TOPIC: Considering surgery

Hey! Im new at this board. I have considered lenghtening and wideing surgery for quite a while now and consider doing next year. However I want you honest opinions about methods and give me a realistic view on what to expect on gains.

I contacted two surgeons so far. I have mailed with Dr. Rosenthal and he said I can expect around 1 Inch in Girth gain and 1-1,5 in lenght gain, based on my Girth today.

Then I read about all the horror stories about how people dont gain anything at all from this procedures, no matter if its Belladerm, Alloderm, Dermal fillers and so on. Tbh Im a bit surprised that after quite some years with penis operations, there still aint very safe ways to do this it seem. One would thought it gone further than this.

I feeling very confused atm. What to choose? What to expect? Do I most likely throw 10k out of the window, gaining nothing? All I dream of is gaining atleast 0,5 in lenght and 1 Inch in Girth. Then I would be happy. Then I would dare dating.

I must add that Im a European guy and have to travel to US to do this procedure, as I haven\'t seen anywhere they offer anything else than just using fat still. US seem to be way further ahead with this, although I might be wrong?

Thanks for any tips you may have

smalljay wrote: That last comment was meant to be a joke, but not really, because honestly none of us know wtf PMMA can cause down the road. So far so good. But all the Dermal Grafts can cause huge problems too (Necrosis, etc). At your current size (4.1 Girth), I would consider PMMA much more than someone who is already average or above average Girth. I think you could really benefit from it and your whole life could be changed. But maybe your life is already good and you\'re a confident guy. It\'s up to you to do the research and make the decision, I wish you the best of luck!

Could you learn me a bit more about PMMA? I have never heard of this despite investigating several methods of gaining Girth. Im already working manually (PEgym) and gaining lenght, so if I could gain more easily with PMMA (although I still dont have a clue what it is lol), I would be super happy.

Well put hoddle!

Letsee wrote: .

Then I read about all the horror stories about how people dont gain anything at all from this procedures, no matter if its Belladerm, Alloderm, Dermal fillers and so on. Tbh Im a bit surprised that after quite some years with penis operations, there still aint very safe ways to do this it seem. One would thought it gone further than this.

If that were the case there would be hundreds of surgeons in your own country that do these operations. I bet there are several surgeons who offer breast enlargement within an hours drive of where you live. Yet to find someone willing to try and make your penis bigger you need to fly half way around the world. There is a reason for that!

I would check out Thundersplace or PEGYM and start a Hanging or stretching routine if you want length. Girth is a really imperfect procedure still. There are guys who have gotten an Inch on here just by stretching. I did - but it took a year and a half. I also had the lengthening surgery before I started, which increased my Flaccid length to the same as my Erect length. The fact that it took me a year and a half to get the Erect length makes me think that it had little to do with the actual surgery. It is just something that you have to do for the long haul, you wont see results after weeks or a month or two.

hunkydory wrote: Hi if you were looking into Belladerm or Alloderm with Rosenthal you most likely would not get 1\" in Girth (.5\" - .7\" is much more realistic, and it will most likely be closer to .5\"). You won\'t gain any Erect length for the most part but might get 1\" Flaccid length. You would need to stretch daily for a year to a year and a half to see Erect length gains. You might get those gains without the surgery after a year and a half of stretching anyways, but it is good for increasing Flaccid hang. However, if you read this board they are members who had scar tissue issues and came out shorter than when they started. Sorry the truth is so modest, I am sure it is not what you were hoping to hear. Can I ask what your current size is?

Okay, thats an good and honest comment. I guess there is no better surgeos who could do any better than these gains you call for either? I still think its would be worth gaining 0.5 in Girth though.

Current stats:

BPEL is 5.5EG: 4.1

Hi if you were looking into Belladerm or Alloderm with Rosenthal you most likely would not get 1\" in Girth (.5\" - .7\" is much more realistic, and it will most likely be closer to .5\"). You won\'t gain any Erect length for the most part but might get 1\" Flaccid length. You would need to stretch daily for a year to a year and a half to see Erect length gains. You might get those gains without the surgery after a year and a half of stretching anyways, but it is good for increasing Flaccid hang. However, if you read this board they are members who had scar tissue issues and came out shorter than when they started. Sorry the truth is so modest, I am sure it is not what you were hoping to hear. Can I ask what your current size is?

What are your stats Flaccid and Erect that you dont dare daiting?

I\'m also new and interested in the PMMA route. Heck, if my Dick falls off in 40 years it won\'t matter because I should be dead by then anyway.

I had the lig cut, webbing Removal and alloderm graft at once by a doc in Beverly Hills in 2000. His assistant told me in confidence AFTER the surgery that he had it done, and it all resorbs back to close to original size. That is true, but Erect it did make a small difference, but not 10k worth! I did notice the lig cut helped a little, but the risk of nerve damage and scarring is high.

I would like to do Hanging with the all day stretching (ADS) with weights that I see on ebay. Not sure about the silicone suction stretcher like ELS40. Manual stretching is not great an idea for me since I\'m lazy and won\'t do it for more than a minute.