TOPIC: Penis Surgery

Penis Surgery My Penis Surgery Experience Phalloplasty
DANGEROUS TO BE DONE IN GERMANY!!!
I am going to share my phalloplasty surgery (penis surgery) experience and give my honest assessment.
Before surgery my flaccid length was about 4 centimeters depending on my mood, temperature, activity, stress or whatever.
Erect I was about 10 centimeters long.
Using the pump i got even up to 15 centimeters but as soon got the penis out of the pump it went to 12 centimeteres, the next day was back to 10 when erected

After YEARS of research and serious thought I decided to have the surgery. It\'s interesting to note not many doctors knew what to advice on this matter. My main problem attached to this was erection and not just a size matter.
I was recommended to take the operation in a serious country since there are many 'interesting' places where things might be done with no guaranty.
So, I found the website from This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. in Germany which looks quite serious.
After some enquiries I decided to have the operation done there.
Dr.med. Aref El-Seweifi
Facharzt f'r Urologie
www.masculine.de/
Praxis f'r Urologie
Dr. med. Aref El-Seweifi
Forum Zehlendorf
Teltower Dam 35
D-14169 Berlin
Deutschland
Tel.: +49 30 804 90 950Fax: +49 30 804 90 951
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I contacted Dr.med. Aref El-Seweifi, who is originally from Egypt and asked me to come over to his office for an exam and discussion, Dr.med. Aref El-Seweifi is someone that doesn't really listen what you saying but rather gives the impression that he has his own ideas and plans.
When you ask a question to him you normally end up answering it yourself and at the end seem that it was his answer, but always leaves you with a question mark.
Anyway, I went for it and got a date for the operation.
The cost of the operation seemed to me that was given more looking at my face than based on a rate.
The cost of the operation was over 5.000 Euros plus another 1.000 Euros for the anesthesia. Obviously there were even some more cost not originally in my equation.
The doggy and strange thing is that there are no invoices or bills for anything. All goes in black thou it is Germany!!!
Of course that didn't give me a good feeling at all!
THE SURGERY:
The day I showed up at the operation place (a private clink in Berlin, actually just a small section of a building), very different place than his office, it was very difficult to find out exactly where the operation was suppose to take place. No clear indications giving me a bad feeling about how serious the whole thing is.
Privatklinik Schlosstrasse 40 (a room at the right hand, somewhere in the top floor)
Anyway, finally I was in the right place. All very private and definitely no other patient than me there'at one point in time I felt like running away from there as it gives the impression that it is all set up just for me.
The anesthesia cost I had to pay separately to a nurse, at that clink (anesthetic nurse) this just a bit before the operation.
Before the operation I had one minute meeting with the doctor who gave me the impression that he was just too busy to listen and wanted to get it done. He just said that he had too much work and is very busy doing operations. So, I didn't know if that was good or not, but definitely I wanted to know more about what was going to take place in the operation. As usual, (I got to the conclusion) that he normally does not give answers so that he is free of being responsible of his words.
After a whole day waiting finally I got to the operation table, and injection... They put some music in my ears and got asleep immediately.
NEXT MORNING:
For my surprise the operation went very different than I was told and we agreed.
The main thing we agreed was:
1. Penis lengthening. The suspensatory ligament attaching the penis from the inside of the pelvis will be detached so to gain the penis lengthening.
2. Penis thickening. The operation is started with the patient being laid on his back. Cut from the rear (where the bottom fleshy part is) straps which are prepared corresponding to the length of the erect penis. These strips are then inserted under the skin of the penis during the same operation of penis lengthening procedure.When the operation was over, and he came to see me (of course many hours later) the doctor could not even explain exactly what took place. Again I had to end up giving the answer' so; I ended up wondering what actually took place.
Definitely by his answer, the ligament was never cut! He forgot or was not in his agenda!
I was never told that the scar on my bad will be so large that I will regret for life! Not telling you how painful it was !!! and for many months!!!
There is no way to fix that!
The penis thickening left the penis in such a condition that was unrecognizable what was actually there. It was a gigantic ball of flesh and blood and was rather looking like an accident.
Technically the penis was suppose to be pulled out so on the healing process the penis will not retrocede, but the doctor never thought of how to hold a penis in that condition out. So, it was definitely a mess.
With lots of pain I tried as much as possible to hold the penis out with gauzes and bandages (as I was instructed) but they were many days of horrible pain. I was for 2 weeks not being able to do anything! I had to be looked after; I was not even able to walk properly.
Of course after keeping this 'recommended' form of bandages so that the penis stays out (I hardly could pee) then it became a massive internal infection mainly due to the bad blood circulation.FROM BAD TO WORSE:
I was already under the strongest antibiotics and I had to be sent urgently to the hospital for surgery. They nearly ended up cutting the whole penis.
The urologist at that hospital. One of the best urologists in Germany told me that this operation done by Dr.med. Aref El-Seweifi was a 'pig's job' , literally is what he said!
He said that I was just abused and that this was not a serious business.
He admitted that at the end of the day patients in Germany are often robed because the doctors fail to tell to patients not to go this route with private clinics.
In Germany this is a big business and many doggy doctors and clinics are there because there is a big demand of it. But very little is done to prevent patients and warn them of the dangerous places and outcomes.
I could not go to the same doctor for the urgent operation and so that he takes responsibility.
Since there is no prove of payments or even a bank account of anything. My whole operation was done in 'black' ass they call it in Germany; there is no way to get any guaranty on such operation. I was told that this is they way the mafia operates in Germany and there is not easy way to get them.
So, now after many months of recovering from the second operation, my penis looks like a project. An immense scar across the penis. Unfortunately the infection underneath was so bad that they had to remove a lot of tissue and now it became a massive scar, creating a hard scar which holds the penis from having the elastic performance.
The fat (the straps) taken from my bad (bottom) were not properly attached (if at all) to the front of the shaft, so the straps moved freely inside till they slipped back, and now all went straight back to the base of the penis, creating a big ball of fat sitting on the top base of the penis. This fat is now holding the penis to erect towards outside and in erections the penis forces itself to go inwards (very painful)
Now, to correct this I would need another operation with a cost of 4.000 Euros which can not be covered by any insurance!
These all, of course is not counting the cost of days not going to work, the amount of medicine I have to buy from my own, and many other costs that comes with it. Plus the many weeks of agony'again !!!
After many talks and investigation, it was recommended that we should be carful with the performance of this doctor.
There had been people that contacted me from Stuttgart and other places with similar comments. The main problem in Germany is that people are afraid to talk about their experience, what gives room for bad surgeons to do their business.
Below the details of the dangerous doctor.
Dr.med. Aref El-Seweifi
Facharzt f'r Urologie
www.masculine.de/
Praxis f'r Urologie
Dr. med. Aref El-Seweifi
Forum Zehlendorf
Teltower Dam 35
D-14169 Berlin
Deutschland
Tel.: +49 30 804 90 950Fax: +49 30 804 90 951
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. you are serious in getting and operation, I could recommend you German doctors that had been working in normal hospitals for year.
One of the doctors is a professor who conducted the first 'sexual transgender' operation in Germany (therefore have an understanding in the sexual area)
After going a long way around I finally ended up meeting him due to my server condition.
Now, I'm trying to get some money to get this new (3rd) operation done to correct the mess initiated in Berlin.

That is an awful story - I hope things start to work out for you. I don\'t even know what to say about your experience, but thanks for sharing it. I had the same procedures done years ago. I did not have any immediate complications, I was surprised at the scar size too, however. I found that after several years the graft hardened and from what I can tell this is common. I would be curious to know what the long term results were for anybody who had this done. Thanks again though - maybe you stopped somebody for having the same thing happen with this guy.

Hi hunkydory,

Where did you get done your operation?
So, are you happy with the outcome or do you rather would have not done it?

I\'m strugeling to know what is the right thing to do now. I am even considering if i should do it in another country.

Thanks,

Hi feedbackprof,I had it done by Dr. Reed in FL- I don\'t think he offers it anymore (the dermal fat graft I mean. He uses Alloderm or Belladerm). I would definitely have done it again. Even though after a decade the graft became fibrotic, I spent most of my adulthood with a very large penis and it is as much of my identity as having a small one was, if that makes sense. My Girth went from under 5\" to 7\" Erect (6\" Flaccid). It still is very large and has remained at 7\" at its widest part - the taper has just changed for the worse at each end; and when it is Flaccid you can feel the graft as it is tougher than the surrounding tissue.
I have talked to Dr. C and they assured me that if I wanted to go the PMMA route they could fix the taper as well as the toughness of the graft so I am leaning toward that. My other options are to remove it; remove it and do something else or keep it as is.
I also am aware that I was very lucky. I had no infections, no loss of length and no major complications for a decade. I never recommend PE surgery to anyone as there are so many bad stories Even though mine is not a success story exactly, and I am basically happy with it 15 years later, I would hate to be part of someone else\'s disaster story.
I will post a pic in the next day so you can see what I am talking about even if you can\'t feel what I am talking about.
I don\'t know that much about the field to know who is good for a recommendation but I am sure that information is out there. I hope this information helps - I just got back from the gym and I need lunch. Best, H

Thanks hunkydory for the reply.

I\'m so glad for you that you are happy with the result (definetelly happy to know there are some good cases) as i was wondering if there is any one with a good expirience.
Of course i picture will help. Ofthen i though that i failed to ask the doctor for other operations pics to see what i could expect. Of course with my situation would have been a disapointment anyways \"if\" the doctor would have been thrusthworthy and things would just go wrong by nature.

Thanks for taking the time.

Blessings
feedbackprof

Hey prof.,here are 2 pictures that show what fibrotic dermal fat grafts look like. (Sorry for the line in one, it is the computer acting up). From the front view it looks kind of normal, the side view shows the bump in the middle.
The whole penis used to be as thick as the thickest part in the middle. When a graft goes fibrotic it pulls away from the base and the glands, shrinking and toughening. The graft which used to be very pliable and soft, is more like the consistency of steak (cooked steak- not hard, but not soft, just sort of tough). I am told that it is from lack of sufficient blood supply. Why the blood supply to it changed after 10 years I do not know. But this is very common from my research on the internet.
Dr. Reed said he could remove it for $2,000 but \"there is always the chance of nerve damage\". I talked to Dr. C\'s office and they said that they could add PMMA to the glands and the base area and smooth out the transitions - and soften it at the same time. I am not sure if this is making a bad situation worse - or a reasonable solution. I am still debating this one in my head. I actually don\'t want it any thicker than what it is now - I would rather just have the graft shaved so my penis was more cylindrical but that is not an option with an unhealthy graft.
Lastly, the reason my penis is on the longish side is that I had the lengthening surgery at the same time as the graft surgery. I hung weights for almost the first two years. It greatly increased the Flaccid length and the Erect length less dramatically.
I hope this helps. Best H.

Hi hunkydory,

Thanks for the message. I would like to see the pictures but for some reason i can not open them. Is there something that i should do beside to be signed in?

I think you need to join the site - as in being a paid member to see pics. Some place on the homepage there is a link.

@Hunkydory - how much Erect length did you gain from the lengthening surgery? It sounds like most people get something with post-op Hanging. I\'d be happy with 0.5\" - does that sound realistic?

With the lengthening surgery and stretching combined I got an 1\". I think from just the operation no stretching I only got 1/4\" or so. Maybe it was closer to 1/2\" - it wasn\'t that much but the Flaccid was much bigger and with the fat graft done at the same time my Dick looked entirely different. So yes I\'d say 1/2\" is totally reasonable. But if that is what you are aiming for I\'d say skip the surgery all together and get a stretching device and see if you can get it like that and save the money and chance of complications. I am sure you could get 1/2\" from Hanging...I use(d) a Grip, and it works great.

@hunkydory - thanks for the info. i stretched for 3 months about 2 years ago and i did get some Flaccid gain, but i couldn\'t keep up with the regimen (mostly because it was so awkward at work).

What kind of routine did you follow after the surgery? From what I\'ve heard, doctors normally suggest like an hour of Hanging (vs 8 hrs of stretching) per day. Is this what your doctor suggested?

Hi ttar2380,I think 3 months is the absolute minimum to get anything - it is a slow process.
When I had the surgery Dr. Reed was doing both at the same time - Girth and length. I was told 6-8 hours a day was necessary without a lot of specification about weight. What I found is that a constant pull that is on the med.-mild side worked for me but I tried everything so I can\'t really isolate one technique from the other. I also did very short times with a heavy hang.
I used the grip/ still do from time to time - but modified it a bit. I wrap the glans in self adhering sports tape - like an ace bandage, as advertised. I put one of those sheaths over my penis that the Grip people sell. It\'s like a condom but 100 x\'s thicker (go on the small side so it is a little tight).I use the Grip the way it is advertised but without much vacuum - mostly to keep circulation from getting cut. The latex on the Grip hugs the latex on the sheath and I find that this allows for almost vac. free Hanging. Also I don\'t use weights - I use a stretchable bungee cord with hooks on either end. I stick one in the eyelet of my shoe and the other to the end of the vac. Hanger.
You can get a pretty intense hang this way and wear pants. You can even lie down and read and there is still stretch this way. I have fallen asleep with this on more than one - if there is no/not much vacuum I found my circulation was fine.
Since it is a slow process not a long one I found that I needed to resist checking for progress all the time. It happened for me in fits and for me at least, it took a long time.
I hope this helps!

@feedbackprof - Sorry to hear about your situation. Thank you for sharing. Best of luck. You have our full support.

@hunkydory - great info, just a few questions.
Did you hang or stretch any prior to surgery? If so, for how long and did you gain any flacid or Erect length?
Did your Erection angle change at all post op?
thx

gamecock wrote: @feedbackprof - Sorry to hear about your situation. Thank you for sharing. Best of luck. You have our full support.

@hunkydory - great info, just a few questions.
Did you hang or stretch any prior to surgery? If so, for how long and did you gain any flacid or Erect length?
Did your Erection angle change at all post op?
thx

This thread is veering off topic. I ask that members private message each other for non-thread related questions.
Let\'s please resume the original topic matter, thanks.

I thought the same thing, but it seems like feebackprof is enjoying the company and distraction while he fights through his ordeal and while he has our full support, this thread will go quiet if nothing else is discussed.Overall, I get the point from an admin POV. Hunkydory, my PM is above if you don\'t mind.