TOPIC: so, this is my tentative plan of action

I couldn\'t tell you any starting measurements, but I\'m probably where most of you started.. 6 ish.. EL not even the slightest clue fg or eg..

But I want (need, psychologically) bigger.

I think a bigger unit along with my world class oral skills would make me quite memorable!

So, around June I am thinking about doing laser surgery w doctor Guinta. Stretching for several months then possible in Jan or Feb making the trip to TJ to see doctor C for some PMMA.

feel free to make suggestions to this, but from about 2 months of reading this website non stop, this was the best POA that I could think of.

Of course, I\'ll get some pre and post pics up and will get measurements as well.. and will keep everything updated weekly so that new members like I started off can utilize my experience for their benefit.

Do yourself a favour and take accurate starting measurements. Trust me. You\'ll regret it later if you don\'t. I assume by laser treatment you mean a pig cut, apologies if this is wrong I haven\'t looked at length procedures at all. It seems to me though that having a lig cut is pretty invasive and expensive for the potential upsides. Might just a course of manual pe be worth a shot.

I\'ve done manual PE with no gains.. yes I mean a ligament cut.. it seems most people that have had gains had gains after doing stretching and Hanging after the lig cut.

I have the same issue.

I am Hanging and stretching for about 2 years with no gains.

So I decided to take the lig cut surgery, eventhough I know that it\'s mostly help in Flaccid state.

Many years and hours of stretching/Hanging with various devices does not help me. I hope to achieve some gains from this procedure.

Who are you looking at getting it done with?

if u get it done I hope u get it done with a reputable surgeon if I would get my lig cut again I would go for dr Rosenthal.

As I remember, you took the surgery with doctor Camacho and had a nice gains (after your retraction which is normal). So why to cut them again?

I am concidering 2 doctors one of them is from my country. When I decide I\'ll let you know.

I think what DC means is if he hadn\'t had his ligs cut he would go with Rosenthal.
If ur not getting any gains from manual pe , u wont get any after the lig cut, other than some Flaccid.
I had it done, and the gains Im getting is about the same as before the lig cut.
I would really look at your routine and diagnose what is wrong, after all that time you should have at least gotten newbie gains

Lig cut can cause shortening. Most of the gains you\'ll get are probably from the Hanging/stretching regimen that is required as after care.