TOPIC: Unintended Side Effects with Frequent Use of Forum

I should note that I am not assuming all members succumb to the ill & unintended side effects of this forum (or the PE scene in general), but that the chances someone becomes more & more obsessed with their penis increases every time they visit this site. I\'m sure there are some among us who are frequent users who don\'t have this problem, but I\'d venture to guess (as in I could be wrong) that would be a minority.

PhalloBoards, in my (biased) opinion, still represents the best resource for Phalloplasty on the web. It can still provide plenty of educational tools to make an informed decision and has members with incredible insight & experience. The ultimate purpose of PhalloBoards remains, and will always remain so long as it is running. That is why I coined the current environment on our forums an \"unintended side effect\". What has exacerbated this side effect is the advent of PMMA. Not blaming PMMA itself (obviously, my own life has changed positively from its enhancement), but never has the online Penis Enlargement scene witnessed a permanent method yield significant girths so readily and so cost-efficient.

This thread was put up as a \"public service announcement\" more than anything... kind of a \"please be mindful as you surf our forums,\" type posting.

hoddle10 wrote: If you aren\'t looking for commitment, then look in night clubs. You are actively looking in a place where you know you will be made to feel inadequate. You have to ask yourself why you are doing that. You are sub consciously actively seeking out places that will make you feel sexually inadequate and reinforce your insecurities.

A swinger site is far from the ideal place to get data about what women desire. Certain activities have certain expectations of them. Advertising on a swingers site and not requesting a big Cock, would be like arranging a cuckold session with a short fat man, who is hung like a mouse. Swinger sites are one of the few place women can actively satisfy their big Cock fetish. So you will get a abnormal amount of size queens there. Most women have no problems picking up men in bars etc, but they can\'t really judge their penis size that way. So swinger sites are ideal for them.

I agree with Hoddle here. Not passing judgment on your lifestyle decisions Pontest, but \"experienced women\" and \"swingers\" aren\'t mutually exclusive. If you wish to tread into a world of size queens and/or women accustomed to large phalli, you are inevitably reinforcing insecurities as Hoddle pointed out. Even with the current methods available to us, you may never be as big as some of the guys that circle the swingers scene, just food for thought.

But again, I\'m not criticizing you or passing judgment, just pointing out that your situation may be more unique than the average member here, and your goals & ambitions are rooted in something much more \"niche\" than the average member is probably accustomed to. This thread is addressing men who may have their penis obsessions worsened by the frequent use of this site.

site hasnt had that affect on me and in fact had the opposite ... its nice seeing other dudes with average size penis\'s or smaller then mine...i thought being 7 inches wasnt that big compared to porn or what i think girls \"MIGHT\" want but then coming here alot of you have even discouraged me from getting anything done which is refreshing seeing the honesty and even thought i will someday get the PMMA done its not that big of a deal to me anymore

also most of the stuff some of you posted about previous girls seem like there the ones with insecurity issues and problems since they cant be happy loving someone for a all around aspect and they just focus on one thing... Dick size...those kind of women are not the ones u want to end up with or bring home to mom anyways. Many of you on here with women or wives that have said they dont care about your size are the keepers....even though some of you still got it and they might like the bigger size there not fixated on only that in loving you...good women right there

idk i dont see this site the prob for people like kapitalizm but rather himself and if he cant handle the site and not let it control him then he prob shouldnt be on the site until he cant control his own insecurities or any one for that matter. its the same saying as \"guns dont people, people people\" .... same principal applies here.

also the site helps with many other areas of knowledge in PE and everything else as in doing things without surgery and trying ways of stretching and what not so its more helpful then hurtful

just sayn

@ Sizemic

Great post, all of you are making this a good conversation! This thread really ought to be in the \"Love, Lust, & Vanity\" section but I thought it was of high importance and it would get better visibility in this sub-forum.

Interesting take on the PMMA mental cycle, it\'s this kind of insight I hope many others get a chance to read!
You even acknowledged that it was possible this site has the potential to \"mess with your head.\" But on the same token, I bet you\'ve found a lot of answers about penis size, sex, etc as a consequence of being a member here too. I think the lesson here is balance.

dcpimpin12 wrote: I feel if anything at all this site should be advertised more on tv, news papers, radio ect.

Heaven forbid! lol. As I mentioned in our IM, the last thing we need is to encourage the idea that there is a need to visit a site that contains experimental medical procedures on enlarging what may be a perfectly normal penis to naive, impressionable young men on the TV & radio. Maybe years from now if & when procedures become more standardized it could get some air-time, but for now it\'s best that only those LOOKING for these kind of questions & answers find us.

Ignorance is bliss, and I think the many men who haven\'t thought twice about their size (irrespective of dimensions) & have enjoyed a healthy & fantastic sex life are maybe some of the luckiest men around.

@ Spankass

I hope and presume it has done more positive than good. If I believed/concluded with certainty that this forum\'s unintended ill effects were rampant and pervasive, I\'d literally consider shutting the forum down. But I don\'t and as I mentioned before, I know this forums fundamental purpose is still intact.

@ dcpimpin

I know the forum isn\'t liable for anyone\'s decision, but that doesn\'t mean it should turn a blind eye to an environment that may induce undesirable side effects. This thread wasn\'t really aimed at the guys comfortable & secure, but instead for newcomers who are predisposed to the unintended consequences of a forum that no longer considers 5.5\" EG all that thick.

I\'m glad we\'re having this discussion as a community. There are so many unseen factors that come along with wanting to get your penis enlarged through some surgical means, the kind of things I suspect are more often observed by Moderators and Forum Veterans. We get the IMs, PMs, and E-mails on a much more voluminous scale. What I mean by factors are things like psychology (state of mind / mental health), relationships, etc. Things that, in conjunction with this forum, can exacerbate underlying problems. The kind of problems we ought to prevent or minimize by bringing it to the attention of the community at large. Kapitalizm is the tip of the iceberg, there are others out there just like him, I wouldn\'t have made this thread if he was a lone, special case.

I had mental issues with sex, porn and PE long before coming here haha. BUT the danger here vs. Natural PE is that surgery / injections are quite invasive and very hard to reverse.

With manual PE (especially pumping to a big girth) I would enter this weird zone of arrousal, fantasy and euphoria. Naturally after I came and some time passed it would deflate and I would go back on with life with my normal dick. But I\'d always have to take steps like pumping to get to that fucked up state.

PMMA changes this process.

1) You see other member\'s results.
2) You fantasize that if you did it your results could be like theirs.
3) You get the procedure.
4) You are in this crazy arroused state of \"wow\" for a couple months until it just becomes the new norm.
5) Since the intial infatuation is gone from your procedure is gone, you want that feeling again and fantasize about how amazing a another round would be.
6) You think you are some special case and hope you can handle more product or get bigger gains or whatever it is you fantasize about.
7) You get another round.
The infatuation \"wow\" feeling is back.
9) see 5.
10) another round.... the cylce continues.

What we don\'t see is that this whole time our perception of what is normal is thrown out the window. We see other members posting about their giant schlongs and we get sucked right in. The real world is forgotten. We watch porn that only validates these new perceptions we have. This whole time, like pumping we inflate our dicks, only they don\'t deflate. We just keep building them up bigger and bigger, in this tunnell vision.

I\'ve used the steriod analogy before, but I still think its true: We push past what most people would think is normal in our weird mental state that we are in. MOST women would not find those big ass roided out guys to be attractive, but those guys obviously think they are by doing what they do.

So will this place mess with your head? - Yes it\'s likely.

I think there are different kinds of dysmorphia going on here.

There\'s the kind where people believe they are small or too small for their partner. Even when they are average size they have this negative perception about being average and it not being enough.

There\'s the kind who believe having a big dick will solve various problems and issues in their life. Whether its to add confidence, cure depression, machoism whatever.

There\'s the kind like me who get caught up in being huge. Beyond even what is normally considered huge. Its a turn on for them to be \"too big\".

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In all of these cases PMMA or any other PE surgery for that matter likely won\'t \"cure\" this dysmorphia. We need to figure out what is at the root of it, because a bigger dick won\'t solve it.

well i feel like whatever decision you make in life you have to stand by it. I mean I get that u dont want to influence others to rush into surgery or what not if they are already average but most people that come on here already made up their mind\'s and no matter what at the end of the day they are going to do what they are going to do. I feel if anything at all this site should be advertised more on tv, news papers, radio ect. I get that u guys dont want to give bad influence to the young adults but who ever is going or planning to go through surgery they will do it weather they find ur site or not. I mean is not cheap to have a procedure so if they have that much money they will end up doing it. I dont believe in hiding the sources. because i really do wish i found out about everything i know now years ago. If i started when i was 20 i would be so much better right now. I\'m actually mad about the fact that i didnt find out this sooner. and im sure there are more young people out there like my self that probably depress about their penis and dont know that there is help that there is a solution. if we can help those young people by sharing what we know. I dont think it is bad influence. Its just knowledge. who ever reads it and goes through with it is on them not the forum. this forum we just share our experience and our knowledge and where u go from there is upto u. I just wished i knew about this in my 20s i really do.

I completely understand where you are coming from with your concern and appreciate it.
At the same time there I think there is a difference between guys who look down and see \"small\" and those who would just desire to be bigger.
I know that I am not below average, but I would still like to have a little more size. It is more for personal satisfaction than anything else.

However, I can see where any site dealing with penile size (or porn, etc.) can definitely feed into underlying insecurities, warranted or not.

I do want to say that this site has come a long way from the launch of the first version and it\'s members never fail to be supportive of each other. Kudos on creating and cultivating such a great environment.

And on a further note, I hope I don\'t come off as bashing my own site, or implying that there aren\'t members who can\'t use this forum responsibly. But let\'s face it, if you are of a healthy, average, or above average endowment contemplating the idea of taking a knife or needle to your one & only penis with no guarantees of long term success, you might just be predisposed to the very things I touched on in the first post (i.e. dysmorphia). It\'s just important for each and every reader to understand this, assess their reasons for being here, and keeping a level-head as they navigate through our site.

Why do I consider this serious? Because I\'d like to take pride in the very forum I helped create, and I\'d hate to think it does more harm than good. Obviously, some things are out of my control and will always be out of my control, but that doesn\'t mean I can\'t offer sincere advice or help steer members away from things they really aren\'t prepared for. I still very much believe that this forum still serves its fundamental purpose of providing an outlet & resources for men who genuinely need it and I hope that the positives will always continue to outweigh any negative \"side effect.\" As I mentioned previously, this thread serves more as a \"public service announcement\" than anything else.

SpankAss wrote: site hasnt had that affect on me and in fact had the opposite ... its nice seeing other dudes with average size penis\'s or smaller then mine...i thought being 7 inches wasnt that big compared to porn or what i think girls \"MIGHT\" want but then coming here alot of you have even discouraged me from getting anything done which is refreshing seeing the honesty and even thought i will someday get the PMMA done its not that big of a deal to me anymore

also most of the stuff some of you posted about previous girls seem like there the ones with insecurity issues and problems since they cant be happy loving someone for a all around aspect and they just focus on one thing... Dick size...those kind of women are not the ones u want to end up with or bring home to mom anyways. Many of you on here with women or wives that have said they dont care about your size are the keepers....even though some of you still got it and they might like the bigger size there not fixated on only that in loving you...good women right there

idk i dont see this site the prob for people like kapitalizm but rather himself and if he cant handle the site and not let it control him then he prob shouldnt be on the site until he cant control his own insecurities or any one for that matter. its the same saying as \"guns dont people, people people\" .... same principal applies here.

also the site helps with many other areas of knowledge in PE and everything else as in doing things without surgery and trying ways of stretching and what not so its more helpful then hurtful

just sayn

And that\'s why I\'m using the term \"side effects.\" Just like medication, not everyone experiences the negative side effects that can come with taking dosages, but some do. Those who don\'t (like yourself) experience the site for all its worth, approach it with a level-head and learn when to \"retire\" when everything is said and done. There are others, however, who perceive/absorb/interpret the information obtained here to their detriment.

It\'s all about recognizing the problem. You, Spankass, have acknowledged responsible use and positive gain from this forum, so a thread like this wasn\'t really addressing you or men of your mindset. Members like Kapitalizm (and I assure you there are others), have acknowledged the issue, and it is in their best interest to reduce and/or discontinue forum usage for their own sake. Whether this site is at fault or not isn\'t really all that important, what is obvious is that this site can serve to exacerbate the problems for those who aren\'t mentally prepared to enter the world of online PE.

I had a chat with member \"kapitalizam,\" about the unfortunate side effects (for some, not all) of this forum. This forum started out as a small site and its intention was to be a place to discuss and exchange ideas on surgical penis enlargement. Fast forward 3 years later, it\'s a bustling message board, and I suspect many men are experiencing the same things \"kapitalizam\" is now reporting: dysmorphia, a distorted perception of ideal sizes, assumption that our partners prioritize size above most other attributes, etc etc etc.

I advised him a while back to lay off the forum (as well as laying off porn) and he\'s reported back success in regaining some sense concerning his penis obsession.

I recommend this to all our members. Unless you are progress reporting (this makes sense that you\'d be on frequently, daily or weekly, to keep us up to date), or unless you are involved in research & investigation (members contacting doctors and relaying their emails, finding articles on the web, etc), or Moderating - then I strongly recommend you visit this site at most once-a-week. I also highly recommend cutting back on porn consumption if this is a bad habit as well. These two in conjunction can greatly reduce the unintended ill-effects of the online PE scene.

Thanks for your understanding, I still hope this site continues to serve its fundamental role: providing an outlet for men who need it most.


-S.O.