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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275143169

Well I spoke at length with him this morning. He offered two options. The first was to remove the implant at no charge (he would charge my health care provider) then come back for a super pubic fat Removal. He claims the reason it\'s strange looking is because too much pressure from the fat in my lower abdomen is pushing the implant in and not down. I don\'t quite understand why first he didn\'t foresee this issue and second why my weight would have any incumbrence on the implant.
The second was to keep the implant and still do a abnoplasty to remove excess fat below my belly button.
I don\'t think I really need or want a lipo at all, maybe I\'ll just have it removed hen look into a PMMA option down the road as a filler.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275149409

Not sure if you have seen my thread, but if you want check it out.

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/The...MMA-and-then-5414806

elist will lie to you in every other word, so be very careful in what you believe. You are now in a state where you \"want\" to believe only the good stuff he promises you.

Good luck, and ask any questions. Message Man is one of the best moral supports re this issue.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275150170

Jesus brother, you had quite the journey. So, I will probably lose my erect length for good... Fuck me... As MM said, I need to get this fuckin dildo out of my pecker.

I think I\'ll go for one session of PMMA afterwards. As for now all I have it a stretcher similar to this item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=...ARCH&nid=70176172375 as well as a manual pump. Neither seem to work and neither can be used as an ADS. What should I use to attempt to regain my length after I get rid of this dildo?

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275150178

Wonder if I should pay to get rid of this super pubic fat as well as cut the ligament? I\'ve read horror stories about retraction with the ligament though...

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275151749

After my recon surgery in 09, Solomon recommended simply using the 1-lb Grip weight. It\'s like an ADS. I lost about 1.5 inches after that surgery, but after 2 months of using the 1-lb grip, I gained close to 2 inches (I think), based on eyeball measuring. The point is that according to Solomon, applying a continual stretch is the key to success (as opposed to heavy Hanging, etc), and I think there\'s studies that confirm that.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275157397

What would be the most effective ADS on the market now? Need to prepare for the upcoming Removal.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275158469

The 1-lb Grip works ok-it looks like a black condom. I\'ve been looking around as well to prepare for my surgery. The Circle Device looks like one of the best ones out there, but there\'s probably others. Please let me know if you find any comparable products.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275159479

Microphoncheck wrote: Well I spoke at length with him this morning. He offered two options. The first was to remove the implant at no charge (he would charge my health care provider) then come back for a super pubic fat Removal. He claims the reason it\'s strange looking is because too much pressure from the fat in my lower abdomen is pushing the implant in and not down. I don\'t quite understand why first he didn\'t foresee this issue and second why my weight would have any incumbrence on the implant.
The second was to keep the implant and still do a abnoplasty to remove excess fat below my belly button.
I don\'t think I really need or want a lipo at all, maybe I\'ll just have it removed hen look into a PMMA option down the road as a filler.



This is one of Dr. Elist\'s' favorite moves. If anything goes wrong with the implant, he blames the patient.'

One thing I think I should add...Though this man 'is sociopathic (IMO) , and though I did advise (previously) that you shouldn\'t let him do another procedure on you, it might be worth considering having him be the one to remove the implant. The reason I say this is because he\'s removed (by now) so many implants, he\'s probably getting very good at it. Other doctors will not have that experience.'

Mustang had a very decent outcome from his Removal with Dr. Elist...Minimal length loss and downtime.'

If you were to go down this road, make sure he takes it out in his surgicentre and not his clinic. Be very assertive and clear about how you don\'t want any length loss and would like to retain the added Girth of the capsule.'

And again...Make sure he knows that you are reporting all this on the Internet on various sites. Write down what he says (in front of him) . This will at least give the appearance that you are not a push-over, that you are organized. and that you mean business.'

And regarding insurance. I hear from other guys on the forum who 'have had their insurance companies billed 'by Dr. Elist that apparently he submits ridiculous charges to these companies for this relatively minor procedure...One of our members I recall mentioned something like $28, 000. I personally wouldn\'t want my insurance company involved. The less paper trail the better...And Dr. Elist is responsible. Never cut him slack or he will interpret it as a sign of weakness.

Hoddle\'s advice about not acting too rashly is a good one. Assess your situation (implant, emotional, financial, time available, etc) thoroughly, explore the options available thoroughly, and then act.
Best of luck, MM

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275159622

You make him sound so evil! Good ole Hanlon\'s Razor - Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Haha

Wait, who\'s dumber: the man or the one who lets this man mutilate the others manhood? Dang it!

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275160250

Microphoncheck wrote: You make him sound so evil! Good ole Hanlon\'s Razor - Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Haha

Wait, who\'s dumber: the man or the one who lets this man mutilate the others manhood? Dang it!


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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275337151

Microphoncheck wrote: You make him sound so evil! Good ole Hanlon\'s Razor - Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Haha Wait, who\'s dumber: the man or the one who lets this man mutilate the others manhood? Dang it!


Hi microphoncheck. I had the implant in 2010 and when this became infected had it removed and replaced with the supposed \'softer version\' for an extra $5000 - which I now know does not exist. Then I had it removed altogether. The man is a conman. Send me a private mesage and I will tell you what I know and what I think you should do.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1275390639

Microphon^ I can totally relate to your apprehension! I went through a lot of soul searching and anxiety after I was duped into it also. Let me tell you the good news though, after the initial hell from getting your body used to having such a traumatic process done to the most sensitive area of it,things can , with some luck, get mostly back to normal. I am going through the long healing process aftre getting the thing removed a week ago. If it\'s not a good time in your life to get it removed I would wait, it\'s too much to have that to go thru on top of any other stress ( like who ever has no stress going on) but wait until you have a good couple weeks to spend mainly concentrateon recouperating. I have a thread with more details on the progress threads area.
Yes you will need a drainage bag after the Removal and don\'t get it taken out too soon like I did. the proplem is what the hell do you believe from the good Dr? you never know if his advice is really the best for you ...... or him? I know it\'s hard mpc but hang tough and keep the faith, you can get through this and the great support from this site helps a lot. you can also PM me with any concerns, good luck man

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1295235828

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It would be more appropriate if you shared your experience so others can learn from it. Simply bashing the doctor for the sake of bashing him is not what this forum is about. He\'s already earned whatever reputation he has through first-hand accounts, backed up credibly with photos, etc. You can follow suit, otherwise I\'m advising you no longer post in this fashion.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1295235844

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Microphoncheck wrote: Hi all, I posted the same on the same username on another forum thinking that was the site i had been to but it is in fact this one: I\'ve been readin these boards for the past couple weeks and wish I had found them sooner. January of this year I received the Elist implant (he no longer performs the lengthening but assured me the length would increase due to the weight of the implant). Well, the first month after surgery was incredibly rough. I\'m not sure if I had a UTI but I was peeing pink and passing blood clots every 10-15 minutes for the first two weeks. I received te implant shortly after my wife of nearly 20 years divorced me. Now, in hindsight I wish I had given it more thought and research before I jumped on board the Elist disaster train. Now, 8 months later and I still have some pain when fully Erect (although \"fully\" doesn\'t quite get there). I used to be 5\" diameter and 5.5 length. Now my pyramid shaped penis is 4\" in length and nearly 8 at the base sliming down to 5\" at the head. Not only this but the implant has bumps and makes my penis look unnatural. I\'m very concerned and have passed the opportunity to have sex on numerous occasions because of my embarrassment... What should I do? I\'ve put in yet another call to his office to call me back, no word yet and I\'ll reply with what he says. I\'m very worried and have a limited time to take care of this before I start my new job in a month.

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Dr. Elist woes 13 years 9 months ago #1295235853

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