TOPIC: Planning on PMMA, please advise on latest tech

Here\'s some more pics. My pathologist said you would need a physical chemist to determine if the sizes are equal or not...since it is 3D and you\'d need it isolated from the tissue. You see a regular h & e stain here... which pathologists use, not chemists.

The best way to make sense of this is to try to find histopathology of artecoll vs. artefill...and compare them to each other and to this.

The other guy who got linnea safe when I did had no issues.

My Dermatologist recently said to me that he thinks I had too much put in, and he\'s had women who get artefill added over and over, and then they start getting lumps. But, I haven\'t seen that on this board at all. My theory is that some kind of network of collagen developed with the existing metacrill implant, and the linnea safe implant 6 months later just couldn\'t stick to it or stay under it. I literally have one normal metacrill implant on my buck\'s fascia and then a bunch of lumps at my injection sites bound to my Dartos fascia...it\'s like the product got squeezed out and formed nodules (rather quickly) at the injection sites - which were still ther 4.5 months later, full size.

I think irregular particule size is more of a trigger for inflammation and granulomas than for nodules...from what I recall.








You wouldn\'t want to see this in your slides (this is Dermalive):



These photos are from the two nodules shown here. They were very firm bundles of collagen, similar to the texture of chewed gum that has been left out. They did not respond to injections (you can see the needle track in one of them actually - but that\'s the best it did...leave a track).





Note that the top one is the one that caused all the problems. The bottom one, though larger, was isolated and the wound closed immediately. The top one created a 2 month mess.

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I spoke to Mirza in person and he does not provide before and after pictures apparently for privacy concerns, which sounds fishy to me. Either way he uses HA as a filler and it\'s $350 per cc which is too expensive for no to small gains. I am now focused on Dr. C but I am disappointed that he only offers Metacrill. I have heard too many negative opinions on this filller due to it\'s uneven particle sizes. I am really stuck at this point.

Hey brice,

thanks for the info and i have been reading for over 2 years now on it and following everything.

i just recently read 2 peoples post that it was still kinda liquid like is why i asked that because most of the progress reports i read were that it eventually did exactly as you said and stays solid more so than liquid like.

i just dont want after 6 months or a year for it to just still be liquid like and i have to move it around or w/e.

glad to know it doesnt do that.

my point for getting it is because i want a thicker penis but not all crazy thick and the main reason is so it hangs better because of its lack of weight and thickness it tends to shrivel up ... i am a Grower not a shower for sure but i figured this would help that along with a ADS.

I do not know where you got the idea that PMMA stays liquid.
For all practical purposes, PMMA is basically tiny plastic beads suspended in a carrier (fluid). The carrier is absorbed by the body within a few days and your body, over time, replaces this with your own collagen.
This is why you have to pay special attention to it for the first three days or so after receiving it. After that, it is pretty much set in place where it will be, lumps, bumps, divots and all. That is the reason behind keeping it extended, massaging it and trying your best to even it out as often as possible within the first few days. Any imperfections are set after that but you can have them addressed with a touch up if you feel the need.

Please make sure you are knowledgeable about the procedure, possible outcomes, etc before you bite the bullet.

my main question is i thought the PMMA got hard after a while and didnt stay fluid like. Is this not the case now? I want to get this done myself and have been on the fence now for 2 years just waiting for more time to pass and see all of you pioneers and yours reports to make sure its something i should do.

I havent see to many bad cases and the ones that i did read were due to other issues and infections. overall it seems safe if you do it in moderation and over time you get a very nice looking result but if after my 3rd round the filler is still like liquid i would not want to do it if thats the case. Can anyone advise on that?

I went to Dr. C in TJ in November of 2014. He used Metacrill.

Results were in line with what you read here. EG went from 4.7 to 5.2.

The Dr. asked me what my priorities were. I told him that I trusted him and to do what he thought was best. He put in 20 CCs of 30% and 4.5 CCs of 10%.

I was extremely happy with the entire process and the results.

Best of luck!

Sculptra has a bad history of lumps....but since they\'ve diluted it more, it isn\'t as bad. Look on RealSelf for more about this. I\'m not sure anyone has used this in the penis, though.

I asked him to send me before and after photos of his work. Will post here if he sends.

I spoke with him on the phone. It did not give me a very warm feeling. It was difficult to get a straight answer out of him. It could have been his accent. A little hard to understand on the phone. It sounds like he only just started using the Bellafill. He said he had done about 200 injections of something else. Maybe sculptra? Like I said it was hard to understand. He did say he would do up to 5cc\'s at a time. 350 per cc. He also said he does not use a cannula. But if you live in that area it would be easier to stop by and see him in person for a consult.

His Yelp reviews are not great and it looks like he offers PRP and Botox parties. There are no gallery shots either - not a confidence booster. He also says that his filler enhancement last up to a year, so maybe he is not using PMMA.

I am surprised to find a groupon deal for this doctor. He uses Bellafill. I have no idea if that is a better choice than artefil, but will look into it.

Edit - Bellafill is rebranded artefil. May give it a shot. Anyone have experience with Dr Mizra?

No, I was talking about this guy:

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/dr-...29534#post1287229534

Thank you for your quick reply.

I believe the NY doctor is either Dr. Lori (has a NY office but maybe operating in FL) or Dr. Elliot. I do not know of their experience or skill.

Welcome to the forum. I think you need to do a lot more research before deciding whether you want to have a penis enlargement procedure of any type. You\'ve got a decent sized penis as it is and my advise is to only ever consider a procedure if you are really desperate as your life is being very negatively effected by the size of your penis. These procedures are from being without risk and the simple fact is, it\'s very common to regret having an \"enhancement.\" Even success stories usually are accompanied by certain caveats.

I\'ll try and answer your questions the best I can, but really you need to spend much more time doing your own research. Read everything you can and don\'t just focus on the positives. In my opinion, after thorough research, the vast majority of men should conclude that it simply isn\'t worth the risk.


I don\'t think anyone can say who is the most experienced with PMMA. But I\'d imagine in terms of using it to enlarge the penis, then one of the Brazilian Dr\'s would be the most experienced. Preference is an individual thing based on your own criteria.

There is a Dr in New York that offers Artefil for penis enhancement. Though technically it\'s not called Artefill anymore. Given your location it\'s worth considering giving him a call. I can\'t remember his name off the top of my head, but if you use the search function you should be able to find him. I\'m unsure if Artefil is any safer than the South American brands, as it uses a different carrier, but I the beads are more consistent apparently.

I\'m unsure if Dr C offers Artefil.

I have no idea, ask the most experienced Dr\'s who offer PMMA.

You wont gain any length.

I\'ve not seen any scars.