TOPIC: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed.

indiano123 wrote: I understand having to save and not having enough money for the procedure. You could try to go back and get bellafil/macrolane mix i believe it $1000 for 10cc. Or even another doctor in nyc. There\'s dr mirza who charges $400 per cc which will be about $2,000.

If he payed $3500 for 5cc of Bellafill then the 10cc of Bellafill/macrolane for $2000 would even have less than 5cc of Bellafill mixed in with it.

That does sound like a rip off compared to getting 20cc of PMMA from Dr C for $3000. That extra $500 is the cost of traveling to Mexico and your getting 15cc more product.

That\'s triple the gains for the same price. If Heller used more Bellafill like around 10-15cc for that price than I could see going to him. But $7000 for 10cc of Bellafill is crazy.

Thanks for sharing the detailed review on Heller because I was wondering about him for awhile. It just doesn\'t seem worth it to pay that much for such little product.

Cashew wrote: If he payed $3500 for 5cc of Bellafill then the 10cc of Bellafill/macrolane for $2000 would even have less than 5cc of Bellafill mixed in with it. That does sound like a rip off compared to getting 20cc of PMMA from Dr C for $3000. That extra $500 is the cost of traveling to Mexico and your getting 15cc more product. That\'s triple the gains for the same price. If Heller used more Bellafill like around 10-15cc for that price than I could see going to him. But $7000 for 10cc of Bellafill is crazy. Thanks for sharing the detailed review on Heller because I was wondering about him for awhile. It just doesn\'t seem worth it to pay that much for such little product.

Yeah it was more of the convenience factor, since I live and work so close, plus I had assumed that being able to literally come in after work or on a day off at a whim with no travel plans involved would be worth the extra, but in hindsight I think I\'ll take a trip south of the border for my next round. I don\'t know what my final results with 5CC will be, but so far I\'m sitting at 5.4 - 5.45 EG midshaft. at this rate I\'ll be dropping 20k before I hit my goal.

Also, I haven\'t seen anything decent about Heller here, either. So I guess I\'m the guinea pig lol. I\'ll post more pictures tomorrow. Not much has changed, though.

Reklaw wrote: I use 90% gel applied directly into the skin, it stung at first but I think my skins become desensitised to it because I\'ve been using it over the entire shaft everyday for 4 months straight. I\'ve tried using it with apple cider vinegar but it caused my extreme skin irritation/rash I found it better to use iodine but now I just apply it on its own. After loosing 1.5 Inch in Girth in 18 month the skin on my penis looks and feels like a granny\'s chin. Prior to having the procedure my skin was fresh elastic and tight like that of a baby. People should bear this in mind when they have excessive amounts and aim to gain 2 Inch, if you ever have it removed, your penis will end up looking like a Chinese Shar Pei like mine does.

good warning. i\'m lucky on the Girth side, with 5.25 midshaft. i want 6. i was hoping this would have been a relatively smooth operation to only go up .75 inches without this kind of drama. i should have just gone to Dr. C. i\'d be at my goal already, even if i had the lumps at least i\'d feel like i got SOMETHING out of it besides a lesson.

Dickwitman wrote: So was this PMMA or HA that you had injected?

PMMA. 5cc\'s of Bellafill.

So was this PMMA or HA that you had injected?

I use 90% gel applied directly into the skin, it stung at first but I think my skins become desensitised to it because I\'ve been using it over the entire shaft everyday for 4 months straight.
I\'ve tried using it with apple cider vinegar but it caused my extreme skin irritation/rash I found it better to use iodine but now I just apply it on its own.
After loosing 1.5 Inch in Girth in 18 month the skin on my penis looks and feels like a granny\'s chin.
Prior to having the procedure my skin was fresh elastic and tight like that of a baby.
People should bear this in mind when they have excessive amounts and aim to gain 2 Inch, if you ever have it removed, your penis will end up looking like a Chinese Shar Pei like mine does.

Even a lot of the mixed gels were too intense for me - they irritated my skin. The other thing to know is that I massaged it into my dick all over the top and that was a mistake - it was way too much. There are a few threads on here on how to apply - mixed with apple cider vinegar I think etc. I never figured out how to use it without irritating my skin but it is doable - phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/dms...=dmso&pid=1276883920

@indiano

should i go for pure dsmo and mix it with something or go for the 70% creams or gel.
yeah, i think the biggest issue with heller is that, even IF he actually provided some form of aftercare or advice beyond \"it will even out,\" i think his issue is in the technique. Bellafill uses a bovine collagen as a carrier, it absorbs very slowly, about two weeks or so. that\'s too long for a stretching shrinking penis unless its 90 degrees outside and your a shower not a Grower. but he uses needles, not a cannula. that\'s a lot of holes. alot of bruising, swelling, and trauma. even if you wanted to ignore him and wrap/tape/sleeve/massage yourself, you wont be able to tell how you\'re doing until all the swelling goes down. too little too late at that point. just avoid him.

skippythewhale wrote:
i\'ve been massaging non-stop every day. no dice. it\'s settled in. I\'m not sure where to pick up any DSMO locally, though I live near Manhattan, so it can\'t be that hard to find if I know where to look. Perhaps online.
Heller is still acting like this is a normal outcome of the procedure. He offered no suggestions for post care. I even asked about wrapping and the like immediately after the procedure, and he told me \"he doesn\'t believe in all that.\" I paid the man $3500 for a Peyronie\'s-esk lumpy Dick with less than a .25\" increase that my girlfriend doesn\'t want to touch. I would strongly advise never going to see this man for PMMA. I will certainly not be going back. I\'ve contacted Avanti Derma and sent Wade the latest set of photographs on Friday. waiting for a response.

You can buy it online and at a pharmacy, byt the pharmacy may not give it to you. I bought mines at vitacost.com, im really sorry this happened man, but i think your gf should be more supportive bc u need that right now. Im sure she will love the sex regardless of lumps but girls r weird so dont worry to much. If by chance u dont get dsmo u should definitely ask them about silkon1000. I really thought using a pump would help soften nd break up the lumps. Really bummed out heller no good i wanted to go to him.

Lexus27 wrote: Thank you for sharing.i will not be going to Heller. My appointment is booked with dr.c and wade for April.

learn from my mistakes, brother.

indiano123 wrote: Have you tried dsmo? If you do go to dr c i suggest asking for a full round of silkon1000 or silkon and PMMA to cover the irregularities. Have you tried pumping and massaging, its sort of possible you pump up and then aggressively massage. Sorry this happened man, but do you think u will ever go back to heller?

i\'ve been massaging non-stop every day. no dice. it\'s settled in. I\'m not sure where to pick up any DSMO locally, though I live near Manhattan, so it can\'t be that hard to find if I know where to look. Perhaps online.
Heller is still acting like this is a normal outcome of the procedure. He offered no suggestions for post care. I even asked about wrapping and the like immediately after the procedure, and he told me \"he doesn\'t believe in all that.\" I paid the man $3500 for a Peyronie\'s-esk lumpy Dick with less than a .25\" increase that my girlfriend doesn\'t want to touch. I would strongly advise never going to see this man for PMMA. I will certainly not be going back. I\'ve contacted Avanti Derma and sent Wade the latest set of photographs on Friday. waiting for a response.

Thank you for sharing.i will not be going to Heller. My appointment is booked with dr.c and wade for April.

Have you tried dsmo? If you do go to dr c i suggest asking for a full round of silkon1000 or silkon and PMMA to cover the irregularities. Have you tried pumping and massaging, its sort of possible you pump up and then aggressively massage. Sorry this happened man, but do you think u will ever go back to heller?

Damn sorry you have to go through this. I had similar results with my first round using PMMA. Luckily after many subsequent procedures, it doesn\'t look nearly as bad. I would go and see Dr. C for the second procedure. Even though he is the one that I got a terrible first round result from, it was because I wore the silicone sleeve and it mushed up the product and created a nightmare. .They no longer have people wear those sleeves. I know that if I wouldn\'t have wore the sleeve, the result would\'ve been way better. Good luck to you

About the 1 month mark (27 days) post op. I really hope the second round, regardless of where I get it done, improves on the first.