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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272141524

astroman wrote: This site has done a lot to convince me that women prefer above average penis girth (within reason of course): www.penissizedebate.com/contents.htm

Vaginal stimulation from penis length: www.penissizedebate.com/page18_penis-length.htm

Vaginal stimulation from penis girth: www.penissizedebate.com/page19_penis-girth.htm

This site may adequately explain how length or girth stimulates the anatomical structures of the inner & outer vagina, but it pretty much stops right there.
The rest of the site somehow subscribes to the idea that masculinity and penis size are central to one another, and that a man with a larger penis is somehow superior genetically (when this does not take into account a man\'s health & intelligence, and other genetic factors). Then they cite a graph showing that 7x6.5\'s+ are ideal (pictured below), but women must really have it rough considering how incredibly rare these types of dongs are. Ludicrous to say the least. I\'d strongly recommend disregarding the site altogether with the exception of the pages that pertain to female & male anatomy.
www.penissizedebate.com/images/doc/penis...rence_chart1.gifThey spew this bullshit so they can get advertises like bigcocks(d0t)com. Apparently a 6x4.5 (incredibly average) is deemed completely unsatisfying by this chart. The idea is you click on the big cock porn sites so that you\'ll inevitably feel compelled to buy the big cock pills. Fucking industry makes me sick!

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272142815

I do not think that comparing porn star women to regular women is a good idea. The porn women have had so many dicks they will for sure like a bigger penises.

Regular women do like a bigger Girth, to a certain extent. The best test would be to have sex with a certain women, note her reaction, have a Girth increase, then have sex with the SAME woman, note her reaction and then compare. I have done exactly that ( I can only tell you MY own findings, make up your own mind) and I have found that two women absolutely loved my new found Girth. The length was never an issue at about 5.75\" Erect, it seems, for me, to be good length for women with and without children. Every woman with children, loved the extra Girth and never complained. Women with NO children either liked the new Girth or mildly complained about it being too big.

My own findings are that women with children will have larger vaginas AND they loos some sensitivity after birth. As a result more penis Girth is needed.

Add to all this shit, is the social pressure of our fucked up society...We all have watched/heard women positively comment on big penis size. This alone had caused many men, including me, to seek larger penis.

5.5\" Erect is the average American penis length by 4.8\" Erect Girth (I may be off by fraction of an Inch) but you get the idea.

Good luck to the poster in his decision!

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272144025

eqstudent wrote: An anecdotal example, if larger Girth above the average size gave women greater pleasure, your most successful porn starlet would be requesting the largest guys to work with. In fact the opposite is true; the bigger guys don't get as many calls to work with the top starlets! Remember in professional porn the women get to control who they work with. I would suggest that anyone interested in finding out what women want from a size perspective ask women on women's sites, don't ask guys on PE sites!

lol wait whut.....? Basing your opinion on what satisfies a woman off porn stars and the reaction/amount of requests they get from girls. Sounds like bro science to me. Your logic is weak. Opinions are like assholes brah, we all have em. However your opinion on what satisfies a woman should have nothing to do with a persons decision to enhance themselves in any way. Why are we even wrapped up in this psycho-babble internet therapy? We all have issues in some form or another, it\'s just in our nature. We all have our reasons for being here, I don\'t honestly care if yours differs from mine, or if john smith\'s differs from mine. We\'re all after the same result right, otherwise we wouldn\'t be here. I didn\'t realize we were all licensed psychiatrists now. Now don\'t get your panties twisted, I\'m not trying to start drama so don\'t cry or get keyboard muscles. I think you just need to take a minute to think before you type replies to this man\'s questions. /thread

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272145417

OK, I can\'t resist...
Firstly, I have to say eqstudent\'s post are a valuable asset to to the site and a much needed counterbalance for some of us who are so gung ho on getting that megaschlong, we fail to endeavor to understand the underlying reasons why we are getting the enhancement, and whether or not the enhancement itself will add to the physical pleasure of our lovers.That being said eqstudent, your assertion that all the logs that flat out say that the enhancements have increased the pleasure of intercourse (for the women) are flawed because these men are projecting their own belief that size matters into the equation is silly...And I hate to break it to you...denial. Don\'t you think we get feedback from the women involved? Not only do the women state how great sex is verbally, but they also indicate it through, movement, sound, and orgasms...We are an intelligent bunch here and can draw truthful conclusions.

You apparently get your evidence that size doesn\'t matter off Internet studies, women\'s published opinions on the matter, and your own \"dildo\" experiments. Do you really think these sources are more credible? Don\'t you think it\'s possible that women may lie in order to make their man feel better? Or might fib in front of their friends for appearance sake?
I\'ll let your reference to porn stars not wanting to work with big penises slide....But you get my point, right?
Are these sources so much better than accounts from men (such as myself) that have had both a modest and large endowment, and can candidly and 100% honestly report their anecdotal findings on which size is better?

Again, please don\'t get me wrong. I value your participation greatly on this site, and wish you to continue doing so...I\'ve actually held back for months now on my opinion because I didn\'t want to stir up this hornets\' nest...And I certainly don\'t want to heighten any insecurities men might have about penis size...But at the end of the day, this site is about honesty..
Truth lives....
We owe that much to each other....
Messageman

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272145738

I would have to chime in here and say that at least for me and my wife, sex has become much more pleasureable for us since I did the PMMA Girth enhancement. We have two kids and my wife is definitely not the same since the birth of our children. I am a \"noob\" to PMMA as I have only done one round to date, but at least for me, it has made an incredible difference in my sex life when I compare pre-kids to post kids. I started out on the low end of average and never wish to go back. I have spent many years and a lot of money in my quest for a slightly above average penis. I have pumped, stretched and taken the useless pills over the years in my personal quest. If you are not happy with the size of your penis overall, I understand. If you are happy with what you have, then go on with your life. PMMA or any other procedure has risks, period. If you are willing to accept those risks, then I wish you well. I think that is what this site is all about. I very well might end up regretting the PMMA route someday, but for now it is the best option for me and what I want out of life. I am willing to take that risk and will live with the consequences if they happen.

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272146225

Messageman, I wont disagree with the contributions of any member here, as an informational post, regardless of how it\'s structured or what logic is behind it is just that, informational. However, I don\'t see the point in psycho-analyzing members (what eqstudent appears to be doing) who are here for their own personal reasons, whether it\'s to satisfy a partner, or whatever the case may be.

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272148289

messageman wrote: I\'ll let your reference to porn stars not wanting to work with big penises slide....But you get my point, right?

MM I am disappointed. I thought at the very least you would be sophisticated enough to get my sarcastic reference to using anecdotal data as fact. Back to the member's question:

justwondering410 wrote: She likes my size, but she is also fairly petite so maybe it\'s just right for her. Sometimes she begs for it, even if I\'m not in the mood, so I have no reason to believe she is dissatisfied' I am having some anxiety about my size. I figure that since I have only had sex with one girl, I don\'t really have enough data to know whether my Dick is going to be satisfactory to most women.

I remember posting on the old site that for average sized men with size insecurities getting on a PE site is the worst possible thing they could do. SO said he hoped this site did not do that, well... If people on this site really believe that a man with an average size penis can't satisfy a woman that is really sad. At his size and based on current data he is within the range of almost 58% of men on this planet. Are you guys really saying that more than half the men on this planet have dicks that can't satisfy a woman? Wow talk about dysfunctional thinking. PS: the average vagina is 1\" diameter and grows to 1.5\" diameter when aroused. You guys need to do the math.

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272148787

eqstudent wrote:

messageman wrote: I\'ll let your reference to porn stars not wanting to work with big penises slide....But you get my point, right?

MM I am disappointed. I thought at the very least you would be sophisticated enough to get my sarcastic reference to using anecdotal data as fact. EQIt would be appreciated that you might 'dumbdown' your highbrow humor for the sake of simpletons like myself; we can't all be as sophisticated as you'.

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272149023

messageman wrote: It would be appreciated that you might 'dumbdown' your highbrow humor for the sake of simpletons like myself; we can't all be as sophisticated as you'.

So I am \"in denial\" and now \"highbrow\" and you are \"unsophisticated\" because I have a difference of opinion about the benefits to a woman of a penis above average size. Should we ratchet the insults up a notch this round. Is it my turn?

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272149254

eqstudent wrote: Are you guys really saying that more than half the men on this planet have dicks that can't satisfy a woman? Wow talk about dysfunctional thinking.

To be fair, I believe many of the guys here aren\'t saying that average sizes can\'t please a woman, but that an above-average size does a better job at pleasing than an average one (again, I\'m not sure anyone has implied that an average unit is not adequate) - that\'s how the argument appears to me at least.
@Everyone on this thread
Lets move away from the bickering and resume the topic matter(s) at hand please. I think there is a misunderstanding between parties, and we need to be able to engage in a healthy debate without crossing lines. Hope this is all the reminder I need give.

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272149283

We are all entitled to our own opinions and I respect yours eqstudent though I do not completely agree. I\'ve been told that most porn stars do not prefer huge men due to the length of the penis; not the Girth. I also would agree with you that sometimes having a large Girth can be problematic and that women will not always prefer a larger Girth. I think that we can agree to disagree and still maintain respectful dialogue.

There is no call for insults by anyone. I have no desire to argue the point. I also do not wish for anyone to feel insulted or \"less valued\" based on their viewpoint. I would like to ask that anyone participating/contributing to this thread maintain respect for one another; both Moderators and Members alike. It is easy for debates to become heated and emotions run high when one attempts to defend/support his position. Nothing is worth having one\'s feeling hurt. Please \"ratchet\" down the dispute. Insults will not be tolerated are not going to help justwondering410.

With respect to all,

M7

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272149909

eqstudent wrote:

messageman wrote: I\'ll let your reference to porn stars not wanting to work with big penises slide....But you get my point, right?

MM I am disappointed. I thought at the very least you would be sophisticated enough to get my sarcastic reference to using anecdotal data as fact. MM says:EQIt would be appreciated that you might 'dumbdown' your lofty highbrow humor for the sake of simpletons like myself'We all can't be as sophisticated as you'. Back to the member's question:

justwondering410 wrote: She likes my size, but she is also fairly petite so maybe it\'s just right for her. Sometimes she begs for it, even if I\'m not in the mood, so I have no reason to believe she is dissatisfied' I am having some anxiety about my size. I figure that since I have only had sex with one girl, I don\'t really have enough data to know whether my Dick is going to be satisfactory to most women.

I remember posting on the old site that for average sized men with size insecurities getting on a PE site is the worst possible thing they could do. SO said he hoped this site did not do that, well... MM says:This purpose of this site is not to act as a support group for people with 'size insecurities' eqstudent. Rather, this site was created as a means for men to gather information and be proactive in the pursuit of tackling the issue of enlarging their penises. Transparency and honesty are valued over political correctness and wishful thinking If people on this site really believe that a man with an average size penis can't satisfy a woman that is really sad. At his size and based on current data he is within the range of almost 58% of men on this planet. MM says:At risk of flogging a dead horse, we, or at least I am not saying this''Average' is fine...but it's been in my experience, women generally appreciate a larger than average penis. That doesn't mean to say that an 'average' penis size isn't satisfying though. Let me put it into my 'unsophisticated' analogy. When I was younger, I had VW Beetle that got me from point A to B, and I loved it. It did its job well and I had few problems with it. Now I drive an Audi. Not only does this car get me from A to B but it also gives me a smoother, 'enhanced' driving experience. If I had to choose between driving the VW or the Audi, I would choose the Audi hands down' Are you guys really saying that more than half the men on this planet have dicks that can't satisfy a woman? Wow talk about dysfunctional thinking.MM says:Please read above. PS: the average vagina is 1\" diameter and grows to 1.5\" diameter when aroused. You guys need to do the math.

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272150531

MM ' I stand by my response to the question 'I don\'t really have enough data to know whether my Dick is going to be satisfactory to most women'. Clearly I believe it is going to be satisfactory to most women. You have taken exception to my opinion and believe that bigger would be better. I would like to think there is room on this site for both opinions. I am not sure what your point is in stating your opinion on the purpose of this site but it seems pretty clear that your opinion is one of 'transparency and honesty' and my opinion is that of 'political correctness and wishful thinking'.In fact after reading your post clearly my opinion is incorrect for this site. Here is my new opinion: Justwondering410- in response to your question 'whether your Dick is going to be satisfactory to most women', you definitely need to make it bigger. The bigger you make it the better it will be. Now once you make it bigger you will sleep with the next woman and just like your first she will tell you she likes it and will sometimes BEG for it even if you are not in the mood. Do not believe her! Go and make it even bigger, the bigger you make it the better it will be. Keep going'

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272151165

There is no doubt that our western society teaches us subconsciously that \"bigger is better\". Bigger car, houses, salaries, Penises, tits....etc... One exception; all men like Smaller pussies

That \"IS\" partially why women tell us they like it bigger, and our manhood gets hurt if our penises are not big and rightfully so.

But, scientifically speaking and from what I have read on line, a woman enjoys her vagina being stretched during sex due to Girth (of course to a certain extent) and this Girth stimulates the sexual nerve endings inside a woman. So, there is a truth to the fact that most women will enjoy a girthy Dick (is there such a word? ) but again, read carefully, women will enjoy extra Girth to a certain extent. I do not know what the magical Girth number is before a woman starts to feel pain. I know most smaller Asian women will hurt around 5.5\" and above.

In the western world, women generally speaking will accommodate larger penises due to their bigger build....

There is no question in my mind that when I see my bigger Dick, it gives me a great feeling, do I really need it, may be not! but is makes ME feel good and that is good enough for me!

Live long, fuck a lot and prosper!

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Unresolved Pre-PMMA Questions & Concerns - Please answer! 14 years 5 months ago #1272156069

Wow guys, just catching up with the conversation (nay, debate) that has ensued here. I appreciate everyone\'s willingness to spend time responding to my thread, but if you go back to the original post, there are some legitimate questions that I\'ve only gotten one or two good answers to (thanks M7 and SO) and would love to get a few more responses to take into consideration. I\'m in LA so getting the procedure done would not be a problem for me... just looking for some of my concerns to be answered by people with PMMA experience.

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