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Enhancement results 1 year 6 months ago #1308719980

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Just wanted to post my before and after. I am close to 7inBPEL and my Girth before was 5.3in. now it's about 5.8.

I got 25 syringes of Bellafill with Dr. Rupeka- who is great btw. I think next I'll try Avanti. I am on a decon now and want to wait another month or 8 weeks total before I go back to doing phalback's vibration pumping routine and maybe vibration Hanging. I dunno the bioscience is that the 1,000 of micro tugging causes fatigue in the tunica faster or something like that. I've observed vibration pumping does cause you to pack the tube much faster than just regular pumping.

Anyway just wished more people mentioned getting that noose and weighted ball Hanger before getting this procedure along with the leg strap. I'm not sure if it's okay to vac hang since they said vacuum would be like pumping no? And it would mess with the filler.

I have a small bump or shelf on the right and top near Circumcision. I'm hoping more filler or PE will even that out, despite me rolling it out on all angles for 10 days after the procedure.
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Enhancement results 1 year 5 months ago #1308720497

Looks amazing dude! Did you find that doing less for your first session made the aesthetics turn out better?

Also, does Rupeka suggest taking a more conservative approach like this? Would love your results when I do this !

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Enhancement results 1 year 5 months ago #1308720503

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No I did more than most but about the same as what Avanti Derma gives out.

I'm looking to go to Avanti Derma for my next procedure since there are a lot of doctors in Mexico. I was considering LASIK at CODET which is right down the street from Avanti. It cost like 6k to get LASIK in the US and 1k there.

I think alias9 had the best results I've seen so far, and he got roughly the same amount at Rupeka, then 2 visits to Avanti.

I would go with the max in my opinion, any nodules could be covered by a second procedure I would think. And then do extending 5-10lb 8 weeks after the procedure as many hours a day as you can 20min at a time. I'm using the hog vibe honestpe.shop/

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Enhancement results 1 year 1 month ago #1308721749

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So it's been 2 months since I went to Avanti Derma back in April.

Time flies, best experience hands down. (Picture order got messed up*) The last picture there was a gap near the base and a Nodule towards the top right from my first procedure. I told Avanti before they did the 2nd procedure and they made sure to put filler there to even it out.

The first picture was the night of the procedure. I was definitely much bigger/swollen then. I think I'll go back but after I've spent more time extending since I'd like to be longer.

The middle picture is current day. I went from 5.75 Girth to about 6.25 Girth I would say.

The best advice I can give is don't buy bottled water in the hotel, it's much cheaper at the pharmacy or convenience store down the street. The breakfast buffet at the hotel is the best, some days I didn't eat anything else. Next time I go- maybe I'll try the Brazilian steak buffet about a mile away from the hotel. Also check your credit card to see if there are charges for using outside the US- I forgot to do that. Overall- a great experience, Ian and Dr. Morales were excellent.
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Enhancement results 1 year 1 month ago #1308721750

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Wow great results! Please keep us updated! Will your next PMMA session be a full session?
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Enhancement results 1 year 2 weeks ago #1308721902

We had about the same measurements. I'm 7.25-7.5 BPEL. Started at 5.25-3 MSEG and about 5" everywhere else.

My first round at AD i got 16x30% and 6x10%. and that got me up to 6"MSEG AND 5.75" elsewhere. Which is ~.75" increase compared to Ian's predicted .6" increase based on measurements after my first proceedure.

Just had my 2nd round and ended up getting 12x30% and 9x10% It was a bit more spread out since they had to fill in my Circumcision area more. But it looks like Ian is predicting ~+2 at the Circumcision line, 1.5 around the mid shaft area, and +1 at the base. That'd bring me pretty damn close to my size goals And she did an amazing job making my left and right side symmetrical.

Anyway, I'm rambling but i want to ask: how much filler you got on your second round?

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Enhancement results 1 year 6 days ago #1308722038

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Hey thanks for the feedback- to answer your two questions:

1) I would always go for full session. I wouldn't waste a trip to Avanti or anywhere unless it was for the maximum amount of filler. Usually people gaining .5 Inch on every trip so personally I'd go for that since the price would be roughly the same at Avanti.

2) I lost the sheet Avanti gives but in my notes it says I got 18x30% and 4x10% of LinneaSafe on my second trip. On my first trip to Rupeka I got 25 syringes of Bellafill.

Anyway I'm following an extending protocol maybe 23-25 minutes at a time to avoid getting a blister. I'm also doing one session of vibration pumping using the phalback method. I also do the red light therapy during extending for about 15 minutes, once per day 4 times per week.

According to Hink doing both extending and pumping would be a shorter time to gain length.

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Enhancement results 10 months 3 weeks ago #1308722633

Now that you’ve had sessions done at both repueka and AD which would you use moving forward. Also how
Significant was the cost difference?

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Enhancement results 10 months 3 weeks ago #1308722642

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I would have gone to Avanti first because they use the 30% linneasafe instead of the 20% Bellafill. Avanti uses a mixture of both 10% and 30% but you get more filler for the the money I guess.

If I could do things over I would go to Avanti for 3 rounds then maybe a minor touchup at Rupeka.

For now Rupeka is the only one that injects the underside of the shaft but I don't think I look uneven on the underside but if I do need it after my next round with Avanti I'll book an appointment with Rupeka.

The scenery is much nicer in Mexico though I must admit...

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Enhancement results 10 months 2 weeks ago #1308722648

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For now Rupeka is the only one that injects the underside of the shaft but I don't think I look uneven on the underside but if I do need it after my next round with Avanti I'll book an appointment with Rupeka.

Just a reminder for everyone here. Dr. Carney also injects the ventral (underside) portion of the shaft.
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Enhancement results 9 months 5 days ago #1308723354

What makes you say you would pick Avanti Derm over Rupeka for your first round? Is it because Avanti gives you more volume at a better bang for your buck? It seems like even when dudes do 25-30 syringes with Rupeka, Avanti’s result looks like a bigger difference.

That’s the decision I have to make soon. For me Rupeka Ohio office is only a 4 hour drive, his base package is 2800 down and then you pay monthly drawback is that it’s only 10 syringes. For Avanti, it’s 3800 for their base package no monthly payment but I gotta fly down there, get across the border to there, then pay for a hotel.

Obviously if money wasn’t a problem, Rupeka’s 60 syringes would be the easiest thing for me to do, since it’s only a 4 hour drive.

But it does seem like Avanti’s results are significant every time, like a 1+ Inch gain in Girth from one procedure.

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Enhancement results 9 months 4 days ago #1308723369

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Vongolaxespada1 wrote: What makes you say you would pick Avanti Derm over Rupeka for your first round? Is it because Avanti gives you more volume at a better bang for your buck? It seems like even when dudes do 25-30 syringes with Rupeka, Avanti’s result looks like a bigger difference.
More value, Mexico is nice, breakfast buffet was awesome. I drove 6+ hours to Rupeka first in Ohio from NY, I'd rather be on a plane for that time. Plus Avanti does HA filler in the glans.

That’s the decision I have to make soon. For me Rupeka Ohio office is only a 4 hour drive, his base package is 2800 down and then you pay monthly drawback is that it’s only 10 syringes. For Avanti, it’s 3800 for their base package no monthly payment but I gotta fly down there, get across the border to there, then pay for a hotel.

Obviously if money wasn’t a problem, Rupeka’s 60 syringes would be the easiest thing for me to do, since it’s only a 4 hour drive.

But it does seem like Avanti’s results are significant every time, like a 1+ Inch gain in Girth from one procedure.

Rupeka also injects on the underside which some people say results in a more even look. I'm fine with how Avanti does it now. I'd recommend a pumping routing 5-8inhg for maybe 15-20mim twice a day to expand your penis for at least a month so they can fit more filler in there. I'm also doing extending now at 10lb for about 30 min a session. Otherwise if your skin is tight they can't fit that much filler.

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Enhancement results 8 months 1 week ago #1308723570

I'm going to settle the score once and for all. I've seen results from every angle and every spatial perspective ever posted on this platform going back 15 years, more sporadic cases posted on other PE-related Forums, Physician Before & After Galleries (as well as patient & physician discussion), and of course my Private Message and Email boxes (also dating back well over a decade) -- and I'm not remotely convinced that Avanti Derma's approach yields any significant (much less negligible) difference with respect to overall gains & natural aesthetics.

This is true not just compared with Youthology but other Providers who offer PMMA like Shafer Clinic (NYC), Rejuvall (Atlanta), Dr. Sullivan (Florida), and Dr. Liu (Northern California), all of which may have subtle variations in their methodology since no single universal technique exists (i.e. no textbook on modern penis enlargement exists as far as I know). Worth noting, all of those I mentioned are gifted in their own way as far as injection technique is concerned, otherwise I wouldn't have brough them on board.

The premise as far as I understand it is that Avanti Derma has been notably risk-averse ever since they discontinued using Silikon1000 (in micro-droplet for small superficial areas of treatment for improved aesthetics), only to dismiss it altogether based on general cases from other questionable providers who used silicone oil in high volume in the penile shaft; while Avanti was not injecting silicone in these amounts, they joined alongside the network of PhalloBoards Sponsors to condemn its use in the penis altogether. I should note that I'm personally not against the use of what would amount to no more than 2-3 mL's/cc's via micro-droplet technique as recommended by the manufacturer as long as it was FDA-Approved Silikon1000, and was treating very surface level irregularities to give the shaft a more uniform look, and NOT 10, 20, or 30+ mL's/cc's for actual girth! At least that's my opinion, but I stand by the PhalloBoards No-Silicone Zone policy nonetheless. I share this story to explain that Avanti Derma's underside-injection reluctance comes from a place of of overall risk & safety, and while other Providers have shown that it may not be a universally (much less common) complication with underside injections (example: urethral compression), it doesn't seem to translate into what I'd consider a major consideration ahead of what truly should be prioritized, which I'll share below:

Your best is to seek out the Provider who has a (1) good reputation ( PhalloBoards Sponsors have been vetted and have a Public face on the Forums, holding them to a higher standard in an otherwise experimental field); [2] is most efficient logistically (travel, necessary excuses/alibis for work/etc; [3] caters to your specific goals within reason (if he promises you a literal eggplant of a dick, stay away); and [4] seems to impress you with their scope of professionalism, knowledge, and care, whether it is via consultation, reviews, or the initial procedure (since subsequent procedures are often inevitable if you have lofty goals). I personally think obtaining a good value is important as well, but the market has somewhat stabilized to between $5k-$10k for dermal injectables, and $10k-$20k+ for surgical implant procedures (namely dermal matrix grafts like Alloderm). This is why I think shopping for price is good, but should be used as a tie-breaker, not as a critical factor (penis enlargement is an elective procedure, a luxury, and a life-changing decision... don't cut corners with your one and only penis).

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Enhancement results 8 months 5 days ago #1308723613

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Skeptical_One wrote: I'm going to settle the score once and for all. I've seen results from every angle and every spatial perspective ever posted on this platform going back 15 years, more sporadic cases posted on other PE-related Forums, Physician Before & After Galleries (as well as patient & physician discussion), and of course my Private Message and Email boxes (also dating back well over a decade) -- and I'm not remotely convinced that Avanti Derma's approach yields any significant (much less negligible) difference with respect to overall gains & natural aesthetics.

This is true not just compared with Youthology but other Providers who offer PMMA like Shafer Clinic (NYC), Rejuvall (Atlanta), Dr. Sullivan (Florida), and Dr. Liu (Northern California), all of which may have subtle variations in their methodology since no single universal technique exists (i.e. no textbook on modern penis enlargement exists as far as I know). Worth noting, all of those I mentioned are gifted in their own way as far as injection technique is concerned, otherwise I wouldn't have brough them on board.

The premise as far as I understand it is that Avanti Derma has been notably risk-averse ever since they discontinued using Silikon1000 (in micro-droplet for small superficial areas of treatment for improved aesthetics, only to dismiss it altogether based on general cases from other questionable providers who used silicone oil in high volume in the penile shaft; while Avanti was not injecting silicone in these amounts, they joined alongside the network of PhalloBoards Sponsors to condemn its use in the penis altogether. I should note that I'm personally not against the use of what would amount to no more than 2-3 mL's/cc's via micro-droplet technique as recommended by the manufacturer as long as it was FDA-Approved Silikon1000, and was treating very surface level irregularities to give the shaft a more uniform look, and NOT 10, 20, or 30+ mL's/cc's for actual girth! At least that's my opinion, but I stand by the PhalloBoards No-Silicone Zone policy nonetheless. I share this story to explain that Avanti Derma's underside-injection reluctance comes from a place of of overall risk & safety, and while other Providers have shown that it may not be a universally (much less common) complication with underside injections (example: urethral compression), it doesn't seem to translate into what I'd consider a major consideration ahead of what truly should be prioritized, which I'll share below:

Your best is to seek out the Provider who has a (1) good reputation ( PhalloBoards Sponsors have been vetted and have a Public face on the Forums, holding them to a higher standard in an otherwise experimental field); [2] is most efficient logistically (travel, necessary excuses/alibis for work/etc; [3] caters to your specific goals within reason (if he promises you a literal eggplant of a dick, stay away); and [4] seems to impress you with their scope of professionalism, knowledge, and care, whether it is via consultation, reviews, or the initial procedure (since subsequent procedures are often inevitable if you have lofty goals). I personally think obtaining a good value is important as well, but the market has somewhat stabilized to between $5k-$10k for dermal injectables, and $10k-$20k+ for surgical implant procedures (namely dermal matrix grafts like Alloderm). This is why I think shopping for price is good, but should be used as a tie-breaker, not as a critical factor (penis enlargement is an elective procedure, a luxury, and a life-changing decision... don't cut corners with your one and only penis).


I agree, the users I've seen that got the underside done I don't really see that much of a difference compared to Avanti's technique. I also reached out to Avanti about the glans enhancement and they said they would not recommend injecting HA anywhere but the ridge of the glans.

I haven't seen anyone else post about the glans enhancement except for that one user on here that claimed to have over 14cc of HA injected over 3 procedures into his glans. Avanti warned of necrosis so I guess I'm not going to try injecting anything into the glans except for the ridge.

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Enhancement results 8 months 5 days ago #1308723615

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HA filler seems to yield smoother results. I have PMMA and some areas are a little bumpy but not noticeable. But I do see some users complain about the squishyness/ softness of HA where as PMMA makes your penis more rigid if I had to describe it.

The one complaint I see is that the body absorbs HA relatively quickly where as PMMA is permanent.

However the one thing I see is that no one has really posted about glans enhancement. Usually increasing the Girth of the penis will make the glans look much smaller. One user claimed he went to a doctor that was putting 4-5cc of HA just in his glans. When I asked if Avanti could do this they said that it could cause Necrosis so they only inject about 1cc along the crown/ ridge of the glans to give a flared look but nothing in the head because of the risk of complications.

Also nothing but HA would be safe to inject into the glans- it's more complicated than the shaft, so any enhancement would be temporary.

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