TOPIC: PMMA Sex Stats

Hey Lakingsfan, your story is very similar to mine except my drug of choice was heroin. I have been off everything, alcohol too, for over 27 years. However, I had most of my sex when I was sober and so I enjoyed it a lot - sometimes, sometimes not; although I completely get the depressing drug and sex culture that exists - especially in cities where it is really easy to get completely lost. Most men don\'t feel disrespected if it is just about quick sex and that\'s all there is to it.

Restoration I didn\'t really feel a slow down in my sex life until my early forties but I find that as I age I slowly disappear sexually in terms of other people. I am OK with that now but it was a transition. I also refuse to be a troll hitting on guys when they are a lot of other ways I can relate to people than with my Dick. - The upside to this website it can make you feel not alone, be supportive and supply lots of information. The downside is that it keeps me focused on my Dick as a project which is probably not healthy.

Your Dick looks totally normal and healthy now - there maybe bumps you can feel that don\'t translate online - but I would not look at your Dick and think there was anything wrong with it. By the way, I am not sure if I am comfortable with my Dick or not. It looks completely normal now. What it doesn\'t look like is the Dick I had - and I am still trying to figure myself out sexually with a normal sized Dick. It was so big before, the size was a part of all my sexual encounters which I definitely got off on - a luxury problem.

Happy New Year to everyone. I have a plane to catch - I am going skiing in the Alps for a week!

It\'s weird only having one woman for so long (20 plus years) after having 250 to 300 hundred women in one decade .......
In a way I miss the variety but not in a way.. it\'s rather odd

@Restoration the normal pre-PMMA etc. was around 20-30 partners per year.

The 11 months between Rounds 2 & 3 you had 63 partners.

The 9+ months or so since Round 3, given all you\'ve gone through, 13 isn\'t too bad man! When you add in the 3 more months you\'ll probably be within range of your average. Definitely not too bad considering. Things could be a lot worse.

I know you\'ve had a tough time, and granted it\'d be extremely hard to go through what you\'ve gone through, BUT at least things do seem to be improving. You\'ve made it through the hard part I\'d say.

You can regret your decisions all you want, but its better to look forward and think positively. You made it through a nightmare and things are improving from here (at least they seem to be with your recent pics etc).

It reminds me of some quote I heard a long time ago I can\'t remember what its from or who said it but it hits home to me at least:

\"Be careful of the way you perceive the world... it is that way.\"

You can look back and regret things and be mad at yourself or your situation. You can blame yourself, docs, god, the universe. But in the end, its what you make of it.

Sorry for my sappy response, but just wanted to chime in.

I\'ve been lucky that I haven\'t had real major complications, but as I\'ve said before, my results are far from perfect and I do have some noticeable lumps and bumps and ridges etc. The pics might not show it as they are more below the surface type stuff, but they are there and I suspect if I was gay, I\'d maybe have different experiences than I\'ve had.

I know I\'ve seen other posts where other members refer to my results as the ideal outcome and your latest ordeal as the warning against PMMA... this bothers me, not that they are pointing out what can happen, but because they are referring to my results as \"perfect\".

Like I said, I do have irregularities and lumps as well... I\'m just not the type to dwell on them or have the desire to go in and remove or fix them or even get another doctor\'s opinion of them since they don\'t hurt I can live with them. I never expected it to feel or appear completely natural and to me it\'s good enough, I can deal with the odd lump or hard spot.

If this thread is about averages and numbers I can give a fairly decent straight guy perspective who fucks a lot...

I\'d say I\'ve had around 200 - 250 partners total since I first got PMMA in 2011. Ages range from 18 to 56... average age would be around 25.

(Average partners being around 4 per month x 12 months) x 4 years = 192
(some months were way more, some way less)

Total number of women who have called me out as \"altered\" or \"fake\" = 1

For me the key has been that I haven\'t dwelled on any complications I have (or even been worried about them). The worst being an entry point Nodule that looks like a pimple or wart... I\'ve had it for years now and it hasn\'t changed in the slightest. I\'ve had maybe 3 or 4 women point it out and ask what it is and the answer I always give with 100% success has been that it\'s where docs went in and had to drain my CC due to a Priapism when I was younger. I use the same reasoning for the size and lumpiness (saying its scarring) and they buy it... I know it\'s a lie, but it\'s better than saying I went to Mexico and got plexiglass beads injected into me.

I guess the point of all this, to me, is that even if the complications are there, if you don\'t dwell on it or bring attention to it and have the right mindset, things usually tend to turn out fine. I just shrug it off when they bring attention to it, give my little explainer and move on to the good stuff.

The straight world may well be very different than the gay world in that sense. But thought I\'d add my 2 cents.. hopefully it makes some sense, I know I tend to ramble and get sidetracked.

Hey thanks - that was good. I agree. It\'s hard to emerge from all that crap and finally see things turned around because I was so fucked up for a while. But mentally I am better and I lost 12-15 lbs from the peak of that mess. Sometimes...though...and it\'s just hard not to help myself - but when I catch a glimpse from one side (the lumpy one), I see those bumps and am like - wtf did go through for all these bumps? why are they still there! But it\'s interesting you brush it off to yourself so easily - and then that translates to others. It\'s been a while since I\'ve seen your pics, but it looked pretty good - and the fact it is huge kind of makes up for irregularities I think. if I had your size stats, I think I\'d care less about irregularities (as partners would as well, I suspect). Mine is still in the average range - and cutting some of that PMMA out led to other parts looking thin (tho depends on EQ really). I think also it will settle over the next year ... well I hope so. The scars and skin may expand. The other scars should flatten... it was just a long road I never expected (and it started in 2010! Something is wrong w/ my body\'s processing of collagen and scar tissue...it must be).

I\'ve basically taken on your mentality when I have hooked up in the last 2-3 mos... like, ok there are lumps, but if u call me out on it - I have a cover story (nobody called it out). My FWB knows my WHOLE long ass story - since we\'ve been Hanging out for a year, now...odd to have a sexless FWB, but he\'s a nice guy (when he isn\'t accusing me of giving him STDs - I posted about him ages ago thinking my PMMA gave him a sore throat!). If it was more smooth or bigger, I\'d still feel better... there\'s kinda no way around that one... but yeah over time I think I am better about the whole thing.

Don\'t worry I ramble pretty bad too. I followed your whole post anyway FWIW.

I know (or think I know), from all the different work I have had on my body surgically, I move toward \"normalcy\" in general - scar tissues softens, marks disappear, hyper pigmentation disappears. I look remarkably normal after all the work I have had and all the different looks my Dick has had. It is soft, the color it is supposed to be, skin that was loose did what it need to and contracted, and no one would ever know I had surgery for the most part. When the grafts were inserted, the skin stretched, blood vessels attached and grew, everything expanded etc.

I have had grafts put in, modified through surgery a year later, and then removed many years later, ligs cut etc. Not quite the same thing as you are asking but the principles applies. My Flaccid was rock hard and contracted for a long time after my grafts - 9 months to a year - it looked like a tree stump and felt like wood - but the tissue softened completely, my Dick relaxed and got less contracted and then hung normally. I had nerve damage on my ass from where they took out the graft tissue that lasted 8 years.

I think the time frame for these procedures is much longer for some guys than is frequently represented here, i.e. collegian kicks in at 6-8 weeks or whatever the time frame is - and then you will be set and have your final outcome. That maybe unrealistic and can freak a lot of people out if they don\'t have what they want at 8 weeks. I maybe comparing apples and oranges - but they are both fruits so maybe the same thing, lol. I hope that helps.

this is a great thread, surprised i didnt see it before

@ restoration your Cock looks great btw completely natural and a very good size - frankly i have also seen \'quite a few\' cocks in my life and it is definitely larger than most and thicker at the base by a good amount. and the EQ is very very good from what i see in the photos. i would never guess you had been through all that either but i get the mental effect. we are very very connected psychologically with what is Hanging between our legs. obvious point to make on this forum i know.

to throw my hat in the ring, i would say that the average size is just under 6 Inch by about 4.5 Girth.
sample size undisclosed but certainly in excess of 1500.
of which i would say under 10% would i consider repeating. quality v quantity as they say. but that ship has sailed (hit an iceberg, never seen again).

best sex i have is never with guys with big cocks. yes they are fun to mess about with but when it comes to full body experience, hair standing on end sex, it is never the donkey nob fellas. i will go out on a limb here and say that having a big Dick has ruined many a good man in my opinion because they have been treated as \'the human dildo\' for so long they just disconnect mentally. and that is just not going to be a hot experience. ok, not all, but it seems much more commonplace.

but i nevertheless want a fatter Cock myself. i like how it feels and being very orally oriented, i love a gagger.

Thanks mischiefmkr. I think it looks ok from the top too. The EQ is better when I take the 5mg Cialis and/or citrulline & arginine (which I forget to take all the time & sometimes gives me headaches). On a normal day, there\'s literally only 1 guy who can give me a normal super boner without a pill.

Anyway, IMO... It\'s not so great overall though...well.. I lost all perspective. What would you make of this?

This is what I wanted them to fix with silicone, but I don\'t think they are interested in seeing me as a patient anymore (there hasn\'t been a reply in a while). There is a lump of PMMA still left underneath, though the bulk of it was cut out. There\'s a scar from one excision by my Dermatologist in the pic - but may not show up clearly. I don\'t know if it is even worth \"fixing\" again or if I could just put Radiesse around that area. I lost 1/2\" of length too...so that kinda sucks. The one guy I hooked up with in the last month said I had a \"great Cock\" and it was really thick (it\'s like 5.2 at the base, max...and 5 mseg). He had a pretty small penis, so maybe that is why. My FWB has a huge Dick (7 x 5.5 in actual inches - but this is huge in the real world outside this board!) so I feel mildly insecure in that \"relationship\".

How did you get to 1500? I think HunkyDory had a high number like that. I could spend every day at a bath house and not get that number. Part of the problem is I had Dick problems from 30-35 so I couldn\'t do much, and gay men all seem conditioned from porn and apps to only want the top 1% of looks and body... and I am not in that stratosphere. Those are the only guys I know in the 1000s. They literally hook up 4x a day with different guys.

best sex i have is never with guys with big cocks. yes they are fun to mess about with but when it comes to full body experience, hair standing on end sex, it is never the donkey nob fellas. i will go out on a limb here and say that having a big Dick has ruined many a good man in my opinion because they have been treated as \'the human dildo\' for so long they just disconnect mentally. and that is just not going to be a hot experience. ok, not all, but it seems much more commonplace.

I TOTALLY agree with this! Horse hung guys are horrible in bed - almost across the board - for exactly this reason.

I haven\'t been having so much random sex lately...partly bc the scene feels dead ... or something. I don\'t know what is happening. I am past the gay death age of 35, so this might be why. Or, did everyone get gay-married in the last year?? The only guy I hooked up with wanted to \"date\" and then texted me every day for two weeks before hooking up. He was nice, but that was a lot of work for this old slut.

The only hot guys I\'ve seen are straight and in the gym. I did see one who my trainer insisted was checking me out - and I would have jumped on THAT guy like a starving animal, but I don\'t think he\'s right. I just happened to be by the water fountain and he was filling up his bottle. But, he was staring right at me as I was doing this bicep thing that made me look huge (I never see straight guys stare like that). My trainer is a straight ex-football player, so the fact we even talk about this is hilarious.

Ok posting this late has me rambling big time.

@restoration - LOL - you really have to at least talk to the water cooler guy. whats the worst that could happen - he is a nutter or vapid pointless individual. he might be a decent fella, or even better. and lets be honest, its a very attractive feature when someone finds us jaw dropping attractive. or maybe i am a total narcissist (i\'m not).

your Cock looks great. good and thick and chunky. you do not need to do anything to it at all. seriously.
if you insist on trying something, dont do anything permanent this time, you have been through a lot with it already. you could try a temp thing to see how you like it, such as Hyaluronic Acid filler, a couple of ml where you want it, and see how you go. if you like it, great, it didnt cost much, if you dont, fine, it will dissolve away in under a year or you can get rid of it immediately with a different injection. but basically, leave it well alone, its great and anyone who you are going to click with sex wise it is not going to because of your Cock.

dont be Hanging around with Cock obsessed vapid queens though - aside from being the most boring self hating people on planet earth they will do nothing for your self esteem or pulling power. they repel decent men. sorry but they do.

but seriously, it looks great. and at the ripe old age of 45 and 1500 men later, i can tell you, Cock size has nothing to do with good sex. best sex i have had in the past year, guy with a Cock about 4 inches long and wide as my thumb. i was buzzing for days after. go figure.

btw, i am not proud of the quantity of men, as I said, the quality has been very variable, how could it be otherwise with that number? and its only about 1 a week for 27 years, some weeks a lot more, some weeks none. i just like variety i suppose. despite being an all round great guy - lol - i suppose i am the opposite of \'good partner material\'. and i am not a buffed adonis. HA ! i just find a lot of different types attractive. breathing, two arms and two legs. actually that last one is not an absolute requirement, there was the half a leg guy. he was handsome and a lovely guy. i am not joking.

right, enough digression. your Cock looks great, get out and enjoy it. or stay in and enjoy it on your own. but enjoy it !

Wow, I hadn\'t seen so much about gay sex on this forum, thought it was primarily a straight forum. So I will chip in on the average penis size and looks conversation.

I think I have seen a lot of dicks, so I confess. My huge gay experiences were from the age 12 - 20. Probably 200 - 300 hook ups and a few relationships, but the number climbed when it was solely money for sex and hit into the 1000 plus range. A life time ago - my activities later tempered by marriage and family. This means I saw a lot of variations in men, so I feel I can comment on size and shape.

I agree that the average Erect length appears to be between 5 1/2 to 6 inches length, followed by maybe 15% - 6 to 7 Inch, a few percent 8 in. and over.
15 % - 4 1/2 to 5 in. and a few percent lower. That is in the primarily caucasian range in the Western country I am in.

What is unique, is that there is sometimes no way of knowing from Flaccid size, what is going to occur. The biggest bulge becomes average. the smallest bulge becomes huge. That is where the difference is most noticeable - what it becomes. Also body size surrounding penis, changes the perception. Fat, skinny, tall short all adds a variation of perception.

It is funny about perception. I never cared how big or small a partner was. but cared how I was perceived and do to this day. Funny heh.

Restoration - fine Dick, above average.

Don\'t forget dicks have different looks naturally, regardless of PE. I for one - not a fan of big veins, and half a dozen other appearance issues. People have a gauge of what they find desirable. Smooth, cylindrical, just the right size, 6 x 5 or so, evenness of colour, matching sized head, Erect without looking red and angry - Not possessed by everyman, that is for sure. Evolution definitely placed function as senior to aesthetics, in my mind.

What I do know, regardless of what I or others, think is aesthetic in a Dick, sexual stimulation can begin way before seeing the goods, and then in passion, in the dark, who gives a f #&*%.

Our bodies do unforgiveable things that are not aesthetic and we forgive each other those \"sins\". We sweat, fart, burp, sneeze, snot. We gain weight, lose muscle tone, get diseases and so on. A non perfect penis is just another thing we live with and tolerate in one another. lol.

It is great to read your and other\'s stories, so open and out there. It is helpful. Not so alone.

Thankyou.


Stevenrose.

Thanks Stevenrose. The issue that is stuck w/ me is not even so much the size, at this point, but more the weird skin unevenness and scars. The pic I posted up there on 2/4 just doesn\'t look normal to me at all. I also have a bunch of hard nodules left, but I don\'t want to mess with it any more since I have too many scars and in the Erect state, the nodules add size. I haven\'t even taken an updated Erect pic in ages because I don\'t even really want to look at it. It seems like I have lost a lot of size in the circ area. It never grew much there - and what did grow was mostly cut out last summer.

Sorry to hear this is the situation. I understand your concern, especially explaining away the unevenness and scars. I haven\'t followed your whole story, but from bits and pieces I can see you have been through various medical procedures. I wish there was an easy answer. I have not tried any form of PE. But may in the next year. Your situation illustrates that there are risks.
Perhaps, that special someone you can share you life and bed with is just around the corner.

StevenR