TOPIC: Concidering lengthening surgery

Hey Guys,I am reading a lot of threads at this site and it is very comforting to know that I am not the only one who obsessed with his penis.I\'ll tell my story in short.I am stretching/Hanging for about 2 years with a minimum 4 hours per day.I tried everything - ADS, andro-penis, the grip system, x4labs, bib Hanger and even enlargement pills. My only gain was a loose skin. My stats before stretching and after are the same. In my opinion the best device is the bib Hanger. I am Hanging now something like 18lbs. I feel my ligaments are stretched, but my penis is refusing to grow.I guess manual stretching isn\'t enough for me so I am considering a lengthening surgery.A year ago I went to Mexico for DR. Camacho Melo, but after talking with him + reading dcpimpin thread, I decided not to take the surgery with him. (My trip wasn\'t in vain since I took the PMMA procedure with Dr. C and gain more than 1 Inch eg).I read a lot about Dr. Rosental and I believe he is an excellent doctor, but since I need visa to get in the US (and it is hard to get), he is not an option.I am also considering to go to brazil-clinic in Russia, but I am not so sure because the surgery is through the scrotum and they are praising the andro penis as an excellent stretching device. We both know it\'s a piece of shit.Now I am looking for a good DR. in Europe and I need your help.1. Does anyone know about a good doctor in Europe or had an experience with one?2. When I consulted an Urologist, he told me that the procedure can be done through scrotum and through the pubic bone, but the gains from the pubic bone are more significant. I personally can\'t understand how the surgeon can reach the ligaments through the scrotum if they are locatd in the pubic bone? Do you think is true?


Thanks.

Who is Dr viel?

I am srill looking for a good Dr in Europe...

Any thoughts on Dr viel?

Hi KFH,

Thank you for your answer.

From reading your post, eventually you have some gains. 0.5 Inch in Flaccid and some errect.

To tell you the true, my Flaccid state is quite well, but I don\'t mind to add it some more.

I have been doing stretching more than 2 years with various devices. I am trying to strerch and hang at least 3 hours per day. I can\'t see any visible results. It is very depressing. That is why I am concidering lig cut.

Yes, I read many threads in thunder place but it is the same for me as here. People overthere have gains from Jelqing while I am doing much more than that!

I am now 6.1 in a good day and my expectation is to get to 7.0 at all. The more I am trying to achieve it, the more I understand that it\'s almost impossible.

When I consulted with Tatiana, she told me that if I can\'t see any results from manual PE that means that my ligaments are to tight. Maybe I need to loose the a bit, I don\'t know...

I am still debating if to do it or not. For now, There is no other option to achieve some length (if any) than lig cut...

Hi Daniel, hope you\'re well.

Yeah I\'m afraid I wouldn\'t recommend Ligamentolysis if you\'re looking for Erect gains. Whilst I think Erect length gains are possible from the \'lig cut\', I think that is all that it is - possible. I\'ve heard many of the patients didn\'t receive any increase in EL and some who even lost it. I heard a telling indication of the lack of results from the procedure when the secretary of the surgeon who performed my operation thanked me for informing her of my results explaining \"I don\'t know why, but patients inform us about them very seldom even if they tell us that they are very satisfied.\" I took the latter part of the sentence with a pinch of salt, she\'s a lovely woman but it can\'t be ignored that she obviously is inclined to say that.

Even though I\'m happy with the gains in Flaccid length, looking back, I wouldn\'t have undergone the operation again if I turned the clock back three years.

I\'m sorry to hear about your lack of results with PE. Are you signed up to PE forums such as ThundersPlace and PEGym (esp. TP) and have to asked for any advice from the veterans?

Don\'t give up mate and may the gains be with you!

DanielH wrote:

hoddle10 wrote: It\'s a waste if time and money. You will gain some Flaccid length, but it\'s highly unlikely you\'ll gain anything Erect.

Have you ever seen a measured before and after Erect photo following lig cutting surgery? You can find hundreds for Girth procedures, but after over decade on surgical forums, I\'ve yet to see proof of a successful lig cutting surgery in terms of Erect gains. The reason is simple, which is it doesn\'t aid Erect gains, unless the patient has a genuine obstruction which is rare. If you\'ve been Hanging and stretching all this time and feel like the ligs are as stretched as possible, then what is the point of cutting them?

Since I had the PMMA, My Flaccid length looks great. Nevertheless, if after the surgery I will get an extra Flaccid length, it will be great.

It is true that Erect length is more important to me. I am cutting the ligament because I fill that they are too tight. Many years of trying to get something from stretching and none. Now it is the time for other action.

I am not asking if the surgery is good or not. I know what are the adventages and what are the disadventages. some people say that they managed to gain some Erect length so I decided to give it a try. My main problem is in choosing a reliable doctor and the way that he is performing the surgey (Through the pubic bone or through the scrotum)

There is zero evidence that Erect length gains come from stretching the ligaments.

hoddle10 wrote: It\'s a waste if time and money. You will gain some Flaccid length, but it\'s highly unlikely you\'ll gain anything Erect.

Have you ever seen a measured before and after Erect photo following lig cutting surgery? You can find hundreds for Girth procedures, but after over decade on surgical forums, I\'ve yet to see proof of a successful lig cutting surgery in terms of Erect gains. The reason is simple, which is it doesn\'t aid Erect gains, unless the patient has a genuine obstruction which is rare. If you\'ve been Hanging and stretching all this time and feel like the ligs are as stretched as possible, then what is the point of cutting them?

Since I had the PMMA, My Flaccid length looks great. Nevertheless, if after the surgery I will get an extra Flaccid length, it will be great.

It is true that Erect length is more important to me. I am cutting the ligament because I fill that they are too tight. Many years of trying to get something from stretching and none. Now it is the time for other action.

I am not asking if the surgery is good or not. I know what are the adventages and what are the disadventages. some people say that they managed to gain some Erect length so I decided to give it a try. My main problem is in choosing a reliable doctor and the way that he is performing the surgey (Through the pubic bone or through the scrotum)

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It\'s a waste if time and money. You will gain some Flaccid length, but it\'s highly unlikely you\'ll gain anything Erect.

Have you ever seen a measured before and after Erect photo following lig cutting surgery? You can find hundreds for Girth procedures, but after over decade on surgical forums, I\'ve yet to see proof of a successful lig cutting surgery in terms of Erect gains. The reason is simple, which is it doesn\'t aid Erect gains, unless the patient has a genuine obstruction which is rare. If you\'ve been Hanging and stretching all this time and feel like the ligs are as stretched as possible, then what is the point of cutting them?

I read Hunk Chunk thread and he is very pleased with his results. I also read KFH thread and I got the impression that he wasn\'t so satisfied.

I am not worrying from changing my Erect angle (I prefer to get my Erect downward because in this way I think the penis looks a bit longer).

I know that there is many ways to go through the scrotum and in this way the scar will be minimal. But if I will get more length by taking the surgery through the pubic bone, ths scar won\'t be so important (the hair will cover it).

I wasn\'t able to fine any articles that compare between the two methods.

Hi DanielH, welcome to PB.

HunkChunk had the Lig cut procedure at the brazil-clinic in Kaliningrad Russia and got a very good result. From what I understand the \"through the scrotum\" method seems to provide the best way with no long term scars. HunkChunk said that the clinic in Russia is world class with excellent facilities and doctors. He also reported no change in his Erection angle/quality. I think the Erection angle is greatly affected only when the basal penile ligament is cut.

If you go with Dr. Rosethal who does NOT go in via the scrotum, then I think you would most definitely end up with a scar in your pubic area.

Some members on here go to Dr. Ivana Nemeckova for PMMA who is in Prague. She takes a different approach to Dr. C but several members have reported good gains. I\'m not sure what experience she has with stretching devices, or whether she recommends one.

Hi Daniel, type penis enlargement surgery Dr viel into google. He has a Harley street clinic in London and also operates in Dubai. I have started a forum titled \'Dr Viel\'. There is a lot of articles on the clinic, but not good feedback from a couple of ex patients on the forum. I am trying to get a full range of opinions. We will see.