TOPIC: Big 10 vs 30% PMMA concentration Summary/Collection Thread

@Bolk Did you get the PMMA done?

Bolk - just tell him \"use your best judgement\" he\'s done close to 2000 of these things. There has got to be a method to his madness.

Bring in an ipad and show him the drawing I pointed out above. Ask him why he prefers it that way. He may make sense, and you may change your mind or he may shrug and say \"ok, 30% it is\".

You have 30 minutes to talk to him and ask him anything pre-op. Use your time wisely. Your op is coming up quick!

I\'m going 30% all the way for round one. Then 10% after that.. It just seems to make the most sense to me.

Right now for session 1, if Dr. C is working on his opinion it seams he goes with 30% at the base moving towards 10% closer to top + silicon MD to fill in at the circ scar.
Please search for \"report of a case\" by Avanti Derma for a sketch by Dr. C.

Very valuable information here (thanks Dream for condensating it).

Seems to me that the
10% (test produce in your body)
30% (big secondary gains)
10% (touch ups)

Approach, is very smart.


But why do Dr N suggests 30% for first round?
What\'s Dr C method instead, does He just leave the patient choose?

Hm.

Is this right, i think i read it sometimes:
- After eg 8 months or something PMMA sometimes (?) gets harder
Eg smalljay said it turned rockhard when Flaccid (only after 3rd round of 30%PMMA, and he says it happened to restoration too)

Did PMMA hardness change over time with you?
I mean after 14 day, before of course is swelling and stuff.
Does it generally get a bit harder?

- Now i was thinking if after 3 rounds of 10% the hard penis seems to too soft,
i could go with a 30% next round?
But the last round making 30% seems bad - people do more 10% in the last round and only touchup low milliletres, just focusing on beauty and symetry and not on growth.
Not 30% on top of 10%

The idea of 10% and lower milliletres is to not fuck penis up too much, because you see the beginnings of fuckup beforehand?
Also the Doc can fix stuff that is out of proportion?


I took 10% in Round 1.
Now thinking about what to take on Round 2.

Why i tend to go with 10%:
- Hardness and lumps could be nigthmarish, stuff that makes you regret things, stuff that makes you fear of being \'found out\' by all new girls and stuff like that.
If you get 10% you did a big part of helping against that it seems.
- In the statistics (see link in first post) 30% only makes just a bit more bigger than 10%. Then better just have one more round.
- On the other hand, does 30% give harder erections? And especially 10% in not-round1 lead to small gains?

- Perhaps like this:
Round 1 was with 10%, there seem to be not much differences in gains in the first round between 10 and 30%
Round 2 go 30% to get more gains and hardness,
Round 3 and 4 go 10% again for smoother finish and balancing nodules out

Comments very welcome, especially on the last part

this stuff is so helpfull. thanks for putting all this out there. I almost positive i\'m going with 30% now.

I don\'t follow the logix here. PMMA won\'t mix I don\'t think. Not once the collagen has already formed.

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/is-...dules&pid=1274952880
09/11/12 -> ok, old

hoddle10:
10% isn\'t good for further top ups.
I\'ve figured out why that is now, btw. Each bead needs to be encapsulated in collagen.
During the first round the amount of beads doesn\'t make much difference as the total surface area isn\'t that different as beads that are close together see collagen formation overlap or become denser.
There will be a slight, but not much difference.
But with round two, this slight difference becomes much more apparent as the new beads are being injected where there is already collagen formation.
If anything 10% will just make the old collagen more dense and hence we have seen people making no gains at all.
You could almost say that you are just turning old PMMA into 20% concentration.

Maybe some guys are ashamed to say they had poor EQ before. That\'s why, when the datum is subjective (the person\'s former EQ), the answers are fairly evasive. Otherwise, for a board of such long standing, that answer should have been clear long ago! Most reports have concentrated on aestethics.

However, EVERYONE knows what is a \"rock hard\" Erection. If we use this as the reference and the questions are reviewed based on it, the (honest) answers may be quite different and we could draw more \"positive\" conclusions ...

Hardness of erect and flaccid penis after 10% pmma or 30% pmma:

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/sho...ount=26&forum=198401

jelq nicholson:
The question I would ask is:
Can the shaft made of PMMA & collagen, when fully vascularised (taking cialis for example), be as diamond-cutter hard as a tunica can be ?
If I take Mustang\'s input, the answer would be no, but a good firmness anyway. That would go inline with the positive sexual experiences of 30% members (not saying 10 or 20% have bad experiences, but for some the 10% has been reported too spongy for their taste).
A possible understanding could be that the range of firmness is higher for a natural tunica than for an enhanced PMMA shaft, for example:
a natural tunica could go from 0 to 10. (on an absolute basis, for one man it could be 0 to 9 for another 0 to
a 30% PMMA enhanced shaft could go from let\'s say 2 to 8.
a 10% maybe from 1 to 7.

Mustang2020:
These are my thoughts/Theory:
(BTW, I am assuming a moderate to large amount of PMMA is injected and more than one session is performed. If you inject a few CC\'s, my comments do not apply since the final girth effect will be minimum)
IF you have generally a good EQ (Erection Quality) and a hard rock erections pre PMMA
I theorize and feel , and it is true in my case, the following:
If you get 10% PMMA, the final feel and after the stabilized girth has occurred, you will have a much lower erection firmness feel. The Flaccid firmness may be the same more or less.
If you get 20% PMMA, the final feel and after the stabilized girth has occurred, you will have a lower erection firmness feel. The Flaccid firmness may be very slightly more.
If you get 30% PMMA, the final feel and after the stabilized girth has occurred, you will have a Little lower erection firmness feel. The Flaccid firmness will be a bit more.
IF you have generally a low EQ (Erection Quality) and medium to soft erections pre PMMA
I theorize and conclude the following which is based on reading some reports here, watching some men with soft erection in porn and based on some educated guessing:
If you get 10% PMMA, the final feel and after the stabilized girth has occurred, you will have a similar erection firmness feel. The Flaccid firmness may be the same more or less.
If you get 20% PMMA, the final feel and after the stabilized girth has occurred, you will have a little higher erection firmness feel. The Flaccid firmness may be slightly more.
If you get 30% PMMA, the final feel and after the stabilized girth has occurred, you will have a higher erection firmness feel. The Flaccid firmness may more.

faculae:
My guess is that any differential of firmness men discover after moderate to conservative PMMA injections can largely be attributed to the the granuloma process, which is entirely subjective and a function of personal factors such as health, age, healing rate, etc. However, again, I do concede that large amounts of PMMA and/or multiple installations may alter the \'feeling\' later due to excessive scar tissue/s or simply the PMMA itself.

chester:
I don\'t think this poll proves that 10% gives you a softer penis. Only 2 people answered that way, and the poll is extremely limited. Absolutely no way you can make a valid determination of that from this poll.

I think this is great Dream but I think you are under estimating the impact of regular gains.
Some guys on here want 2-3\" of Girth which seems more common, and some would be super happy with 1\" or less.

Yup. I wanna go from 4.6 EG to 5.6 EG with half way decent aesthetics and I\'m outta here! What you did HD sounds like a plan to me.

~LL

I think this is great Dream but I think you are under estimating the impact of regular gains.
Some guys on here want 2-3\" of Girth which seems more common, and some would be super happy with 1\" or less.

I got .5\" from 10% my first round (10% of 20cc\'s is only 2cc\'s of PMMA);
.25\" from my second round of 20% (20cc\'s of 20% = 4cc\'s of PMMA) - thats .75\" from 6cc\'s of actual PMMA - and .25\" with a 3rd round of Silikon.

That\'s 1\" in 3 sessions and no irregularities. Some guys complain if they only get .25\" but honestly, I was hoping I would get that my 2nd rounds and not less so I was actually really satisfied. It all depends on what your expectations are.

I would have stopped there but for the fact I had issues from a prior PE procedure so went back one more time and a little PMMA (10%) put in the base and some Silikon - but walked away with 1.25\" in 4 visits and would have been happy with just the 1\" after 3 trips. I also have no irregularities and might have if I tried to get more Girth out of less visits, or maybe I was just lucky - or maybe shit will happen later - I can\'t say with any certainty.

Btw, 20% is not a 20% mixture but a Y shaped piece of equipment that injects 10% and 30% at the same time through the cannula and 30% freaks me out too much. I would have just done 10% my 2nd round.

I am about 2,5 days post Round 1 and I went with 10%. Got 15cc\'s of it. Yet is too early to tell anything but I\'ll tell you that when I got home after the 1st round (about 12 hours) it felt really really \'weird\' to have something inside your penis. Now I\'m getting more used to it. I\'m quite sure that theweird feel would have been more exaggerated if I\'d went with 30%...

At this point I think I made a good call to go with 10% and no more than 15cc\'s but time will tell..

Very nice compilation