TOPIC: New Member - Length advice and timing of PE/PMMA

Hey guys -- I\'ve been lurking on this forum for a few months and have found it really helpful, thanks so much for all of the time you all have put into providing such a great resource. I'm a new yorker, 33, 6'1', and my BPEL is 5.6'; EG 5.4\". My Flaccid length is highly variable but if I had to take measurement at a 'normal' time it would be around 3.5\". I get laid quite a lot and am athletic, often in situations where I have to get naked. So there are a lot of times I\'m self conscious about my Dick, especially because with shrinkage it gets really small. I want it to be bigger. The priority is Flaccid and Erect length, ideally so that it hangs down nicely below my Balls rather than just sticks out, but if adding Girth helps with the overall appearance of my unit then that would be fine too. I have a few questions. I have researched these all pretty extensively on the forum already and I know there is some material about each of these issues out there, but I haven\'t found much and it would be great to get the latest. 1. It looks like the best options that most people on here are going for are PMMA (e.g. Dr C) or temporary filler from someone like Morganstern. Will these approaches make my Dick look better when it\'s soft and help prevent shrinkage? Is Morganstern\'s length increasing procedure legit? 2. Tried PE a few times in the past but haven\'t devoted enough time to it. I\'m willing to give it a try again. I have a x4labs extender which I can use and I was thinking of picking up an ESL40 to use as much as I can, does that sound like the best regimen for me? 3. Is it better to do PE/stretching before I go for a procedure, or can I get the Girth enhancement first and then focus on it? 4. Is there anything else that I should be thinking about or that you'd recommend in my particular case? Thanks =)

Start a good stretching then Hanging routine. It will help tremendously with Flaccid hang. I was in your same boat many years ago before I began PE.
Regards
LL

alphnyb wrote: Hey guys -- I\'ve been lurking on this forum for a few months and have found it really helpful, thanks so much for all of the time you all have put into providing such a great resource. I'm a new yorker, 33, 6'1', and my BPEL is 5.6'; EG 5.4\". My Flaccid length is highly variable but if I had to take measurement at a 'normal' time it would be around 3.5\". I get laid quite a lot and am athletic, often in situations where I have to get naked. So there are a lot of times I\'m self conscious about my Dick, especially because with shrinkage it gets really small. I want it to be bigger. The priority is Flaccid and Erect length, ideally so that it hangs down nicely below my Balls rather than just sticks out, but if adding Girth helps with the overall appearance of my unit then that would be fine too. I have a few questions. I have researched these all pretty extensively on the forum already and I know there is some material about each of these issues out there, but I haven\'t found much and it would be great to get the latest. 1. It looks like the best options that most people on here are going for are PMMA (e.g. Dr C) or temporary filler from someone like Morganstern. Will these approaches make my Dick look better when it\'s soft and help prevent shrinkage? Is Morganstern\'s length increasing procedure legit? 2. Tried PE a few times in the past but haven\'t devoted enough time to it. I\'m willing to give it a try again. I have a x4labs extender which I can use and I was thinking of picking up an ESL40 to use as much as I can, does that sound like the best regimen for me? 3. Is it better to do PE/stretching before I go for a procedure, or can I get the Girth enhancement first and then focus on it? 4. Is there anything else that I should be thinking about or that you'd recommend in my particular case? Thanks =)

alphnyb wrote: Hey guys -- I I have a x4labs extender which I can use and I was thinking of picking up an ESL40 to use as much as I can, does that sound like the best regimen for me? 3. Is it better to do PE/stretching before I go for a procedure, or can I get the Girth enhancement first and then focus on it? 4. Is there anything else that I should be thinking about or that you'd recommend in my particular case? Thanks =)

Why do want to buy the ESL40? It's an inferior piece of equipment. If you already own a X4Labs then you are set with a good stretching device. The key is to use it consistently. It requires a lot of hours every day to create gains and cement them. If you have some disposable income, the perfect set up would be buy a Hanger that you can add weights to it will stretch you out, then follow up with your X4Labs which will maintain the stretched length for most of the day and in the evening use a Bathmate To fill out your stretched length. Sounds good right? Well it's a lot work.

If you want to avoid shrinkage and have a nice Flaccid hang for the locker room I suggest the phallotox option (Botox injected along the shaft to keep everything Hanging loose and relaxed) with a session of PMMA. A big reason I want to get PMMA with phallotox and scrotox is that I want to be a shower and not a Grower as I often have to take communal showers with other construction workers when we leave industrial sites to decontaminate. Other members have said phallotox eliminates Turtling and retraction.

Thanks, guys. @eddieb - I\'ll look into getting a Hanger and pump to improve my PE routine. @Jason Ryley - phallotox sounds like a promising addition for Flaccid hang.

I guess the biggest thing I\'m still uncertain about is timing of getting any procedure (PMMA/filler plus whatever else gets done along with it, like the phallotox).

Do you guys thing there\'s an advantage to spending a year or so doing as much stretching, Hanging, etc. as I can before a procedure or can I still get those gains post-procedure? Or does having that filler in there complicate the PE?

Many have gotten PMMA and continued to stretch, pump, and hang to try to gain more length. The only concern is that you must not use too much weight, traction, or suction for fear of damaging the PMMA and the collagen grown around it. I suggest you look at bolkonskys master lock all day Hanging thread since the weight is placed on the head of the penis to pull the penis down instead of the PMMA on the shaft.

Jason Ryley wrote: Many have gotten PMMA and continued to stretch, pump, and hang to try to gain more length. The only concern is that you must not use too much weight, traction, or suction for fear of damaging the PMMA and the collagen grown around it. I suggest you look at bolkonskys master lock all day Hanging thread since the weight is placed on the head of the penis to pull the penis down instead of the PMMA on the shaft.

It doesn't seem to hurt the PMMA based on the experience of many members on this forum. I would be careful with any device that would squeeze the PMMA before it is done setting. Vacuum devices are safer but once your PMMA has set i think your fine with non vacuum devices..

Good advice. I think the key to all PE is moderation and realistic expectations.

Thanks. Good to know re PE after PMMA.

I have a pretty relaxed work schedule the next 6 months, so my tentative plan is to focus on consistent Hanging, stretching and pumping during that time to see if I can get any length gains. Going to order a LG Hanger and Bathmate today.

After that, I\'ll go for the PMMA, see how it goes, and continue the PE if I still feel like I need more length.

Good luck alphnyb. Document your gains and track how many hours you stretch.

alphnyb wrote: Thanks, guys. @eddieb - I\'ll look into getting a Hanger and pump to improve my PE routine. @Jason Ryley - phallotox sounds like a promising addition for Flaccid hang.

I guess the biggest thing I\'m still uncertain about is timing of getting any procedure (PMMA/filler plus whatever else gets done along with it, like the phallotox).

Do you guys thing there\'s an advantage to spending a year or so doing as much stretching, Hanging, etc. as I can before a procedure or can I still get those gains post-procedure? Or does having that filler in there complicate the PE?

I think there is an absolute advantage to beginning a stretching routine before a procedure. In the case of Flaccid length you would have less retraction/ Turtling. Secondly what happens after consistent PE are the tissues become more elastic and can more easily be stretched out. This would be very valuable if you had a filler injected and we\'re using a stretcher during the molding phase. Lastly in the case of pumping, the secondary advantage to it temporarily increasing your Girth is it stretches the skin. This would be important for your procedure so that the penis/skin can adequately handle the amounts of filler you request. FYI I\'ve used the X4 for years and it\'s held up very well.


Regards
LL

Thanks, LatinLog, that gives me some more to think about.

If it\'s the case that there are benefits to doing PE before getting PMMA, I may want to push out the timing a bit, like give myself at least 12 months rather than 6 months of PE so that I can (hopefully) start to see some real results.

I guess I\'ll see if I\'m getting any results and take it from there. Even if the PE only gives me half an Inch, and I can then get filer to help further with the Flaccid hang, I\'d be really happy.

Hey - Im in very similar situations with you. Im a 36 yr old New yorker and already did one round of PMMA with DR C exactly a year go with mixed results. I have been doing a lot of research and my plan for new year is order the LG Hanger perhaps with the extender and then see where I am in 6 months time about round 2 with Dr C. If you want to message me directly - would be good to have support system. Perhaps even go down to Mexico together when we are ready.
Cheers,
H-

Cool will do

Phallotox with my PMMA was a great idea. It helped with the shrinkage that happens after the injections. Also lasts quite a bit longer. I'm not upset with my Flaccid hang and how it all turned out. I might need to post new pics.