TOPIC: PMMA vs Bellafill?

sexy beast wrote:
i don\'t know, we had this training last week and the P.A-C that was doing the training said she new a fellow P.A. that was using Bellafill with success, if we find out i\'m sure we could get some good info from him.

Cashew wrote: I\'ve read about 2 members on this forum getting fillers from Mirza but their answers were cloudy at best and did not go into specific detail. If I get it done from these doctors I will give a very well written detailed review. I\'m also going to contact both Mirza and Heller and ask them straight up if they open the product in front of you and what exactly they use and I will report back. I will also contact Fernou.

ll wrote: Seems Heller has some sad yelp reviews as well.

~LL

indiano123 wrote: True but theres a couple of members who went to him, i trust him more then mirza. Mirza only had 2 members and only 1 was successful, the next was not. Hunky dory went to him and said he has no technique and has gotten lumps bc mirza has no idea what he\'s doing nd in the end hd ending up dissolving everything and going to dr c for PMMA.

ll wrote: I agree, I\'ve seen posts by people who\'ve used Heller. I\'m searching, but I\'ve not yet seen one report by someone who tried his Bellafill/juvaderm mix.

~LL

Venous wrote: Heller is actually also using 100% Bellafil, if the customer prefers and pay for it: \"10cc\'s which typically is about $6900\", email from him.

But now, we see more clinics and doctors offering this filler, FDA approved, for penile Girth enhancement (like Jenesis, in California too).

Question, still, I think, not very/well discurssed here: could be Bellafil maybe better than Linnea Safe?

I know that it is much more expensive, and sometimes could have some allergic problems with the carrier (bovine colagen).

But I suggest to not focus on this (because the cost acceptance depends on each pocket, and also there are previous allergic reaction tests) - but primarily in the product quality. Are the particles size more better and more homogeneus for it, and hence lumps and nodules could be less probable? And the gain results? Are worse with Bellafil? Why? Isn\'t it PMMA 20%?

I read here statements like this: \"20cc of Bellafill would probably clump up like crazy. If your getting .5 Belladerm with Heller you would have to get 4 rounds just to get the permanent effects of 1 round of 20cc PMMA with Dr C plus you have the option to get the 30%.\"

Why?

Cashew wrote: Thanks for helping out with the research guys I appreciate it. Mirza is canceled out with all the bad reviews and feedback so I won\'t be going to him. On the other hand Heller also did not have inspiring reviews on yelp but he did receive good reviews on the realself website which pops up first on google. When I was reading some of Hellers reviews on realself I saw one that said .5cc of juverderm and they were disappointed. I don\'t know if that person got the juverderm for PE or not but obviously .5cc is way too little. Indiano says Heller injects 10cc of juverderm and Bellafill for about 3,000 or macrolane and Bellafill for 2,000. Doesn\'t Dr C use something like 20cc of PMMA. I read somewhere that 20cc is the amount that is optimal. That may be the reason why Dr C gives such thick results. He pumps you full of product and it\'s cheaper lol but who knows the quality of Lennea Safe. It kind of makes sense now as far as pricing goes. Dr C does 20cc of lennea safe for about 3,000 for first round but the price goes down for the second and third round. No wonder why people are getting such thick results. You would have to pay almost double that price if you wanted to get those results from Heller. Although the Bellafill/juverderm or Bellafill/macrolane mix may be a better quality product then the lennea safe. Maybe Hellers mix doesn\'t lump up as much do to the juverderm or macrolane. I need to do more research on macrolane vs juverderm I wonder why juverderm is more expensive. I\'m also curious how many CCs of Bellafill out of that 10cc you get. It sounds like a .5 Bellafill and .5 juverderm mix. I also wonder if Heller reduces the price after the first round. 20cc of Bellafill would probably clump up like crazy. If your getting .5 Belladerm with Heller you would have to get 4 rounds just to get the permanent effects of 1 round of 20cc PMMA with Dr C plus you have the option to get the 30%. It seems if you want cheap and thick results Dr C is the one to go to I\'m just not sure about Lennea safe.