure. Pretty swollen and some bruising already apparent.


I'll post the day after the procedure tomorrow.

FLguy78 wrote: Basically they fast fooded me through there. Didn’t really go over the implant sizes, he just put his biggest implant in me. It was a horrible experience, I’ve tried to forget about. Around 10 years ago. I wish I had never done it. I wish I had my money back. And I can only hope that sob gets put out of business so he can’t butcher anybody else.

I had a consultation there about 13 years ago, and I had the same fast food treatment - literally whisking me away from one consultation room to the other, very informal and unprofessional, then trying to set my schedule date THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND. Fortunately, I could not afford the procedure at the time and was there just to learn more. Realizing he couldn't book me, that's when Dr. Elist slowed down and put on his "charming, I really care about what I do" facade in hopes that I'd eventually return.

Just a year and a half later I created the original PhalloBoards ( phalloplasty.proboards.com ) after having uncovered his shenanigans on a separate (and now defunct) penis enlargement forum. In other words, it was his dishonesty (and to some extent, the dishonesty of the industry at that time) that lead to the creation of this platform.

Basically they fast fooded me through there. Didn’t really go over the implant sizes, he just put his biggest implant in me. It was a horrible experience, I’ve tried to forget about. Around 10 years ago. I wish I had never done it. I wish I had my money back. And I can only hope that sob gets put out of business so he can’t butcher anybody else.

LoriaMedicalReview wrote: You're right. I think he's only a dermatologist. He's promoting himself to a surgeon. Ha ha.

He doesn't care about his patients. He's just out to make another dollar. The man contradicts himself on his website. Supposedly, he's always been against the suspensory ligament cut. He probably should update his website. Here's information that is still on his website.

"Suspensory ligament cutting is a procedure that supposedly lengthens the erect and flaccid penile shaft. Loria Medical strongly disagrees with the claim that this procedure has any positive value. This procedure involves a major surgical operation that cuts certain ligaments located at the very base of the penile shaft near the pubic bone. This procedure typically yields not only poor results but may actually shorten your penile erect length. This procedure is supposed to increase the penile erect length; however, it fails to do this in the majority of cases and in the best scenario may increase the flaccid length by ¼ to ½ inch.
Suspensory ligament cutting is not recommended."

However, new Leep procedure now, which involves ligament cut and sleeve. Every surgeon that I have found online that does the sleeve or Penuma implant, does the insertion at the base. I'm with you, his method sounds pretty risky. I was definitely interested in flaccid gains with the sleeve, but I want to have a working penis.

People hate him now. This new procedure could be disastrous for him.

To be honest, I'm not even sure he's a Dermatologist. I think he's just internal medicine/family doctor type who got into hair restoration years ago, then realized the cash cow penis enlargement was and knew he could use fillers off-label. If he's an ACTUAL dermatologist, that'd be news to me... and would give dermatologists a bad name.

Anyways I just realized this was a Penuma thread lol so we should get back on topic. As for length loss, it's to be expected with the implant, despite claims that the weight of the implant will create new length.

Anonymous2021 wrote: Dr Gelman at UCI removed mine. He is very skilled but also not very receptive to recommend any other reconstruction procedures. Dr Brant in Salt Lake City just recently helped remove some scar tissue. I had my Penuma because I thought it would help my Peyronie’s disease but it just made things worse.

Not to get off topic, but did Dr. Elist suggest or confirm to you that the implant would or could aid in the correction of your Peyronie's disease? If yes, that's horrific.

Dr Gelman at UCI removed mine. He is very skilled but also not very receptive to recommend any other reconstruction procedures. Dr Brant in Salt Lake City just recently helped remove some scar tissue. I had my Penuma because I thought it would help my Peyronie’s disease but it just made things worse.

Thank goodness I found this site. I almost went for a Penuma implant. But instead will go with a PMMA in TJ, but had a few questions if you could please clear up.I know I can ask Avaniti but I would prefer not to bother them if you guys had first hand experience.

- How soon did you actually have intercourse after procedure? Any pain?
- Can your wife tell the difference when giving you oral?
- I've read 2nd visit should be around 3 months .. can it be done 6 months? 1 year? or does it have to be exact 3 months? Can it be 3 weeks?
- Fortunately I live relatively close to TJ, I am in San Diego. Were you at all bed ridden or can you actually walk out on your own after surgery?
- Was there any pain after surgery and how long did the pain last?
- I noticed at one point there was a "Summer Special" pricing .. any more coming soon?

Thanks all !
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You're right. I think he's only a dermatologist. He's promoting himself to a surgeon. Ha ha.

He doesn't care about his patients. He's just out to make another dollar. The man contradicts himself on his website. Supposedly, he's always been against the suspensory ligament cut. He probably should update his website. Here's information that is still on his website.

"Suspensory ligament cutting is a procedure that supposedly lengthens the erect and flaccid penile shaft. Loria Medical strongly disagrees with the claim that this procedure has any positive value. This procedure involves a major surgical operation that cuts certain ligaments located at the very base of the penile shaft near the pubic bone. This procedure typically yields not only poor results but may actually shorten your penile erect length. This procedure is supposed to increase the penile erect length; however, it fails to do this in the majority of cases and in the best scenario may increase the flaccid length by ¼ to ½ inch.
Suspensory ligament cutting is not recommended."

However, new Leep procedure now, which involves ligament cut and sleeve. Every surgeon that I have found online that does the sleeve or Penuma implant, does the insertion at the base. I'm with you, his method sounds pretty risky. I was definitely interested in flaccid gains with the sleeve, but I want to have a working penis.

People hate him now. This new procedure could be disastrous for him.