TOPIC: Help Smalljay fix his dick (PMMA length loss)

SJ, I\'m no scientist, but I would think that what expands is the inter-acrylic matrix of collagen when Erection begins. I believe the plastic beads are solid, so they most likely are not expanding. The nodules are a mix of plastic and tissue, so they may change shape somewhat and expand, but probably not much.

I dated a masseuse once and she rolfed me almost to death one night. I was sore for three days! But I started thinking about your dilemma here, and I want to ask you, have you ever thought of having someone numb you up with a lidocaine injection, and then rolf (very deep tissue massage, break up knots) the hell out of that area? You can pay an MD to just numb you up, or you can ask a friend who has access to this, or you may want to do it yourself. I would advise getting topical anesthesia and putting it on the skin for about 15 minutes before getting the injection.

Other than that, it looks like you may have to go the surgery route. As a last resort if there\'s no other recourse but surgery, if you won\'t really mind this, you can tattoo the glans areas and accept the nodules as some of those punk guys do with bead implants et cetera. That would be the reason for tghose that I would tell a gal if I had no other choice. Of course, you\'d have to live with it forever, so it would be a deep thought.

Oh, about the 30% PMMA at your base, I agree that it\'s noticeable visually, and I believe it\'s rock hard as you described. If you decide on surgery, why not try it with a VY or horizontal cut like they do for Caesarians? Do the lig cut while your at it! I know you feel reticent about all this, but when handed lemons, make lemonade.

Good luck in whatever you decide. To be honest, it doesn\'t look sooo bad, but I feel \'ya.

Contact Dr. Gary Alter and do a phone consult with him, which is relatively inexpensive. Let us know what he says. I\'ve been through a number of reconstructive surgeries at this point, and I can only say that if you want to fix this - you have to go to someone extremely experienced with the penis and reconstruction. This is not for a Dermatologist or general Urologist. Even a male sexual function specialist will have no experience with PMMA - which is why my surgery was booked for 1 hour...bc he didn\'t know wtf he was going to get into in there. It took 45 min. By contrast - My peyronie\'s fix took 90 min (but that was with one of the best surgeons in the country who has done 1000 of them - so he gets patients in and out pretty fast). He was the same one who fixed my PMMA mess from the Dermatologist who botched it. But, this was a first for him. This is not simple stuff once it goes wrong.

If your PMMA is truly clinging to the fascia, then skin will have to come out. I mentioned this a while ago when you asked... the best scenario is that they can dissect it out and not cut the skin with it. To get that circ ring out (if it is embedded in the skin too)...you\'d lose way too much skin. So IMO you\'d have to be degloved - if that is even possible to do now...best thing you could do woudl be to ask Dr. Alter with a phone consult.

Oh and by the way - losing skin is a huge cost... so far, I can\'t say that it has stretched back that much in 3-4 mos. I\'ve been using the ADS, but that is making the scars spread wider... those are the weakest points on the shaft, not the normal skin. So, that will stretch first. Cutting out skin to get rid of nodules can be like trading 1 problem for another.

Does anyone know how DMSO works? It\'s a solvent - but I can\'t imagine it can do much to break this much stuff up. There\'s way too much mass here to be affected (significantly) by anything topical. DMSO helped dissolve the last of one of my buried stitches that was hurting like hell and annoying the crap out of me... but I don\'t think it can do much here.

On second thought, what he said ^

AstroD wrote: you can tattoo the glans

Um... ouch.

The higher up on your pubic bone that you measure, the shorter your penis will be. The closer to the actual penis you get the longer it will measure. I\'m pretty sure any of our members could confirm that. Looking at your mound, surely it means you have to place the ruler about 3/4\" of an Inch higher than before you have PMMA. If I measure right next to my penis it\'s 1/2 cm longer than if a measure with the ruler 3/4\" of an Inch back.

If you look at the photo, surely pre PMMA, the ruler would have sat level with point \"A\". After PMMA, due to the mound, the ruler will sit level with point \"B\". I\'ve drawn a green line to try are show the slight gradient. It\'s hard to see, but everyone has that gradient. The pubic bone is slightly tilted, so the closer the base of the rule is to the base of the penis, the longer it will measure.


Basically, what I\'m saying is that it just doesn\'t look like you\'ve lost any length, but that the mound is forcing you to place the ruler further away from the root of the penis, thus leaving you about 1/4\" shorter.

I\'m going to guess you wont accept that, but ask other members what they think. Even ask if they\'d take measurements themselves at two different points and see if they notice a difference. As i said, I just did and lost 1/2\" cm on the point \"B\" measurement.

Well, it\'s basically like he gained 50 lbs. All the penis is still there, but it\'s being dwarfed now. Or in this case, it sounds like it is being held back or something. Likewise, I \"lost length\" from losing skin - but my erectile bodies haven\'t changed. If the skin comes back, I\'d gain length, but the amount of time for that is fairly unknown. If the Foreskin restoration guys are to be believed, it\'s 2 years of constant \"tugging\".

Astro - I had rolfing done many years ago - nothing external will break this stuff up. It\'s like chewed up gum stuck inside of your penis. Dr. N somehow was able to break it up through 2 highly aggressive sessions with another poster...using cannulas, I guess - but the blunt tip doesn\'t pass easily through this. Collagenase would probably break it up, but nobody would use it on you off label - and it could cause serious blistering.

Sorry you are going through all this - especially the part about waiting 2 years for something - and then having it go wrong. Just my 2 cents, they are supposed to be the experts. If wearing a sleeve can do that, they never should have let you go home with one. I would not beat yourself up so much. It makes sense that you would think a sleeve would give you smoother results. I probably would have asked for one too, it should be on them to know more than you, and foresee at least part of your problem. You can\'t be the first person to have PMMA ride up from a sleeve.

I would send this link to whatever doctor you talk to as it is really clear. I had a whole lot of tissue taken out of 2 very little scars - one one each end of my Dick, the base and the glans area. Next month will be a year, one scar is almost invisible and the other is only a thin line paler than the rest of me, it looks like a birth mark. The mass I had was at least as big as your mound, maybe bigger, but located at the center-top of my shaft. It had nerves and blood vessels attached. I thought I was going to be deformed for life, and have all sorts of nerve damage and scarring. I didn\'t have any of that. My graft was rock hard and looked like a hump on my Dick. I look really good now, completely normal. That is after being in me for almost 20 years. You may not have the graft attached to your skin yet - I don\'t know know my way around PMMA though.

Like Restoration said, talk to a doctor and bring in professional advice, you will feel better if you have options. Email your info to Alter or another doctor and start a conversation with them.

PS while I was lying on the surgery table, length I had lost all came back the second the graft came out. My Dick which would curl up when I was Erect, straightened out too - overnight. That said, I completely get the being in a dark place over this. I was too. I had the graft in me for 3 years after it had gone south as I didn\'t have the money anymore to get it out. It was always on my mind. Start collecting info and make a plan you will be happier if you are living in the solution to your problem. And don\'t beat yourself up. You wanted something more, took a risk that other people have taken before you - not so crazy, and you can fix it.

It\'s actually more like losing skin than gaining weight. If you don\'t have enough skin on the shaft of your penis, it causes a teathering at the base. A porn star named Chris Strokes is a very obvious example of this. In the photo below you can see how the skin at the base is pulled away from the pubic bone. At point \"B\" we see where his penis really begins. But if we were to measure from the middle of the base, where the skin is pulled away, it would be point \"A\". This causes an obvious 1/4\" or more apparent length loss.



It really perfectly illustrates why i think Smallyjay is measuring slightly less. The way Chris Strokes skin is pulled away from the pubic bone creates the exact same problem that Smalljay has with the mound. The difference is, because it\'s just skin it\'s much easier to see on Chris Strokes.

That\'s an odd looking penis there..at the base. I wonder if he had aggressive lipo or some other kind of surgery. (oh never mind the lipo - he\'s skinny as hell)

Yeah, I guess you are right - the skin is all tethered down now.

But don\'t give up. Hope tends to keep one going, even if it seems futile.

I\'m still hoping to find that one perfect girl who has eluded me all these years. Will it happen? Probably not, but yet I hope, and that\'s what keeps me doing what I do.

So there is hope for your problem, and perhaps the fix hasn\'t even been discovered yet until the next couple of years. Technology goes fast exponentially.

Anyone know of any medicine or way to reduce night time erections?

Ketoconazole can stop erections at night.

www.nature.com/ijir/journal/v16/n4/abs/3901160a.html

I didn\'t read the rest of your post yet, btw

Hang in there, man. I\'m right there with you on this.I\'m glad Dr. Kim was able to impart some information, even if it wasn\'t the best news.

Just do another round and add as much size as you can.

Then do a touch up round. It won\'t help with the craters though. Is that from LipinD?

Sorry what you\'ve ben through smalljay. I\'m losing hope that mine will ever get right as well. My touch up with Dr C. is looking like a failure. I have a huge new area that is hard and can be felt very easily when Erect. It\'s like one problem is fixed and another shows up.. I think Dr. Cho does the shaft procedure pretty well. And I saw way more gains with the Lipen product. I had 11cc with Dr. C\'s metacril and I have no growth at all at the base where I wanted it. Lipen is $550 for 3.2cc.. so it makes me think that the PMMA is much higher quality than metacril which is way cheaper since people get mass quantities in there muscles that make it like $20 a cc. Anyways I do agree that the glans are very hard to increase. I too will be meeting with Dr. Kim to discuss HA there. And I will see Dr. Cho again in 6 months t work on the shaft with Lipen.

Hey buddy

Sounds like the nightmare I was going through a few years ago (kinda)

I ended up saying screw it and got degloved and PMMA removed... and it worked fine... it took about a year, but my penis is back to where it was plus more.

PM me if you want the name of my Urologist ... however most good urologists can do it if you decide that route.

The one thing I can tell you (again from experience) is to calm down in the head... you\'ll be fine. Just make sure you breath and if you have pain, take advil, lots of it.

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