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There is another study which shows the long term follow up \"the lasting of Artecoll 15 years \"
But they have also mentioned something which is important for EQ incase if you decide to have Artefill for Chin augmentation
You have mentioned :- ((@Dd71 - I am pretty comfortable with Artefill. I just had another discussion with another plastic surgeon (the third) about using it for chin augmentation work I am considering.))Serious complications after ArteFill injections, such as granuloma formation, have not been reported due to the reduction of PMMA microspheres smaller than 20 microm to less than 1% \"by the number.\"So if that is ( i.e. < 1% of the beads in Artefill are less than 20 micron) true, I think you have only one choice left for you now fft for chin augmentation . ( you have mentioned before in your opinion fft and artefill are much safer than the others ).I have mentioned that because you have said you are worried from any complications coming from the small beads in the Newplastic (e.g. in regard of migration).So you must be now worried from Artefill , unless if you say <1% small beads are no contra-indication for me.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19787393

Yes I had Artecoll injection in one side of my face, it was in 1996 in Frankfurt by Prof. Lemperle , the volume I had has not reduced till now.
PMMA beads are permenant , non-biodegradable , as we know the increase in volume after pmma injection will come mostly from the new formation of collagen (e.g. 20% beads and 80% new collagen) as we age our body\'s collagen (in every part of our body) will reduce in its volume, so sure in > 10 -15 yrs we might need touch-ups just to make more new collagen , I just dont think its a disadvantage of pmma , its due to nature.
www.houstonmedcenter.com/articles/ArteFi...jmicroimpl_pmma.html

Smartman himself has had pmma for 15 years I believe and I\'m not aware of it diminishing over that period. Perhaps you could comment smartman ?

@jackalot
The first time I hear that it was NOT permanent or only SEMI-permanent was through these Artefill \"spokespeople\" on Youtube, so not sure what to make of it yet. Will have a lot to report on in a week and a half from now, 2nd round coming soon!

I am so confused now, I thought it built up collagen? but it doesn\'t last? and it seems like it doesn\'t migrate much, so where the hell does it go? would it dissipate evenly or are these guys gonna look like Swiss cheese in a few years?

smartman wrote: @EQ,
Lets say the migration of these small beads is true :-
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So from these points ( it is like human experiments and not animal experiments ) wouldn\'t be enough to show at least one ill-patient???
EQ I am only trying to get the truth as all of us from the whole thing, Dr. Cohen will make it easier for us if he can show us at least one patient , could you help us to get this information from him or from other doctors , I have tried but he unfortunately didn\'t answer my Q. (i.e. our Q.) .

@smartman - Replied in a new thread so as not to clutter this thread with negative info. phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5395825

Just a thought but if a collagen matrix is formed around these beads, the collagen should provide indefinite framework with no real timeframe for degradation.
Regardless of the permanence, PMMA appears to be a reasonable long term solution to penis girth enhancement. Even if a touch up was required ten years down the road, it would be worth it. The bigger concern would be if a touchup is required, will a physician be available to perform this touch up?

@jackalot
A lot of Youtube clips discussing Artefill show some so-called expert suggest it lasts \"longer\" than temporary fillers (instead of using the term permanent). Some videos have quoted 3-5 years, others have said 10 years, one even said \"10 years or longer.\" Seems like the experts need to get this stuff clarified.
Another question for the doc.

Thanks for the warm welcome. I had read the old thread over the last few weeks which helped me ask the right questions from the Doc. My wife said she will participate in that other forum. When she signs up I\'ll post here her \'nick\' so any who want to follow or comment can.

So please watch this video at the end he says the results of artefill will only last 5 years... granted he is talking about use for wrinkles and it is not new plastic, but how does that relate to new plastic injections for the penis? are results not permanent? I am very confused by this. I also saw another video saying it only last 3 years.

When looking up PMMA on wiki, i found this statement, whether its true or not at least during a nuclear holocaust it seems like you\'ll never have to worry about loosing your shlong

PMMA is used as a shield to stop beta radiation emitted from radioisotopes.I checked out pubmed.gov, in that reference site they have numerous articles on the application use of PMMA from commercial industry to medical/dental uses. Sadly you don\'t get alot out of reading an abstract \"/

Hey guys,
I found a link to a special issue of Dermatologic Surgery (2009) on the management of complications arising from fillers. The issue includes an article by Cassuto (the guy who can apparently remove PMMA), as well as other references that look good. Problem is - I can\'t access the full article. Does anyone subscribe to a service that will let them see the full thing?
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dsu....35.issue-s2/issuetoc

Based on the Google search I did for \"Daniel Cassuto pmma\", I think the article that discusses his technique in this issue is: \"Recommendations and Treatment Options for Nodules and Other Filler Complications\". He himself has a separate article in that issue.

@PMMAalltheway
Welcome aboard! August 18th isn\'t too far and we look forward to your progress report! As for seeing pictures, usually their not visible until you\'ve completed the registration process (which requires you clicking on a link found in your email, check your spam folder if you don\'t see it in your main inbox). If you continue to have problems with photos, please let me know.
This PE discussion and community here is definitely the best!
Good luck!

@ PMMAallTHEway
Hi and welcome to the gang. You might ask your wife to join in on the other thread surveying what women think of size, this is a hotly debated topic and most of us are seeking to better target what is useful to obtain without necessarily going too far on the outside...
Cheers,
HC

Hi PMMAalltheway,
Welcome to the forum and good luck with your procedure. Feel free to start a progress log of your own to document your experiences. Also, as I am sure you\'ve done, make sure to really read through the PMMA thread both here and at the old site (phalloplasty.proboards.com) and ask as many questions, both of the community and the doctor, so you have a clear understanding of the risks involved. Welcome again!
Skatezy