TOPIC: Dr. C

Bigben wrote: Plastics are notorious for raising female hormones like estrogen. So one concern would be guys getting ED and other hormone related issues as the beads age and leach into the tissue and effect the endocrine system. It is unlikely it would have the same detrimental impact on women. This might take decades, but still it is worrisome.

If you had 3 sessions of 20 cc of 30%, that\'s 60 ccs of material, 20 ccs of which is PMMA. That\'s 4 teaspoons of PMMA...most of which won\'t degrade. I doubt it can cause endocrine issues. Anyway, most people haven\'t had this much. I think I had 12 total CCs of PMMA...though I have to check. So, 2.5 teaspoons... most of which isn\'t going anywhere.

Also, with regard to breaking down - nothing I\'ve read about PMMA / plexiglass (including the fact it\'s used in construction - like the roof of athletic stadiums) suggests it will degrade in our lifetimes. It\'s used as bone cement and in orthopedic surgery regularly, along with other plastics like polyethylene (that doesn\'t degrade or leech).

If you can find an academic article, please post it as I am sure many people would be interested to see it. PMMA has been around since the 40s, so you should be able to find something relating to its use as bone cement, it\'s permanent. This formulation is new, of course... but why would this degrade any more than bone cement? Human WBCs cannot eat particles this large.



I just found that some microorganisms may be capable of degrading PMMA and other plastics...used in construction.

Over the past 60yrs we have seen a huge increase in the production of plastics. At the same time male fertility rates have fallen considerably as have testosterone levels. Prostate enlargement, prostatitis and prostate cancer all have risen. The prostate has tissue receptors which are extremely sensitive to estrogen levels.

Surely there are other factors at play but personally I use glass storage containers without exception. I would not feel comfortable having plastic inside my body.

As you mentioned the PMMA net volume is not large which is good. My concerns would apply to PMMA cement as well as all plastics inside the body. It is very difficult to attribute a disease that may take decades to manifest to this influence, so perhaps we will never have the answer. The more recent trend though is for people to reach out for more natural and healthy solutions that minimize health risk

I would avoid applying a solvent like dmso though for fear it might interact with the beads. I think laser hair Removal on the penile shaft also could pose risk, as well as ED injectables. And finally the less beads injected, the better.

Bigben wrote: Over the past 60yrs we have seen a huge increase in the production of plastics. At the same time male fertility rates have fallen considerably as have testosterone levels. Prostate enlargement, prostatitis and prostate cancer all have risen. The prostate has tissue receptors which are extremely sensitive to estrogen levels.

Surely there are other factors at play but personally I use glass storage containers without exception. I would not feel comfortable having plastic inside my body.

As you mentioned the pmma net volume is not large which is good. My concerns would apply to pmma cement as well as all plastics inside the body. It is very difficult to attribute a disease that may take decades to manifest to this influence, so perhaps we will never have the answer. The more recent trend though is for people to reach out for more natural and healthy solutions that minimize health risk

I would avoid applying a solvent like dmso though for fear it might interact with the beads. I think laser hair removal on the penile shaft also could pose risk, as well as ED injectables. And finally the less beads injected, the better.

I don\'t think plastics themselves are considered the problem, but rather the endocrine-disrupting phthalates found in soft or flexible plastics. They will be used in PMMA based products designed to be flexible. But the microspheres in injectable PMMA need to be hard.

\"Phthalates are used in some plastics (usually vinyls and ethylenes) to give them flexibility. To my knowledge, no one has ever used it in PMMA microspheres, as all applications require rigidity and surface hardness. Besides, all PMMA used for implant is tested for purity using HPLC, and any even trace amounts of phthalates would certainly show up in that assay, and again in the testing for residual monomers.\"


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That is helpful info Hoddle, thank you. I do remember reading the soft plastics gas off more. The clear hard plastic water bottles give less of a bad taste vs the opaque 1 gallon soft ones sometimes used here in the US. Funny I don\'t recall seeing the soft ones outside of the US..