TOPIC: Metacrill Independent Lab Analysis - First quote is $1200

Restoration wrote: The request was:

1. Size of PMMA particles in 10% and 30% samples2. Sphericity of the PMMA particles vs jagged edged particles*3. Actual Percentage of PMMA particles in the samples labeled 10% and 30% (this does not have to be rigorously exact - if that would help the cost. Perhaps a range would be ok if that\'s easier?)4. Distribution of PMMA throughout the solution (clumped, grouped, or evenly distributed) *I am not sure if there needs to be a quantitative analysis of how spherical the particles are...or if that\'s even possible. It might make sense to answer # 2 with several photos. #4 might also be able to be answered with photos...if that\'s a cheaper way to go. Maybe 10 random photos of each sample would be sufficiently representative. Thanks again.

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Is anyone here interested in contributing to this? If so, we can talk about it. It\'s a lot of money, so perhaps I would need to send a non-anonymous email to a few of the veterans here w/ the company name & the quote so they can see this.

I will continue to ask other chemists, but most of the ones I know personally can\'t do it.

If it IS something we can crowd fund (I\'d be in for $100) - then the next step is to ask Dr. C if he would send a sample to them or if he would not. The cost of 1 mL is going to be fairly negligible...I would imagine. But, I don\'t know if he\'d want to get involved in case we uncover something. The upside is - we might find it to be perfectly normal.

Sylvester wrote: Yes, my passport was revoked so PMMA was not a option for me. The injections were expensive but I am happy with the results. I would NOT recommended it though as I found out silicone is not very safe researching after the fact. It was kind of an impulse decision. Like I said earlier Loria did not reveal the full ingredients and I was seduced by the desire to get bigger so my judgement was clouded. At least I did not end up with an Elist implant.

hoddle10 wrote: Your email will be ignored in my opinion. They almost certainly aren\'t licensed to distribute Metacrill and it\'s illegal to import into the US. So they can neither sell or send it.

jimmyjames wrote: How long ago did you email him? It seems like this would be more of a top priority. I\'m sure he doesn\'t have that many emails. I think if they avoid answering you, then we got our answer about the \'new\' PMMA and they probably switched to a cheaper alternative to boost margins. I\'m not accusing that but it\'s so strange how everyones gains are so low that it makes it difficult to be just a coincidence.

Restoration wrote: I emailed Wade a week ago about getting 1-2 CCs of Metacrill to the lab in the USA... didn\'t hear back yet...but I know he has a lot of emails, though. Hopefully, the request didn\'t come across wrong. I just don\'t want to go through it again & spend the money if the gains aren\'t there - and this is not a product we know much about. This was what I said -

I was wondering if you or Dr. C would be interested to have the Metacrill analyzed by a lab. It seems like a lot of guys are posting low gains (and my last round was 0-0.2\" gain from 17cc 30%) so I\'m wondering if something is different about the product. Even the doctor in Prauge has patients complaining of low gains. I wanted to come back for a third round of 30% (I am still under 5\" Girth) but it seems like guys aren\'t gaining much & I don\'t know if it\'s worth it with all the travel costs too. I know a lab that can test it for particle size, sphericity, and concentration, but I am not sure of the legalities of sending Metacrill to the USA. The Metacrill website says it will ship to the USA, but then it goes to a dead email address (and the price is $400 for 5 ccs - the lab only needs 1cc). It wouldn\'t even have to go to me - just straight to the lab. They will charge $1200 but I think some of the people on the board might fund it...that part is TBD. If the product is not possible to obtain in the usa (for nonmedical use), then it\'s not worth pursuing - but I wanted to ask. I really just wanted to figure out if something is up (and get above 5\"). Thanks.