TOPIC: Any difference with Linnea Safe?

Question for the forum..
Has anyone recently received Linnea Safe after getting Metacrill from Avanti Derma? If so, did you experience better collagen growth and/or get any nodules? I know in the last year or two some people didn\'t develop gains with Metacrill.
Thanks,

Yes, I had Linnea Safe 6 weeks ago, 30%. I had Metacrill twice in the past in 10% and 30% concentrations.

At my last visit to my Dermatologist in the USA, he counted 12 palpable nodules at ~5 weeks post...ranging from the size of a pea to the size of a grape...from deep under the skin to something at the skin surface level.

I had 2-4 small nodules from Metacrill each time at the skin surface that were gone by 6-8 weeks. I had 1 large Nodule at the base from metacrill 10% that was gone at 8 weeks with no intervention.

I had 1/4\" growth from 15 cc metacrill 30% and no growth from linnea safe 30% (15 cc also). Maybe I got 1/4\" from Linnea safe , but it\'s hard to tell with the nodules.

I think the other part of the problem could be the lack of steroid shots... my swelling was much worse and I got nodules right away. I found the Linnea Safe ingredients (and put them in the FAQ) and do not have any sensitives to them. However, the trauma of a third round (which is tough - given that you have to break through all the collagen from the early rounds) can also have caused this.

Thanks. Appreciate it. Im deciding on which brand of PMMA would be best to get.

Unfortunately there\'s no study or solid data on which will give you more growth and/or less nodules. There was another patient there during my week who posts here - hopefully he will update because he also had Linnea Safe (edit - see the log by \"MustGetBigger\" - he updated it today). Dan Salas said the reputation for linnea safe is really good - and more widely known than metacrill. Dr. Casavantes said it is easier to inject through the syringe, and they\'ve anecdotally noticed it was giving bigger results...but this was definitely not a guarantee of anything.

These boards may not really be representative. I definitely am an outlier since I haven\'t gained much from two rounds of 30%. Though, in my (again weird) experience, I noticed more growth far down the line, whereas most people notice some shrinkage. I think when the body fills the implanted area with blood vessels (takes 3-4 mos) then I have noticed a bit more size. In other guys\' journals, they tend to post some minor shrinkage around 4-6 mos.

My best experience was with 10% metacrill...manufactured in 2013. So... who knows what is going on with me or these products. I wish I could tell you LS gave me 1/2\" solid and no lumps.

So whats are you saiyng its that 10% is the best with the best smooth and natural looking results? And how much can i gain from 10%?

Restoration wrote: Dan Salas said the reputation for linnea safe is really good - and more widely known than metacrill.

No offense to Dan Salas, but he\'s not a credible source on the reputation/quality/efficacy of PMMA brands. He\'s only recently gotten into the \"bioplasty game\" (quotations which imply that he\'s served as a referral agent to other doctors in the past) and isn\'t nearly intimately involved with the industry & products to make any credible claims. He\'s neither a physician or a registered nurse although he considers himself a patient educator. I don\'t have anything personal against the guy since he\'s never shilled or disrespected the forum, but wanted to clarify that he has virtually no authority/legitimacy on this thread\'s topic.

I suspect you\'ll find bias in most sources regarding PMMA brands, but I\'m willing to bet your best bet is Professor Lemperle. I believe he\'ll respond to email inquiries.

As for the topic itself, sample sizes and progress reporting are still too small to indicate a real difference or sheer coincidence. Hopefully this is an incentive for more men to report, good or bad.

Yeah, when we first talked, he hadn\'t heard of it & they were only using metacrill. Then, because I wanted LS, they actually spent a couple of weeks looking into it & trying to get it. So, when he finally got it - he just casually said something like \"I\'m glad you told me about it because through the process of asking around, it seems like a premium product that will be more in demand\" than metacrill. So, that\'s the context...I didn\'t mean to say it like he was trying to up-sell it or something.