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23 Jul 2011 12:10
Any word on a time frame when DrC will offer this?
23 Jul 2011 12:10
You are dealing with PE and a Dr from another culture and a different language so I think you may not get an exact answer, but please keep trying. It will benefit all of us.
23 Jul 2011 12:10
Smalljay: Keep up your inquiry! Thanks for researching and posting. It is much appreciated.
23 Jul 2011 12:10
This is very exciting.. just wish they had more before and afters. My glans are SMALLLL.
23 Jul 2011 12:10
This website does give a lot of hope on the procedure.. I am really looking forward to PMMA + Lipen D in the near future.
23 Jul 2011 12:10

smalljay wrote: I know it seems like I\'m the only one still all over this thread, but it just amazes me what continual persistence can uncover in today\'s modern world. For instance, just MONTHS ago, at the beginning quarter of this year, the general knowledge around here (and around most of the world) was that glans enhancement was virtually impossible - the only options were a small handful of marginal, risky or unsatisfactory \'solutions\' (hyaluronic acid, skin graft transplant, etc etc). Now, we at least have Lipen D. It materialized to us magically, out of the ether, thanks to the research of one Smartman. For those of us with exceedingly small glans who\'ve always heard there was no solution, this is a true Godsend (hell, even the manual PE forums shot down our hopes - with actual glans gains being considered very rare/improbable over at Thunder\'sPlace).

I just wanted to take this time to re-post the website of the clinic \'Well Being\' who performs this Lipen D glans enhancement: www.wbclinic.co.kr/index.php?mid=man_2

I\'m posting it because I (somehow) just noticed it for the first time today. I\'ve never, ever been to their site before, never knew it existed. Smartman posted that link on page 3 of these forums, yet even after reading every post in this thread two times over, I somehow still missed it. That just goes to show the value in re-reading threads and information here on these forums. There have been several \'Eureka\' moments I\'ve had when researching PMMA, glans enhancement, etc - moments that I did NOT have when reading through the information for the first time. I think that in order (for me at least) to be truly knowledgeable about these topics, I definitely MUST read the topics more than once. For me this is the same with progress reports, clinical studies, and threads like this. There are always VITAL, CRITICAL details that I catch the second time around but somehow miss the first time reading, perhaps because of the initial \'information shock\' that a newbie can get when delving into a topic of the unknown.

I\'m kind of babbling here, but I think it\'s a vital point. If you want to have ideal results you have to put in the damn work and read, and RE-read. At least, my stupid brain requires it - some of you may absorb information better than myself. Damn, this procedure has me excited. Could be a great excuse for me to travel to Korea and check out the women there. God damn I\'ll be so tall (actually I\'ve heard that lots of Koreans are tall and that the short asian stereotype is usually more oriented with mainland Chinese. But who cares - a boy can still dream about being extra tall in Korea).


It\'s this inquisitive nature, this need to re-read and & re-analyze that nourishes our forum\'s contents, and I\'m glad you see this. Furthermore, Smartman is one of the top 3 most resourceful members we have on this forum (alongside Hoddle & Miracle), so it comes as no surprise.

I had the same fervor, interest, & tenacity as you did smalljay when I first started this forum, and I\'m glad this attitude persists in some of our newer-generation members.

Glans enhancement is still relatively risky, despite Dr. Cho\'s advancements. Whatever advancements may come of age, it requires a motivated group of members to do the necessary research & discovery so that new methods become just as viable as current ones, much the same way our Pioneers gave way to PMMA.

23 Jul 2011 12:10
Hi Smalljay,

I have a question for Dr Cho. And that question is did he ever have a case of nodule formation using LIpen D as for example other fillers are known to sometimes form nodules when injected near the surface of the skin. This is important to consider, especially as the filler is used only a few millimeters under the skin in the glans. It would be great if you could question him for this or any other potential side effects from Lipen D, and the percentage of cases when mild, average or severe instances are observed.

Also, from his reply it seems that there is NO glans size increase during erection. In fact he says that the glans looks larger proportionately to a flaccid than when erect. This means that one gains a bit from the injection in flaccid state, and one retains this size during an erection. Hence one\'s glans will not be larger when erect than when flaccid, but it will however still be larger than it was before any treatment.

Cheers,

HC
23 Jul 2011 12:10
Ok wait... why can\'t we get multiple rounds of Lipen like you do in PMMA?

If it only lasts 2 years why can\'t someone simply get 2 or 3 rounds per year? Basically you get a round, wait 6 months, some gains go, but most would still be there and you build it up bigger the next round and so on... ? Would it work the same?
23 Jul 2011 12:10
I think this is a very exciting option and something I would like to pursue. I just wish that it was not a temporary solution. Yes, it lasts for 2 years, but that is only 6 months longer than the next alternative.

Or maybe I am missing something.
23 Jul 2011 12:10
Good work smalljay!! getting excited about this procedure!! my glans are smaller in circumference than my midsize girth.. it sucks.. hoping this may be the help for that.
23 Jul 2011 12:10
@smalljay you are welcome, epidermal necrosis is very rare due to bad technique, and believe me I don\'t think Dr.Cho or any other Drs will admit to their patients that they had one case of epidermal necrosis ????
23 Jul 2011 12:10
Hi Smalljay,

I will try to explain it much better :- This korean Dr. studied the anatomy of the penile glans very well ; he found that the penile glans contains 3 parts with different thicknesses :-

1- The outer layer is \"the Epithelium\" with a thickness not more than 1mm ---> so injecting the dermal filler superficial under the epithelium (i.e. between the epithelium and the lamina propria ---> it will cause lifting the epithelium) ---> unpleasant, unnatural, flowered, shiny or rough (or even epidermal necrosis in rare cases) with a shorter period result. You can see this unpleasant result in the 2nd pic. of the glans in the following site :-

www.wbclinic.co.kr/index.php?mid=man_2

2- The middle part is \"the Lamina Propria\" this is the most important one in regard of glans enlargement with a thickness range from 1mm at the corona of the glans to 2.5 mm at the periphery i.e. around the opening of the urethra ---> injecting the dermal filler in the central area of the Lamina Propria ---> The best esthetic with a longer result.

3- The inner part is \"the Corpus Spongiosum\" ---> into bloodstream ---> dangerous ---> Emboli ??


So the idea of Glans enlargement is how we can expand the Lamina Propria uniformly and to get an augmented Glans with a natural shape ---> Is by injecting the filler (at a tilted angle) into the central area of the Lamina Propria. So he found that the best way is to insert the needle in the central area of the thickest part of the Lamina Propria i.e. around the opening of the urethra and not at the corona (which has the thinnest lamina propria) and the doctor should feel always pressure resistance during the injection of the filler i.e. he is in the right place (otherwise the injection of the filler will be into the corpus spongiosum).


In Summary :-

* The old technique (conventional) where they insert the needle at the corona (where thinnest L.P. is) ---> the chance the filler will be outside the Lamina Propria is high ---> the chances of flowered glans (due to superficial injection i.e. under the epithelium) or emboli (due to deep injection i.e. into the C.S.) results are high.

* His new technique where he inserts the needle around the opening of the urethra (where thickest L.P. is) ---> i.e. the chance the filler will be inside the Lamina Propria is high ---> Lamina Propria expansion ---> the chance of a pleasant and a natural shape augmented glans result is high.
23 Jul 2011 12:10
Has anyone had LIPEn-10 in Korea...is it safe..i have read that it can cause problems for girth...been on this site for about a year...
23 Jul 2011 12:10
If the dermal filler was injected deeper than 3mm from the outer surface ---> it will be injected into the Corpus Spongiosum (into the bloodstream) ---> no gain (but there will be a chance of emboli formation).
It has to be injected within 2-3 mm from the outer surface and not deeper i.e. in the Lamina propria only; to get the best longer result.
23 Jul 2011 12:10
I had my glands done with DR. L in Miami. it lasted about two weeks along with everything else he did. No problems it just didn\'t last. I will be going to Dr. C in a few weeks I am going to try to talk him into doing my glands.
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