TOPIC: A journey about to begin

Hi everyone this is my soon to begin journey for PE, enjoy!

bicboyanaconda733 wrote: Hi everyone this is my soon to begin journey for PE, enjoy!

Awesome! What procedure and Clinic have you opted to go with?

When I first got interested in PE I started on many manual. pumps, pill etc they never worked long term. Then I watch the documentary "big like me" And how he went to mexico to make his penis bigger and managed it!!! How ever disclaimer, The protagonist in big like me for lack of better word or just simply wanting to be polite....Well he was very reckless after his procedure, he smoked , he was drinking whiskey... I mean directly after his procedure. And then believe he went out flaunting his gains and trying to hook up with prostitutes or basically easy women. I really want to be polite and not to refer to him as a complete..... never mind lets carry on to the important stuff.

I am about to embark on a long journey of PE, it will be detailed and when the time comes.. from start to finish with pictures and a lot of details. Many Facts and a lot of my personal observations and pictures ofcourse. The very first thing I will mention is the impressions I had 2 choices to begin with. 1) Dr "Loria" was my first with his Explanations and model huge penises and tutorials about how to do stuff, and his examples of what he could do and how women go crazy for 6.5 inches of Girth, and trust me his model penis (molded dildos) and so on were very impressive. But, Dr L is just a silicon puppet master you must avoid like the plague.

Moving on to "Androfill" You visit their website they have tons and tons of info about all their fillers and their famous surgeon Dr Horn. This one took the cake, They blast their entire website with various fillers while mean while telling you the best filler (ELLANSÉ) cannot be used by first time users and that the maximum fillers they offer first time users are Hyaluronic Acid. Some crap that last a few months and then you have to come back to give them more money. And their catch and pull is that you need experience to form the implant. It makes me laugh because the amount of money you have to pay in order to qualify is literally double than if you just went for ELLANSÉ straight away. They literally think you are an imbecile that needs to practice on their cheaper stock to make them more money, instead of giving you something that lasts and make you happy. Just so they can make more money off of you. I have sent them many e-mails requesting ELLANSÉ but they always force you to go for lesser products that last less time just so that they can make more money from you. They use every excuse under the sun to make you believe them and pick their crappy temporary fillers so they can take advantage of you and your money. Mean while if you even mention PMMA They will literally warn you against it like you are about to make a deal with the devil, mean while they wont let you try ELLANSÉ unless you get their crappy other temporary fillers first.

And finally There is Avanti Derma "The good guys" Avanti Derma is a whole different story. These guys will reply to you, these guys will explain what you have to do before you come, these guys will answer with out bullshit. They have done it all and will explain what you need and once you arrive pay them and commit.. they will execute as they promised.

Quite literally all you have to do before you attempt Penis enlargement or augmentation procedure Are the following simple steps.

1) Quit smoking if you do, I mean it just stop that shit!
2} Stop drinking alcohol!
3) stop drinking (caffeine) coffee!
4) avoid consuming salt and sugar! And any kind of Junk food.
The top 4 things I mentioned up top are the most stupid and counter productive things you can do when you are about to embark on penis fillers with PMMA or ELLANSÉ or anything that will produce collagen in one way or another to grow you penis size.

a) Nicotine and tar s your body's ability to sustain normal body growth, that means immune system. healthy oxygen levels, collagen production and vitamin retention (vitamin C especially that helps collagen growth a lot)
b) Alcohol is almost the worst thing you can do to your self if you into PE, lowers testosterone, makes you fat, damages you liver and over all diminishes collagen production on a massive level.
c) Caffeine dramatically stalls collagen production. If you like coffee and lots of it you might as well not bother with penis enhancement it is very counter productive. Many people are caffeine addicts, so if you are don't waste your money with any PE you are basically setting your self up to lose.

d} Refined sugar, salt and junk food (pizza, burgers, cakes, tacos, burritos, KFC etc... this list goes on for ever but ultimately = salt, refined sugar, junk food, flour = very bad for penis growth and collagen.


So all I am trying to say is this. Avoid the bad practitioners. Go long term, and look after your body. And you will get results.

The main factor why people don't get good results are that 1) they care less for their body than a dog, 2) they choose bad practitioner that cares only about money and who is generally a scum bag. Or they are just too bloody old and they need a mountain of supplements to see any long term gains.

If you go to a place like Avanti Derma that offer long term PE like PMMA or ELLANSÉ all you need to do is this: For 2 days before your procedure eat nothing just drink water.. you will enter autophagy stage (your body starves and your body literally vacuums anything you put in it. Once you do the procedure
Get your self some quality multivitamins (gel based) with all the vitamins + Q10, get your self some high quality marine based collagen pills + high quality marine based collagen powder to be mixed with a liquid (water or fresh orange juice)
stock up on that pre procedure and use them morning and night. Use them every day 1 week prior procedure and 3 weeks after. And get a good Hanger for stretching for the first 7 days once you get the procedure done so that you keep retraction completely at bay. And basically after you get the procedure done do everything mentioned above make sure you eat these 14 foods every day 3 times a day morning/afternoon and night in any orders you want just consumer them (notie: almonds/yogurt and honey go very well together for breakfast). Eggs, salmon, sardines, yogurt, honey, almonds, avocados, steak, pork chops, broccoli, spinaches, asparagus, mushrooms and chicken.

so eat all that and please for god sake, avoid: Sugar, soft drinks, salt = ( creates inflammation so you can't see your results or massage correctly) Junk food = makes you fat and has lots of sodium which wrecks your gains. And no brains stay the hell away from alcohol and cigarettes.

Avanti Derma always, they gave me the best feel and appreciation as a customer so far. That for me is the absolute must for a beginner in this journey. They respected me and I wil respect them!

I will correct with you regarding Hyaluronic Acid (HA) - it doesn't last just "a few months", it can easily reach 12-18+ months, and occasionally even longer. I also wouldn't call it "crap", far from it - it's got the strongest safety profile of any filler and is arguably the most successful filler on the cosmetic market.

I get your dissatisfaction with Androfill's decision to have patients use HA first, but that's their policy and they are upfront about it. If you don't like it, by all means find a competitor, but sitting here bashing them for what their motives might be provides nothing of substance and becomes purely speculative. Don't take this personally but you aren't entitled to any Clinic making an exception for you just because you want it your way. Even Avanti Derma has policies that they won't make exceptions for (example: not performing work on people who have had prior work done, and limiting amount of cc's injected in one round), and other Clinics have told me that they've turned away clients that appear to have unrealistic expectations or demands. So while I get why you're upset, Androfill hasn't lied to you, taken your money, OR botched a procedure, so I ask we digress on that matter.

Avanti Derma is also a fantastic option and they are one of the few providers of Ellanse that perform Girth injections. Ellanse is NOT available in the U.S. at present time because it has yet to be FDA-cleared (if & when I don't know). Good luck!

Skeptical_one I have been reading this forum for months, and I truly have a lot of respect for you because of it. Everything you have said is true and as always very unbiased and factual. The reason I dislike Androfill is that they flat out do not reply to you once they feel you do not fill their concept of an ideal candidate. It is to my understanding that all doctors are obliged to take a Hippocratic oath. And when someone under the "doctor/ surgeons" whether they are sales men or just marketing facilitators flat out refuse you service because you are a first time customer or applicant to a procedure, to me that is a red flag. I would consider my self a very savvy person when it matters. That savviness is the exact property of my nature that respect you personally by the way. I am well aware that all practitioners can do as their like with their business. But I also have my ability to discern and evaluate based on my perception. That perception has led me to my opinions and understanding of what my best options are. How ever you are extremely insightful and correct in what you have said, so yes I am sorry if I said anything that over zealously picks a side on PE matters. But Humbly I will proceed to inform you incredible forum in the quest to offer value and knowledge on this ever growing quest of male enhancement. You, everyone else here and my self will undoubtably be the source of truth on this beautiful question of what can be. Much love and happy new year to you sir.

bicboyanaconda733 wrote: Skeptical_one I have been reading this forum for months, and I truly have a lot of respect for you because of it. Everything you have said is true and as always very unbiased and factual. The reason I dislike Androfill is that they flat out do not reply to you once they feel you do not fill their concept of an ideal candidate. It is to my understanding that all doctors are obliged to take a hypocritic oath. And when someone under the "doctor/ surgeons" whether they are sales men or just marketing facilitators flat out refuse you service because you are a first time customer or applicant to a procedure, to me that is a red flag. I would consider my self a very savvy person when it matters. That savviness is the exact property of my nature that respect you personally by the way. I am well aware that all practitioners can do as their like with their business. But I also have my ability to discern and evaluate based on my perception. That descension has led me to my opinions and understanding of what my best options are. How ever you are extremely insightful and correct in what you have said, so yes I am sorry if I said anything that over zealously picks a side on PE matters. But Humbly I will proceed to inform you incredible forum in the quest to offer value and knowledge on this ever growing quest of male enhancement. You, everyone else here and my self will undoubtably be the source of truth on this beautiful question of what can me. Much love and happy new year to you sir.

Thanks for the kind words and I hope you know that I was more-or-less trying to focus on your quest with Avanti, hence my comments, and no worries at all.

Mind if I ask what kind of gains or goals you're looking for?

And sorry if I missed it, but have you already scheduled with Avanti? If so, when are you planning to go?

I am in the process of getting a circumsiecion done end of February (2023), After speaking with Ian at Avanti Derma and listening to his advice, I have spoken with my urologist to get a Low and tight procedure. To be exact I asked him for a low as cut as possible (nearest to the glans), but not too tight not too lose to be safe Once I have done that I will immediately contact Avanti derma to schedule my procedure with them. I am going for the signature procedure and I will trust their judgment on how to execute. I am very a trusting once I commit. I believe that showing people that you respect and trust their decision/judgment can go along way in every interaction and result. But I have made it clear due to how far I live from Mexico everything has to be done efficiently in 2 visits for me to be satisfied. Also I have no intention of being unreasonable with them. They offered 1/2 an inch to 0.75. That seems very reasonable to me, and that was in 1 session only, as I said I will go for 2 sessions to make sure it all done properly.

Once I have done my circumsiecion lets say end of February or beginning of March . Ian said a minimum of 3 months recovery is necessary. So I would said June or July I will be going to Tijuana Mexico for the signature procedure. I am starting from a modest 4.5 inches Flaccid length, 4.4 inches Flaccid Girth. 7.1 inches Erect length, 5.1 Erect Girth. So if I manage 0,5 - 0.75 Erect Girth I will be very happy. But if I don't there is always round 2. Although I am confident with my age, strict diet and multiple vitamins and collagen supplement strategy I will do well. I wont do anything to sabotage my gain potential.

bicboyanaconda733 wrote: Once I have done my circumsiecion lets say end of February or beginning of March . Ian said a minimum of 3 months recovery is necessary. So I would said June or July I will be going to Tijuana Mexico for the signature procedure. I am starting from a modest 4.5 inches Flaccid length, 4.4 inches Flaccid Girth. 7.1 inches Erect length, 5.1 Erect Girth. So if I manage 0,5 - 0.75 Erect Girth I will be very happy. But if I don't there is always round 2. Although I am confident with my age, strict diet and multiple vitamins and collagen supplement strategy I will do well. I wont do anything to sabotage my gain potential.

You have a very good starting size, and yes even with a 0.5-0.75" gain you'd be certifiably huge. My recommendation is to stick to the goal (0.5-0.75) you know makes you happy, try not to become tempted or addicted to any additional size -- that's how you end up risking future complication and/or aesthetic issues.

Keep us posted on how your adult Circumcision goes, I know many men are interested in considering it as well. Good luck.

Yes definitely, reasonable expectations will make everyone more comfortable equaling a better result. I like the analogy of the little kid that ask the ice cream truck guy for a little bit more and then couldn't balance it and dropped the whole thing on the floor I already please my lady quite well. But since going to the beach is one of my favorite things, never having to look down again exiting the cold water is going to be fantastic. Plus all the ladies and men probably checking out the package! It's going to be riot on my beach going days I'll be coming home with a bruised eye from my wife every time LoL! Can't wait !!!!