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25 Jul 2011 22:37
@jabm good luck bro . happy healing .
GOD BLESS DR C
25 Jul 2011 22:13
Nice tool Miracle7 (chamatkar7) . good luck for your PMMA. and would you like to share some info regarding (TON of knowledge regarding penile curvature )
GOD BLESS DR C.
25 Jul 2011 21:39
I hope they will do the same with mine on August 26th.

25 Jul 2011 21:32
So on my way back to airport and home!

It went well! A bit more pain than last time!

few things to address:

The redness of the skin are of no concern and they gave a cream that will help (not cortisone!) Also they said it could take the full three months to reduce this. He said I should take londonlads advice and stop wanking lol.

They used 16cc of 10 percent solution. He was in a meeting with surgeons and manufacturers and the consensus was that in almost all case there is no more bulk achieve with 20 but there are bigger risks.

They really went to town drawing on my penis looking at area to focus more or less on and were really pleased. It looked very even afterwards.

I will report on bruising etc after 48hrs. I have no aims with this in terms of size increases but will measure in 6 days to see what\'s going on.
I asume SUPA or LONDONLAD was on the phone with him this morning?? He said the person knew more than him so it must be one of you lol
25 Jul 2011 20:02
25 Jul 2011 17:47
Morganstern did the same with PMMA. Even when he could no longer get it he told one of your members that if they can get hold if it he\'d inject of for them.

As I understand it, it\'s not illegal to inject fillers that aren\'t FDA approved, but it\'s illegal to import them. We had a member once who knew all about this kind of thing, but he was extraordinarily arrogant, so very difficult to get decent explanations out of, so I\'ve never been totally clear as to what the law is, but it\'s something close to that.
25 Jul 2011 17:47
I asked him about PMMA. He said he can\'t get it any longer. He says he has had really good success with endostimulation and addition of PRP. He says the men he has treated with their own fat are seeing the enlargement work successfully for 25 + years.
25 Jul 2011 17:47

hoddle10 wrote:

kcchief wrote: @hoddle no law issue just all ways seeking American Doctors input on the pmma issue. I can\'t understand why American doctors can\'t do this if the doctors in other country can? Is it a patient issue or what? Nothing wrong if American Doctor trying out pmma in the USA if it works else where. I understand it\'s a issue with the laws and FDA, and patient Issues. But how do we advance and be on the for front of Medical training if our doctors can\'t experiment? I not advocating this surgery here, but if there are men willing to risk it and doctors Willing to try it, won\'t we all be beter off? Nothing but respect for All you and the mods. We all here need this outlet. Kcchief


American Dr\'s did experiment with PMMA. PMMA is available in America. It\'s just very expensive and the carrier isn\'t that which is used in Bioplasty.

It costs a fortune to bring a product to market. No one is going to spend that sort of money unless they know they will have exclusivity for a period of time, that allows them to recoup their investment and then profit.

Once Suneva\'s patent runs out, there is no doubt cheaper, generic versions on PMMA will be available at a much cheaper price. Lots of Dr\'s will then start offering Bioplasty, many of them will be those who warn against PMMA now.


Any idea when the patent runs out for Suneva?
25 Jul 2011 17:47

kcchief wrote: @hoddle no law issue just all ways seeking American Doctors input on the pmma issue. I can\'t understand why American doctors can\'t do this if the doctors in other country can? Is it a patient issue or what? Nothing wrong if American Doctor trying out pmma in the USA if it works else where. I understand it\'s a issue with the laws and FDA, and patient Issues. But how do we advance and be on the for front of Medical training if our doctors can\'t experiment? I not advocating this surgery here, but if there are men willing to risk it and doctors Willing to try it, won\'t we all be beter off? Nothing but respect for All you and the mods. We all here need this outlet. Kcchief


American Dr\'s did experiment with PMMA. PMMA is available in America. It\'s just very expensive and the carrier isn\'t that which is used in Bioplasty.

It costs a fortune to bring a product to market. No one is going to spend that sort of money unless they know they will have exclusivity for a period of time, that allows them to recoup their investment and then profit.

Once Suneva\'s patent runs out, there is no doubt cheaper, generic versions on PMMA will be available at a much cheaper price. Lots of Dr\'s will then start offering Bioplasty, many of them will be those who warn against PMMA now.

25 Jul 2011 17:47
@hoddle no law issue just all ways seeking American
Doctors input on the pmma issue. I can\'t understand why
American doctors can\'t do this if the doctors in other country
can? Is it a patient issue or what? Nothing wrong if American
Doctor trying out pmma in the USA if it works else where.
I understand it\'s a issue with the laws and FDA, and patient
Issues. But how do we advance and be on the for front of
Medical training if our doctors can\'t experiment? I not advocating
this surgery here, but if there are men willing to risk it and doctors
Willing to try it, won\'t we all be beter off? Nothing but respect for
All you and the mods. We all here need this outlet.
Kcchief
25 Jul 2011 17:47
There is no evidence this guy has ever used PMMA. I can\'t find it advertised anywhere on his website and the only reason anyone thinks he does is because of a phone call one of our members made, where they wanted to charge $200 for a consult. The fact that he\'s even suggested he\'d inject the product if the patient brought it to him, tells you all you need to know about the guy. What kind of Dr would inject a product that they don\'t even know the source of?

Let\'s say it is technically legal (and it may well be) for someone to inject you with PMMA, it\'s still totally unpractical for a Dr to offer the service. The only way to get non Artefill PMMA is if it\'s smuggled into the country. The FDA recently sent out letters to MDs reminding them of their responsibility to ensure the products they offer patients are from FDA approved sources. It would literally be no different to you going into someones home and asking them to do it and signing waivers that rid them of responsibility.

EQstudent claimed \"for a fact\" that he knew 2 Dr\'s were doing non Artefil PMMA injections, but one is Dr M and there is zero evidence of him actually doing it. All he seems to do is want to get guys in for a consult and try and sell them FFT. The other Dr that EQ knows for a fact does PMMA, is Dr Blinski. Even if Dr Blinksi does offer the procedure, to his mind he is breaking the law. He says so himself:

\"The issue with PMMA is not that it can not increase the size but of it\'s sterility and injections techniques. It is not available \"legally\" here in USA. So if you are having it done in the states you should be very concern of where it was obtained, who is injecting, what risks are involved\"

www.makemeheal.com/answers/viewMBQuestion.do?qid=7197&eid=246


So, whilst EQstudent might think it\'s all hunky dory and above board, the Dr he knows to be doing it, clearly doesn\'t! How can anyone consider it a viable option to go to a Dr who will do a procedure they say isn\'t legal?


@kcchief, if you don\'t mind me asking, do you have some sort of legal issues that prevent you leaving the US?

I can\'t think of any reason why someone prefer to try and get this procedure done in America. Even if it\'s technically legal for someone to inject you, by using a non FDA approved product there would be legal recourse and your insurance wouldn\'t pay if something went wrong. So often I read US Dr\'s advising people getting procedures abroad to due lack or recourse if things go wrong, but in this case, you rights will be exactly the same. So you might as well be in Mexico or Brazil. At least in those countries you\'ll know the source of the product and that it hasn\'t smuggled illegally into the country. Also the Dr will be experienced, as opposed to virtually no experience at all, as is the case in the US. A lot of people see going to South or Central America for medical treatments as crazy, but in this case, it\'s actually more crazy to consider getting it done in the US, as you know for a fact that they guy performing the procedure isn\'t exactly the most above board kind of Dr.




25 Jul 2011 17:47
And what brand of pmma he has used in the past.
And what he is willing to use today.
Kcchief
25 Jul 2011 17:47

edatlanta wrote: I was referred to Dr. Steven Morganstern\'s Atlanta Office from my general practitioner. In my research I ran across this board and some other sites. What I found is that Morganstern used to use PMMA, but had trouble getting it. He now finds that using a patient\'s own fat produces the best results and I am thinking that is the way to go. The body does not reject it and it\'s the most natural substance. I have a friend in Nashville that has made the drive for years for Endostimulation and other treatments. He swears by him. I need enlargement help in both length and girth. I am optimistic and will keep you posted when I make an appointment.


Yes..Please let us know what he says about using PMMA...
25 Jul 2011 17:47
@edatlanta

Glad you brought it up! There was a debate going on in a separate thread about the legality of using Non-FDA approved PMMA (e.g. Metacril, Linnea Safe, etc) in the U.S. It was mentioned that Dr. Morganstern might have been a practitioner who has or does use non-FDA approved PMMA. Could you ask him about this in your consultation and/or correspondences? It would be appreciated!

25 Jul 2011 17:47
I was referred to Dr. Steven Morganstern\'s Atlanta Office from my general practitioner. In my research I ran across this board and some other sites. What I found is that Morganstern used to use PMMA, but had trouble getting it. He now finds that using a patient\'s own fat produces the best results and I am thinking that is the way to go. The body does not reject it and it\'s the most natural substance. I have a friend in Nashville that has made the drive for years for Endostimulation and other treatments. He swears by him. I need enlargement help in both length and girth. I am optimistic and will keep you posted when I make an appointment.
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