TOPIC: HA Long Term Outcomes

LatinLog wrote:
Ellanse is interesting but not perfect. Someone just posted Dr. C is offering it again? But it is also prone to the same issues as PMMA, nodule formation. And if something goes wrong with a PCL (Ellanse) it\'s a waiting game, it\'s not reversible, only with time will it hopefully break down. The future is a longer lasting more affordable HA in my perspective, they are doing so in Korea already. But at the right price Ellanse may be an option.

Regards
LL

I am also aware of various applications without any issues, including those from reputable doctors with extensive Ellanse experience. In particular, Dr. Khattar confirmed having \"never encountered a granuloma,\" despite years of applications. See pages 15 and 19 of
issuu.com/austramedex/docs/1612-ellanse-my-beauty-book

There\'s also the comprehensive study into Ellanse attached. This appears to be a vastly more durable and firmer product than HA.

Chester thanks for the links, I will check those out. As for granuloma, I also read a study that stated that because Ellanse uses hydroxyapatite, it does not form granulomas due to it being 100% biocompatible; however, if you look at a post up member Upsize about his experience of receiving it in his face, it certainly have all the clinical characteristics of a granuloma that formed 18 months after his injection and has not resolved even after 3 years post injection with the 2 year product. If you google it, there are other patient reports as well reporting granulomas. Even if you state granulomas are rare and treatable with steroid injections, what about Nodule formation? That same study I mentioned above I recall mentioning that nodules CAN and DO form with Ellanse (they attributed it to injector error of injecting too superficially I believe in). But if you get a that result, how do you get rid of a Nodule without surgery?

I am curious about Ellanse as well because on paper it sounds better than HA in many respects. I honestly do not want a top-up every freaking year or less for HA, I can\'t afford it and I don\'t know how any reasonable person could keep that secret from a significant other at that frequency of traveling for reinjections, especially since most people are not located next door to a clinic that offers HA for Girth.

Rw1234, I have not personally used this, or any fillers, nor am I a doctor who has used it, so I can only refer you to published material from actual doctors who have. That said, I do know that there are considerable differences in product integrity applied to the face versus the penis. The risk of granuloma would be much higher in the face. Further, as some of the older and more experienced PE members like myself have alluded to, if minor bumps and irregularities are the biggest things you\'re worried about, then this is a cakewalk. For clarity, PE is not without risks and it\'s definitely not for everyone, as considerable risks may be involved. However, I\'ll take minor bumps and irregularities over the more serious problems encountered by others on lesser products.

I am still concerned about how granuloma, infection, and nodules would be handled in the event they occur. Having a plan if things go haywire and knowing to a degree what to expect makes things far less scary. I hope Dr. Oates addresses my questions that I posed earlier in this thread regarding how he would address such issues if they arise.

Dr C or others here will be so kind as to correct me if I\'m wrong. But in general from what I\'ve gleaned informally since 2011 on the earlier Phallobards 1.0 and this current version 2.0 of PhalloBoards, most guys return to Tijuana after a certain delay and don\'t show up with positive results from other procedures. If Dr C has administered in the past Hyaluronic Acid to those worried about the permanence of PMMA I would not doubt, given his thousands of procedures done. However, how many among these have travelled back to Mexico within a short time span? The likelihood is that they may have waited until it melted away before returning for a refill, corrections or a different procedure (PMMA or Silicon micropellets?).In any case it is likely that the durability of Hyaluronic Acid injections can best be determined by those who make many repeat procedures with this substance and do regular follow-up of their patients. If it is the occasional return visit that brings a conclusion, this can hardly be representative of the broad spectrum of responses to injections. Some may stimulate collagen. Others may melt away rapidly. Chemical substances both topical and systemic may intervene as well as varying responses to one\'s body to the injections. Suffice to say that HA is temporary and won\'t last that long. I\'ve benefitted from PMMA since 2011 and am a very happy camper (in a luxury sleeping bag if you please). However, I do at times get remarks that it can\'t be real, usually from seasoned professionals who have seen many many units in varying sizes and forms. This isn\'t easy to get past. I usually tell them I am the son of a very large father, the absolute truth, and that I have a brother much larger than me (before PMMA of course). This usually ends the conference but doesn\'t always solve the \"will it fit\" issue. Ask Mustang for the workaround lol.

If you\'re worried about getting too big, do HA. However, a couple of years ago, in his great wisdom and aesthetic perspective, Dr C determined I was too big and managed to thin me quite a bit. Wade said nobody could possibly swallow it and that there are limits! Anyhow it\'s just to say that PMMA can at least be partially reversible in its aesthetic configuration, if not in the elimination of matter from tissues.

So it can be established that HA will be temporary. This is the only benefit of this procedure as it won\'t make your unit harder and firmer, which is what women like. Not sure if men do, as I\'ve no experience with that. HA won\'t make it rigid whereas PMMA does. But if you\'re on the fence and wish to wait without giving up on extra size, HA is a no-brainer. Get that Girth both for the self-confidence it is sure to give as well as for the likely higher attachment of your partner to your \'features\'.

Only, don\'t count on it lasting more than 6 months at full Girth. Then it might gradually reduce until being totally reabsorbed between 18 months and 2 years time. This is what I\'ve learned about HA in facial implementation after talking to many plastic surgeons who routinely inject it. They however usually inject a bit less each time, as some collagen will be created as it melts to fill the void left. So it may over time help one increase natural tissue growth, but not dramatically or rapidly like PMMA.

Cheers,

HC

Your saying Dr C made you smaller? How so?